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Okay guys, all this Father Killian Jones talk made me download “The Rite” and start to watch it again. Oh my word. That man is just so young and adorable and innocent looking in that movie I just want to squeeze him!!
Sadly, the side effect of the movie is that I have never before until this moment actually felt like a “cougar.” He would be worth it.
[adrotate group="5"]Um, I believe I am a fan of OQ. That was on the upper end of hot.
Where do A and E find all these beautiful men??? And will they let me visit???
I can’t remember if I read it here or on tumblr somewhere:
Hook isn’t lying about anything, he just doesn’t want Emma to know he spent 364 days crying on the deck of the Jolly Roger singing “All By Myself” before he could pull himself together to go get her.
I watched the Quiet Minds promo again and I am sticking with my original theory.
I think at least part of Hook’s secret is that he is “working” with Neal. I still think Neal has “become” the Dark One. I know Rumple’s name is still on the dagger but after watching the promo again here’s what I think happened. I think Neal decided to go ahead and use Dark Magic to get Rumple back. He and Belle were working together. Something went very wrong and it looks like when they got Rumple back his Dark One powers were transferred to Neal (all magic comes with a price). But I don’t think Neal is affected by the Dark One powers the same way Rumple was, or maybe Rumple and Neal are BOTH somehow affected by the Dark One power now. But Neal is aware that he made a mistake by using Dark Magic. He has moments were he is himself and moments when he isn’t. Either Belle ran away from him or he sent her away. Either Neal sent for Hook to get Emma or Belle did but Neal, Belle, and Hook were all aware of what happened while they were in the EF – that Rumple was back and that Neal was turned dark. I am still really thinking it is Neal who contacted Hook though and told him to get Emma and Henry but to keep them away from him because he is dangerous. I think Hook may have even known the curse was coming (because he couldn’t have stopped it) and was told to make sure Belle would be caught in the new curse because Neal didn’t want her to know thst she was involved with something Dark and that he turned Dark and that Rumple is back but all messed up. Or Rumple is NOT messed up and is aware that Neal is now the Dark One but is just pretending to still be controlled by the dagger to protect Neal. If Neal is not affected by the Dark One curse the same way Rumple was but had it affect him because he brought Rumple back using Dark Magic that means the rules of the Dark One dagger don’t apply and Neal can be killed. I am wondering if Emma actually kills Neal. If Neal goes after Henry or comes after her she would shot him. Or I could see them having Rumple kill Neal if he was trying to hurt Henry or Emma. It would be an interesting twist on the death. It would make it easier because they would HAVE to kill him if it was self defense. So that way there wouldn’t be as much guilt involved and it would be easier to deal with the whole “Neal died before Henry got his memories back” issue. Would you really want Henry to have memories of zombie attack Neal??? Of Emma kills him it would also be significant – she would be both literally and figuratively killing off the last thing that has been holding her back from moving on with her life. I think this also explains why Hook doesn’t want to tell Emma what he was up to – he is afraid that Emma will be heartbroken that Neal is now Dark – another guy who has once again let her down again, and Henry’s father can’t be there. Plus it could explain his concern at the storm cellar. What if Dark One Neal is there? Emma sees him, he seems normal, she frees him, then he turns on them and kills them.
Haha, I totally didnt even pick up on this either – Hook cuing Charming
I know!! I saw this on Captain Eala’s Tumblr and died!! Don’t know how I missed it but I think it might be the single cutest Hookism ever!!
Thanks for the pretties @obisgirl. Anyone up for a nice glass of merlot? I’m having one and feel so much better.
@callmeLola You read my mind!! But you are much classier! I just told my husband I have a craving for chicken wings and Pinot Grigio and told him to take me out!
Honestly, I need to not let this stuff get me so worked up! But it’s so much fun!
Sometimes I honestly wonder if we are watching the same show as the haters. Like people are pointing out – you have to follow the logic of the show. If something if important to the characters and the show, they will address it – if it isn’t, they won’t. I feel like we sit in our happy little thread and discuss the stuff that is actually happening on the show – the actual scenes that are being shown on the screen, the actual dialogue that is being spoken. But then other people start talking about all this other stuff and I am literally like “Where on earth did you get that from???” They play the CS theme song in the background during Sunday’s CS moment – a key indicator that it was MEANT to be a romantic moment but haters are talking about Hook was just lying to her and he isn’t fooling Emma and he was being so rude to her but she didn’t put up with up with and stood up for herself and walked away. Huh?? What the heck show were those people watching?????
And I’m so sorry but continuing to talk about how much Emma and Neal love each other and how much of a beautiful relationship they had together in the past?? How much more can this show possibly do to show that Emma has been nothing but emotionally damaged by her relationship with Neal – they have even acknowledged that the only good thing that came out of their past relationship was Henry!!
People keep talking about how Emma is so concerned about Neal and coming up with all of these theories about how they are going to end up together. I am entirely confused. I have seen Emma ask where Neal is in a concerned about her baby daddy kind of way but other than that – he doesn’t even appear to cross her mind. And I have no idea where anyone is getting any kind of theory of Emma and Neal ending up together. Honestly even if I am shocked beyond belief and they end up killing Hook off this season – I think there is a better chance of Emma ending up with Leroy or Tiny than with Neal.
But I agree, I am completely DONE with all of this “Oh, it’s so obvious Hook is totally working for the WW.” The people who love Neal talk about how it would be terrible story telling to kill off Neal. I disagree. You know what would be bad storytelling – they call it beating a dead horse – let’s have yet ANOTHER guy that Emma thought she could trust turn out to bite her in the butt. How’s THAT for bad storytelling? So which of these scenarios makes more sense? Kill off Neal and NOTHING changes on the show at all – Henry doesn’t even currently realize he has met his father, Emma has already had to deal with his “death” once before and has said she wishes he was dead, we have already closed the Rumple searching for Bae arc. OR Continue on with the SAME OLD dried up storyline of Emma not bring able to trust any of the men in her life that she gets close to so she continues to refuse to let her walls down.
Uuuggghhhh!!!!
As far as the title for the finale . . .
I was also pretty sure that was going to be the title but after thinking about it for quite some time I don’t think the episode is going to have anything to do with a physical location. I think they have been pretty clear that they are trying to show that “home” isn’t a place but is made of the people you love. So I would be surprised if they suddenly shifted from that central theme in the finale and suddenly made home about a physical location. I actually think this is going to be the CS wedding episode where Emma GETS the home she always wanted – literally GETS the home, GETS Hook, as in GETS to keep him – he becomes HERS forever. We might even have the TLK in the same episode. Although it seems strange to think that they could move that quickly from the TLK to their wedding I can see them doing it. If you think about the Wizard of Oz movie Dorothy was bound and determined to run away – she goes through all this heavy crap with her new found buddies, kills the WWW, becomes the heroine of Oz, then BOOM realizes that she never should have taken off in the first place and in the next breath is telling Auntie Em there is no place like home. After ALL THAT she decides that what she was looking for was right in her own backyard. We JUST had Emma tell Hook that of course she was considering marrying Monkey Man – she was in love. So if we follow post false memory logic Emma – when Emma realizes she is in love with Hook (who is thankfully human) AND she realizes that he has been her home all along – how long do you think it is going to take her to decide to marry him??? And I’m guessing Emma is gonna figure all that out with a TLK with which Hook can breathe a giant sigh of relief that she DID actually feel the same way he did after all. And knowing that when Emma was in love with flying monkey she seriously considered marrying it, how long do you think it is going to take Hook to ask her to marry him – considering that he has mentioned Emma’s potential monkey marriage in every episode so far???? Poor Killian has Emma and marriage burned into his brain right now and it doesn’t appear that will be changing any time soon. As soon as that man sees that Emma loves him and realizes that he is her home, it’s done – he’s proposing to her.
Don’t panic. We also had promo pics last week of Regina giving Henry the book at Granny’s and nothing even remotely close to that happened in the episode.
For all we know this could be a scene that never makes it into the show. Or it could be Emma being comforted by her mother at the very beginning of the episode because she still hasn’t heard any news of Neal.
I trust nothing I see or hear anymore, whether from official or unofficial sources, including A and E themselves. The only thing I trust is the show AFTER I have watched it.
*CS Shipper attempting to prevent SF Shippers from having to medicate themselves unnecesarily*
Okay, so I keep reading all this stuff saying how it was so terrible that Hook told Emma that he was “glad” she got her heart broken because it means it still works. I don’t understand this. I must be too old and have too much life experience – oh, and be too busy raising a child whom I realize needs to experience things like disappointment, pain, and unhappiness at some points during his life in order to fully appreciate the full life experience – to understand this line of thinking.
Isn’t this EXACTLY what Snow was talking about in 3×12 when she told Regina she couldn’t bury her heart? That the ONLY way she was going to learn to find happiness again was to keep her heart – even though it was currently causing her nothing but pain? Because if she buried her heart not only would she never feel heartache again but she would never feel love or happiness again either. And everyone thought THAT moment was such a SWEET BONDING moment between Regina and Snow. But the same moment between Hook and Emma is NOT special?? I’m sorry but it has been the most intimate moment between the two them on the show so far, including the kiss.
And did no one catch what Hook said first?? “Don’t take this the wrong way . . .” In other words -I’m not happy you are in pain, I am happy that your ability to FEEL pain is proof that your heart works. Let’s face it, even Emma wasn’t sure her heart had the ability to love in the way it needed to in order to be in a relationship prior to her year of false memories. Hook is INCREDIBLY insightful when it comes to Emma – in fact he’s the only person that can render her speechless. And he knows EXACTLY what she needs to hear regardless of whether she wants to hear it or not (he knows her better than she knows herself). She needed to know that the monkey man is NOT another reason to throw her walls back up again (well, primarily because he was a monkey – so he just wasn’t even worth it, but I digress) because what happened with that situation, though painful, was actually GOOD for her. And because Hook loves Emma, yes – he is GLAD that she has experienced something that should cause her to recognize that she has the ability to have an actual loving relationship. And no, it is NOT just because he WANTS her, it’s because he CARES about her.
It’s just like with my son – I am quite sure he is going to have some painful romantic relationships over the course of his life before he finds “the one.” Do I want him to be in pain? No. Do I recognize that pain is a way we LEARN in life? YES!! And if having some painful relationships ends up teaching him some things that he needs to learn about himself and the kind of woman he DOESN’T want to end up with so that he can find his own true love – bring on the pain!!!
