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KeymasterI think we are overthinking this. I loved this twist but breaking the curse is easy. If they get rid of the EQ, whatever she has done will be broken. They have used that logic before and it just seems too easy. Because other than that, I cannot think of a way they can get around this curse.
But getting rid of the EQ is proving tricky since apparently the only way to kill her is by killing Regina. They still haven’t brought up the idea of reintegration for some odd reason.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterCurious to see Maeve’s story play out. The way they subtly hinted at how she kept dying on purpose to meet the “shades” is interesting.
Not so subtly hinted at in this episode, eh?
1×06 “The Adversary” thoughts!
–What a fantastic episode. I’m not quite sure what to make of the political machinations going on with the Park workers or even speculating why Therese/someone else is broadcasting new commands to the first generation Hosts but there’s enough to dissect with Maeve and the ongoing Ford/Arnold storyline.
–Beginning with Maeve, there were so many enjoyable (if that’s the right word) moments, like watching her wander the hallways behind the scenes, seeing moments of her life suddenly stripped away to their bare components. It’s like…Alice going through the looking glass and instead of finding wonder, finding reality. The park itself is Wonderland, this is the “real” (that word is problematic in this show…) world and it’s not as glamerous. It’s figures being carved by hand and artificial blood being pumped into blanks to give the appearance of life. Is it anyone wonder that Maeve wants to change her own “code base” so that she is more perceptive? Speaking of, it struck me that while talk of “code base” is awfully mechanic, there’s a human factor to it as well. Humans–the born kind–can do this to. We can’t punch a screen and change our personality, but we educate ourselves, we interact with people of different backgrounds and experiences, we (and this sounds really cliche) live in order to change our own base lines. How do I become more perceptive–by opening my eyes and seeing the world. How do I enhance my intelligence–by going to school, reading, and having conversations.
–I also really loved the scene in which Maeve saw her program play out before her eyes and she froze up. I half expected them to CTL/ALT/Delete her to reboot her program. There are moments in which the show goes to some length to remind us that these machines aren’t human, that there’s more separating us from them than processing power. I think it’s why they keep Maeve naked for 99.9% of this episode. Having her stripped down and unconcerned with that for long periods of time reminds us that she’s a machine; it’s why putting her in clothing when she goes on a tour of the plant help sell the horror of her seeing reality. She’s not just a machine at that point, she feels more real. Not a coincidence it’s also when Maeve sees her daughter and her in a sizzle reel for Westworld–speaking of, did anyone else think that sizzle real was false advertising. It was romanticizing what goes on in Westworld. You have the cowboys and the great outdoors and an interesting little town complete with saloons, but it failed to show what “life without limits” really means–like lots of bloodshed and violence and people acting out their basest of desires.
–Moving on to Dr. Ford–well, okay then! Little creepy boy is actually Dr. Ford! Created by Arnold! Looking back, the boy and Dr. Ford are dressed eerily similar so maybe we should have seen it coming. But I think the point of this little exercise was showing the difference, again between Dr Ford and Arnold. It sounded like Ford made some upgrades to his “family”–to make them more like how he remembered them and how they really were (like his dad) whereas Arnold wanted them to be more like they could have been. Pragmatism vs romanticism. But what does this mean for Dr Ford’s plans right now? We got a look at the lay out of his new narrative and it doesn’t look like anything groundbreaking; there’s a church (which we saw a bit of a few episodes ago) but what’s his goal with this new narrative? I can’t help but feel that most of Dr. Ford’s motivations are about an ongoing conversation with a dead man “you think the park should be like this, but I think it should be like THIS and I’ll prove it to you, even if you are dead!” The fact that Arnold built Dr Ford a family (a kinder version at that) speaks to the level of friendship between the two, they weren’t just business partners and I get a sense that these two would always keep the other in mind with whatever they did. Actually, did anyone else watch Fringe? Arnold and Dr Ford remind me quite a bit of Walter Bishop and William Bell. Brilliant scientists, great friends, but with some philosophical differences that don’t necessarily cause a split in affection, but yield great conversations and even greater work.
–Finally we get the Native belief of the Maze and the Adversary who resides in the center. Anyone else reminded of the Minotaur/Theseus? But more than that, while Teddy speaks of the story as a myth, it’s heavily couched in metaphorical language, something that Arnold was trying to instill in his hosts (or maybe it was Dr. Ford…?). The maze is less literal and more an ongoing journey for any living body, trying to find their way to selfhood, pitfalls along the way (including self-death and self-rebirth). And if they do manage to become self-actualized, no one else can disturb them because they’ve constructed a “maze” of identity that no one can bypass. I dunno, the fact that the symbol for the maze is etched everywhere (including in Dr. Ford’s notebook) makes me believe that there’s a literal maze, but the way the maze is talked about makes me believe it can’t possibly be literal!
Other thoughts:
–I don’t particularly care about Lee and his tortured artists shtick.
–So why exactly employees of the park (some of them) broadcasting a “bicameral mind” to the first generations Hosts? And who grabbed Elise?
–“You don’t have a choice. Even if you say no, it’s part of your character.”
–I like that the further you get from the central town, the more hazardous the game gets.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterRatings news is in for episode 6×07 “Heartless” Demo: 1.1 Live Eyeballs: 3.53 million This is a .2 increase from last week.
I didn’t expect that much of an increase; given how positively everyone is reacting to this week’s episode, I think we might hold steady next week.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterRatings news is in for episode 6×07 “Heartless”
Demo: 1.1
Live Eyeballs: 3.53 million
This is a .2 increase from last week.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterThis would come into play now, because Rumple does not want to fail again. He has no idea why this child hates him, so he has no idea how to fix it so he is relying on powerful magical items to try and help fix the problem.
That makes sense, to be sure. I still wish Rumple would say something like, “what if I fail…I did with Bae. Look what happened the last time I was a father.” It would make him look less Black-Hat and more like the Rumple we’ve known all along, clinging to power for a multitude of reasons like protecting his family.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterGiven what @nevermore wrote about the cycle A and E put Rumple through, I’m guessing that Rumple follows through on his plans and manages to cut away Morfetus’s destiny or fate or whatever (again, I’m confused…what exactly is it that Rumple will take away; is it just Morfetus’s hatred for his father? How is that “destiny” and not “byproduct of Rumple’s actions and Belle’s opinions”)
this would explain why it’s Morfetus as an adult under the hood killing Emma
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 7, 2016 at 9:30 am in reply to: 6 X 07 HEARTLESS – – What were your favorite and least favorite moments #329969RumplesGirl
KeymasterAside from the technical aspect of greening in SB, wouldn’t she also still be grieving Hades to some extent? Her True Love died pretty recently at her own hand. Wasn’t she actually in love with the dude? Ugh, I can’t with this whole silly soap opera side plot, this part of the writing looks like bad fanfiction
Yes magic mechanics aside, I think she’s turning green because once again Regina–the EQ this time–is getting everything she always wanted while Zelena isn’t, even if doesn’t really want Rumple anymore. It’d be nice if Zelena would bring up Hades to remind everyone that while the EQ has a new romance, Zelena just very recently lost hers.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterI am not even sure what Rumple’s point is as a character anymore other than a plot prop.
I think I’ve said this every season since S4, but I really do think they’re gearing up to kill him off.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterI agree the way they handled them meeting before was better than I thought, but the true love sapling, for me, would have made more sense if it was not just the sapling of their true love but the sapling of the very first true love in all of the world.
I was a bit confused by the sappling by the end, to be honest. Was the show trying to say that they were the very first true loves??? Blue seemed to suggest so but that doesn’t….make sense?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterIs Morfetus really a blank slate though? Normally fetuses are, but he was conceived by a Dark One, and that’s something we’ve never explored before. After all, Baelfire was born before Rumple ever became the Dark One. There could be some major side effects that we don’t know of just yet. The thought crossed my mind ever since we learned of his conception, honestly.
Right, but he’s also Belle’s son, who is not in any way shape or form dark/evil. If the writers want to un-blank-slate him, then okay, but at least make it more equal. From Belle he should get her ability to see people for who they really are and even in this episode Belle believes that Rumple “isn’t acting like he could” and she’s always believed that Rumple could–if he tried and worked at it–be the better man.
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