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@Demileto wrote:
@Phee wrote:
Possibly. He just seemed super intense, and he had ultimate confidence in PP not failing, so he felt like someone in a powerful and favoured position to me.
That particular group of Lost Ones are likely to Peter what the Death Eaters were to Voldemort: his closest associates, his most valuable servants, the people that are most devoted to his cause. He definitely had a Bellatrix Lestrange level of devotion to Peter, didn’t he? 🙂
Very nice comparison. Felix with his stick (seriously, what was that) is very similar to Bellatrix and her intense devotion to the Dark Lord.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@HappyEndings wrote:
My Least favorite is when Henry stepped in between Emma and Regina in Snows apt that should have been Snow stepping in and reasoning with them not Henry in my opinion. 👿
I don’t know if I agree. Henry is more invested in seeing his two moms get along. He’s also the one who just lost a father. He doesn’t want to lose either one of his mothers and making them stop bickering is the first step.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@slurpeez108 wrote:
Consuming boys’ shadows sounds eerily creepy, so I sort of hope that isn’t the case. 😕 I’d rather that Peter Pan needs Henry, perhaps because Henry is the key to undoing Rumple’s curse (more in lines with what Phee was suggesting):
@Phee wrote:“Undoing” could still just mean a loss of his powers instead of death though, and losing his Dark One powers wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing that he’d need TLK to save him from. There have been some discussions paralleling the Dark One Curse to the Shadow. Maybe there’s gonna be some sort of convergence of those two dark energies and they’ll end up cancelling each other out, leaving both Rumple and Peter alive and mortal?
Peter sounds sinister, but perhaps he is working for the “greater good” to eliminate Rumple’s curse, as well as his own. In the end, I’d prefer it if Peter Pan were actually a little boy afflicted with a curse, and hopefully, Henry is simply the one to break that curse (as the Savior’s son, that could be Henry’s destiny to free the Lost Boys and Peter Pan himself).
Maybe? But with Regina, Rumple and Hook all seemingly reformed we need a bad guy for the season and with GOAT working for Peter and given how nasty they’ve been set up to be, I hesitate about seeing the good in Once’s Peter.
If Peter is a poor kid who has been afflicted with a curse and is working for the greater good both for himself and for Rumple, then when that is discovered, who is the bad guy? We need a villain."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"2. I think Tink pushed her boundaries too far and Blue Fairy used a bean to send Tink away to Neverland. Then Think, ticked off at Blue, created the Dark One curse to exact her revenge since as a fairy she cannot directly do evil. Hence why it doesn’t belong in FTL – it was created in Neverland.
😯 😯
4. Peter decides he wants to go home and grow up and be a normal boy again. This could be after hundreds of years. Feeling abandoned, Tink casts the Dark One curse on Peter, turning him into a Shadow Wraith version of his former self, essentially “killing” Peter Pan and creating the “Pan” which is the Shadow Wraith.
5. Tink wants a new play mate, one that will be so jaded by loss that he will never want to leave her. So she tasks “Pan” with finding Henry and tells him that he can have any boys that aren’t Henry. Since Pan is a wraith-shadow, he rips the shadow off the boys to be his “friends” and leaves the “leftover” boys as the Lost Boys.😯 😯 😯
I’m going to think long and hard about this before I return but my initial reaction is 😯
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I agree with most of this thinking (i.e. Peter conspiring with fate to make sure Henry is born). However, I’m not sold on the Peter-consuming-Henry’s-shadow-to-gain-eternal-life theory. Why would consuming a shadow cause Peter to remain young? Even if doing so could somehow garner the consumer to remain young, there is no need for that in Neverland. Time is frozen there, as it was in SB under the curse. We know that to be true because Hook lived in NL for centuries without aging, as did Baelfire before he returned to Earth. So, Peter Pan would have remained a perpetual teenager since there is no time. There is no need to introduce a Elixier of Youth because no one ages there anyways.
Well maybe it doesn’t “eat” them to stay young (though we don’t know that NL is frozen in time just that time at least moves very very very slowly, but I take your point) but rather it sustains him in a different way. Maybe he’s controlling time on the island but that requires a steady diet of boys shadows (this is really strange to talk about without really knowing what is going on 😆 ). Their shadows are precious resources, all that youth and innocence, and that allows Peter to make sure the island doesn’t move in time. Henry’s shadow, though, is maybe the shadow that will end his constant need for shadows.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Despite Hook’s assurances that him and Milah talked about getting Bae and bringing him with them, the fact is they didn’t. They had nearly a decade to come back before Bae went through the portal and they didn’t. Why would Bae want to stay with Hook when he considers Hook to be the reason his family broke down and fell apart?
That line angered me. Why wait? If you really felt that terrible about leaving your son, how is waiting until he is older supposed to help? “Let him grow up without a mother, abandoned, and then we’ll swoop in and bring him with us because now he’s finally old enough?” That line….ooooooh. I was not happy.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Ilike this theory, but in a way, Peter Pan already did lead Rumplestiltskin to his son. By bringing Bae to NL in the first place, Bae’s life has been preserved for centuries, which is also how long it took for Rumple to create the Dark Curse to locate his son. If it weren’t for Peter Pan’s quest to locate Henry, Baelfire would have aged normally in Victorian London and died as an old man years before Emma was ever even born. What I want to know is whether Peter Pan can glimpse the future, and whether he realized Baelfire would father Henry, which is possibly why Peter let Bae return to Earth, which is around the time Emma was approaching adulthood. 💡
I do think PP can see the future and now that we know Bae wasn’t running from Hook like some of us thought, it makes sense that PP let Bae go in order to fulfill his destiny. Remember that line very sentimental line from Manhattan?
Everything that happens, happens by design, and there’s nothing we can do about it. Forces greater than us conspire to make it happen. Fate, destiny, whatever you want to call it. The point is… Maybe we met for a reason. Maybe something good came from us being together.
We all knew Emma was thinking of Henry, but maybe PP was too. He knew Henry would be the byproduct of Emma and Neal so he let Bae leave. Fate did conspire, but it was in the form of PP who (in my theory) wants to eat Henry’s shadow in order to live forever.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Yes, if ABC is willing to put OUATinWL up against the Olympics and not be too dismayed when it doesn’t do well, that would work.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@Belle of the ball wrote:
Wasn’t a Rumbelle fan until last night. Congrats, Once, you made me a Rumbelle lover.
Welcome to the party. We have cookies. And feelings. Lots and lots of feelings.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@Keb wrote:
@RumplesGirl wrote:
A few things as I read:
–We know that Neal came to our world in 1991. On his wanted poster it said he was born in 1977, but he came here when he was 14. So he had to have come through in 1991.But are we sure that he came straight to The Land Without Magic from NL? Or that he’d portray his age honestly on whatever ID they were using to create the wanted poster? (After all, he does like bars…so it’s possible he’d fudge that a bit sometime between coming to this world and Tallahassee.)
That’s all very true so I guess instead I should say: until we are told otherwise and with what we have to go on, Neal came to our world in 1991.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
