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SpoilerTV has updated their Cancellation Prediction Table. Remember, the closer a show is to 3.0 the more likely it is to get the axe. As expected, OUAT is in the safe “green” area right now with a 2.82. That’s close to the 3.0 and close enough to merit concern if the demos tick down this season (which they invariably will).
Worth noting, though, that it’s the fourth ABC show on the list, after Last Man Standing (comedy) and Castle (drama) and Blood and Oil (drama). LMS and Castle and Blood and Oil are going to get the axe if their numbers don’t improve–and they likely won’t. While ABC might not want to lose three dramas in one year, OUAT does have its head on the chopping block, it’s just a matter of if there is a stay of execution or not.
LINK to table: http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/08/spoilertv-cancellation-predictor-table.html
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Live+SD ratings are in for episode 502 “The Price”
Viewers: 5.38 million
Demo: 1.8
So, we really stayed the same with a very small uptick in overall eyeballs.
Worth noting that Quantico stayed the same as well at a 1.9, so they were still the #1 scripted broadcast show of the night, a title OUAT held for many years.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Okay, one more passing thought on Hook. But I need to discuss his selfishness. It’s rather selfish of the Pirate to waltz into Rumple’s shop and demand to know things from Belle, no? I mean, he’s curious about why TLK wouldn’t work, I understand that and in this case going to Belle is a natural idea. But…but…he doesn’t even inquire after Rumple or how Belle is doing. Instead he insults the love of Belle’s life to her face (bloody crocodile) and doesn’t even ask how she’s coping all while her *husband* is laying there at death’s door! It’s all about him and his needs and his desires and his agenda. It makes their drinking at Granny’s together hollow and not resonate because once again, it’s about Hook’s man pain but at no point does he turn to her and inquire after how she’s doing.
I guess I should be fair that no one in SB, apart from Grumpy at the ball, is asking after Belle, but no one is seeking her out either.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Ok, so I had a thought last night. What if Merida was the one who could pull Excalibur from the stone? I think she would be an excellent choice since she is already a queen/chieftain? Shes brave(duh), smart, fearless, truthful, and fair. And we know she’s in Storybrooke.
For all the reasons you list, I could see it being Merida with one big exception. Excalibur isn’t just about being brave, smart, fearless, truthful, and fair. It’s about being Divinely Appointed. The idea being that Arthur was specifically chosen to receive Excalibur (in a lot of legends, the sword is actually given by the Lady of the Lake–Nimue/Viviene–and returned to her when Camelot/Arthur fails). So while Merida would be an excellent choice, it’s going to come down to whether or not she’s “the chosen one” which is why I’m still banking on either Emma or Henry.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Are the writers simply going to ignore Lancelot’s fall from grace because of a woman, presumably Guinevere?
If they didn’t make Lance’s fall from grace Guinevere then it’d be one super weird twist. I mean, for the most part, they’re sticking rather close to Arthurian myth. We’ve got the main characters, we’ve got a round table, we’ve got the sword in the stone, we’ve got Merlin-Tree.
If the affair has already happened, would Arthur still be in good terms with Lancelot after what he did?
Depends on the sort of man Arthur is. Most of us agree there’s something “off” about him
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"That, right there, was a totally bizarre moment. Why precisely did Emma feel the need to suddenly make out with Hook? Also, unsolicited advances are only Ok when perpetrated by the wish fulfillment character, but not OK when it’s the now “tainted” heroine. Because, Dark One cooties, and all that.
Yes it was a straight up weird moment.
But OUAT claims to be all about strong female characters, but it just seems that the writers feel deeply ambivalent about what that might look like.
It’s absolutely our culture because OUAT isn’t the only one doing this rather (yes, I like perfidious) misogyny. But OUAT is doing it in spades. Regina goes “Evil Queen” and starts raping Graham and using the promise of love and sex against the genie to get him to do her bidding. Cora wants to advance in the world so she openly flirts with the young prince. Zelena is delving into dark magic and she starts feeling sexual thoughts to Rumple. Belle becomes Lacey and makes out with Keith in an alleyway. And now, Emma becomes the Dark One and suddenly she’s way more hypersexual.
(you touched on most of this in your second reply. I just hadn’t read it yet before I typed out the above)
On the one hand, Hook actually surprised me in his ability to turn her down. Maybe he has come a long way. However, his total rejection of Emma sorta contrasts with Belle’s acceptance and unconditional love of dark one Rumple S1-S3a. As Belle warned Hook “it’s a lot easier to hate a dark one than it is to love one.” I get why he’s taken aback, why he doesn’t want her that way. But it does make it seem like Emma with sexual appetite = fallen woman.
I wasn’t surprised that Hook turned her down but I don’t think it has anything to do with him having come a long way. I think it’s more that the writers want to show that Hook is a “hero” and that he thinks her choice matters. He says something like “that’s not who I am.” and all I could do was laugh because that’s all he’s ever been. Both Lily Sparks and Bnaz in her snapchat review called the writers on this, saying something like “yeah, it’s not “hot” when Emma forces the Pirate. Only the other way ’round” which is what I think the writers were going for. Had it been Hook who grabbed Emma to kiss her, the kiss would have gone on much longer and been considered sexy and steamy instead of the ravings of the new Dark One.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I could also see it being Regina as well. Knowing this show, they’d make it that Regina sacrifices herself for Emma to repay her for 422.
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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I don’t know about a creature, but there is something off about Guinevere. She seems rather interested in Camelot, but I can’t tell yet if that’s because she is after it/its power herself or because she wants to use it for the right, if extreme reasons, like ruling Camelot forever.
There’s something off about Arthur and Guinevere altogether, though. Where’s the “you cheated on me with my best friend and truest knight” angst?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
