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Yarn Cake!! Thanks KFC!
Some still try, but it becomes harder and harder to take any of it seriously when PLOT continues to trump all world-building or character building, and when the writer’s morality from their commentary about what they think they’ve written seems so twisted and odd (and contradictory).
Exactly. It’s hard to have those deep discussions we used to have when the story is focused on shiny and isn’t actually interested in, and only dances around, the more moral and philosophical questions. Or the morals they do present seem to be coming from left field and leave a really ugly taste in my mouth. For example, because Regina and Hook never lied about being paragons of virtue, their villainous deeds are somehow less evil? I mean…that doesn’t make a lick of sense. You mention the heroes don’t kill thing, and I said this on the podcast: the Pilot end with Charming cutting down guards to get his daughter to a magical tree. Snow and Charming fought an entire war to get back their kingdom. Rumple was touted as a hero who saved everyone when he killed Pan. And I’m sure there are other examples I could think of if I sat here for longer. Every storyline and moral quandary is only “arc only.” It’s like I’m expected to wipe my memory after 11 episodes so that A and E can present something new each arc, another story with a different moral thesis but one that runs against the previous stories and morals.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Yarn and Shamy. I mean, it’s like we spend an absurd amount of time with each other and you *get me* 🙂
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Are they really going to just think that we forgot that Killian having that fake hand showed us who he really is??? I mean…that’s kind of a big deal isn’t it!
Yes, they are really going to forget that. It would help if Will wasn’t the single most wasted character ever on this show. Their treatment of Will might be worse than Ruby’s and Belle’s and Neal’s combined.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"1. I would not call her hunched over in the present day.
2. She was a “spunky” 20 yr old because she was manipulating the author like sociopaths are wont to do. Also because she was actually 20 years old (and Victoria was trying her hardest to portray a 20 yr old sociopath being kept in an attic)
3. Her voice breaks into the “real” Cruella before the ink ever hits her. It’s at the dance hall. It’s supposed to your first clue that there’s something else going on with Cruella. For a second, the sociopath slips in.
If the ink matters anymore, it’s that Rumple and Team Villain will try to extract it to use it to force their happy endings somehow.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"LOL Rumple set it up. Well now, I’m more convinced of the switched as babies’ theories.
No, GOLD set it up. I just use Rumple more often when speaking of him. Rumple had no idea of Henry’s existence as Emma’s child. Gold nor Rumple knew that Henry was Emma’s son and wold be the key to breaking the curse. Rumple also had nothing to do with Lily and Emma–but he had everything to do with making Emma the Savior.
I’m not saying that because she has light hair and everyone else in the family has dark hair, she MUST be Maleficent’s daughter, but it could be a clue. Also Emma looks more like Maleficent to me( Though, Lily looks nothing like Snow or Charming)
Nope. Again, the true love savior of Snow and Charming had to be the one to break the curse. It’s literally written into the curse via TL potion coming from the hair of Snow and Charming. Who broke the curse? Emma Swan, the true love daughter of Snow and Charming. Who’s heart cannot be taken because it is the embodiment of true love? Emma.
She is the daughter of Snow and Charming, not Mal.
I’m going with fairy tale connections over biblical ones, given the nature of the show.
You mean the show where the hero is called a Savior and is clearly walking down monomyth road to her big metaphorical and/or literal death, followed by her rebirth?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Thanks, but I’m thinking the Black Swan connection is only by the name Lily and the connection to Swan Lake
That’s a rather tenuous connection. Lily is really Lilith, the name of a powerful demon (and Adam’s first wife) in some Jewish traditions. There is also the idea of a lily among the thornes (from the Bible). The writers used the name less because of the movie and more because of the mythological connection it has.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Snow White and Charming have dark hair. So does Henry. Emma is the only blond, and also Maleficent. Lilly has dark hair. How did Regina obtain Henry, again?
…And? I don’t get where you’re going with the hair thing. What does that have to do with anything? Baby August was a ginger and Adult August is most decidedly not. Punnet squares are 10000x more complicated than “parents have dark hair, baby will have dark hair.”
Henry: Rumple set it up somehow when Regina asked him to use his contacts as a “lawyer”. Regina drove to Boston and got him.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
