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Gold is more likely, since Emma is the main character. No way they would kill her….. But I have been wrong before >>
Since when is death final on this show. She’s walking Monomyth road…she’s going to die, either literally or metaphorically and rise again. It’s what her archetype does.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"So some way, Rumple’s finally gonna cl – clea – *twitch* – separate himself from the Dagger, but it won’t be by someone stabbing him with it if it’s currently unconnected to anyone. And Emma’s willing to step up and take on the responsibility. The Saviour being willing to sacrifice themselves to protect others from the burden of darkness/sin. Yup, sounds about right. (And I’ve gotta laugh that they’re filming it right before Easter.)
If this is the case, and Bobby is returning for Season 5 like Larry said, then perhaps just MAYBE we are going to get a storyline of Rumple dealing with his mortality after having his curse broken. Color me intrigued.
But it would be so rapid fire fast. Pure Villain for an entire season without any REAL explanation other than “he’s a villain” and then BOOM cursed involuntary removed followed by a season of him either 1) dealing with humanity again (but honestly, when was the last time this show actually dealt with Rumple’s humanity) or the more likely scenario 2) him trying to get his powers BACK and turning to Jafar for help or something. I don’t want another season of Rumple trying to get ALL THE POWERZ
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"The promo for “Heart of Gold” implies that we’re getting the Marian=Zelena reveal in that episode. The voice over blatantly says that Zelena is back “and more powerful than ever”, along with showing shots of what seems to be Rumple and Regina’s reactions to this revelation. And in that very shot of Rumple, it appears Zelena is standing in front of him.
Bingo.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Have you tried clicking on the menu icon in the upper-right of the chat and turning off the sound?
Yes but it comes back whenever you refresh your page
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"could MAYBE get on board with Rumple’s Tywin Lannister phase (the ends justify the means, everything I do is for family etc…)
Hm. Interesting parallel. I definitely get what you’re saying, though Tywin cares less about his actual offspring (with the minor exception of Jaime and only when Jaime plays by Tywin’s rules…) than Rumple does. Rumple actually loved and cared for Bae and did not see him as a pawn to extend the family power. However, Rumple’s 300 year long machination to corrupt Regina and manipulate all the things to get to his child, whatever consequences arise from that, does have a certain “let’s set the Riverlands on fire!” theme to it. If Rumple were to reveal that his S4 arc has been in service of Bae then his Tywin-esque escapades would at least make a decent amount of sense.
I think this is why we call a lot of S4 Rumple OOC. It’s not that he hasn’t been desirous of power, but that they’ve removed the crux of his story without any emotional resolution or follow through. I could more easily swallow Rumple’s S4 arc if he said, “I’m just trying to get my son back!” because that would absolutely be in line with his character and his main, as I see it, archetype harkening back to the very beginning.
But as far as the show’s internal mythos goes, if evil is something that’s “made,” then I’m entirely unclear about the process of how exactly Rumple got to a Chaotic Evil “watch the world burn” alignment, if that’s indeed where he’s at.
I think the show is trying to say it’s because of all these things that have happened to him–Bae dying, being held captive by Zelena–but staunchly refuse to actually say the former, and only hint at the latter. They’ve had him mention being held by Zelena in 411 (and I kept waiting for the very in-character Bae name drop). There are….reasons for this that don’t really speak to the overall mythos of the show or the archetype/character of Rumple but more to do with show politics and a general erasure of Nealfire for whatever reason (something I won’t go into here since…touchy subject).
Though… if evil isn’t born, it’s made, across the board, why on earth is dark magic apparently abstractly evil? Unless dark =/= evil?
I’ve thought about that as well. They don’t stray to far from common symbology and dark = evil is about as common as light = good. They even do this with their costuming–Young! Non Evil! Regina wear lighter clothing; the Evil Queen wears black and darker hues. So yes, I agree that it’s a contradiction in terms that a person can be made evil, but objects might be inherently dark and thus evil.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"did already occur to anyone that the spoilers from filming from the night are actually from 421? and the ones from the morning are from 422?
they often film out of order but I’m pretty sure it’s 422 since it screams major cliff hanger
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"So some way, Rumple’s finally gonna cl – clea – *twitch*
*internal twitching*
The Saviour being willing to sacrifice themselves to protect others from the burden of darkness/sin
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Number of resurrections and/or big returns: 3
Zelena.
Does she count if she’s returning pre-finale? We know she’s in SB by…what? 419/420?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
