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sciencevsmagic 5. Yes.
[adrotate group="5"]ry4christParticipantGreat questions!
1. Is the character currently alive? Yes
2. Does this character have magic? No
3. Does the character have children? We’ve never been shown or told of any
4. Is the character male? No
ry4christParticipantArc Ranking:
S1 (tied with S3A): Trying to figure out who was who and who knew what was just so much fun. They did a great job of showing the story, showing us that character motivations were more and more complex. Of all the arcs/seasons this still contains the most of my favorite episodes from the whole show. Even the “dud” episodes helped to build the world they were introducing.
S3A (tied with S1): Robbie Kay! Pan is still my favorite villain of the series. I loved the group being somewhere besides Storybrooke and the Pan being Rumple’s dad twist was awesome.
S2A (1-16): I loved Snow and Emma’s adventure in the Enchanted Forest and Cora’s arc was great to see – second favorite villain after Pan.
S5B: We got a great villain in Hades and some great closure for Regina, Zelena, Cora, and Henry Sr. However, we had Robin’s death and no backstory for him as promised and no origin story for Hades.
S4B: I enjoyed the QOD’s stories and seeing August again. However, we had been waiting for the author revelation since Season 1, and it just seemed like a bit of a letdown. He wasn’t a totally unexpected literary character, instead he was….a TV salesman…
S3B: This was where the plot started feeling recycled to me. They were cursed without memories back in Storybooke. Again. 3A had ended so strongly with bold writing choices and then….almost everything was undone an episode later. I did love the finale 2 episodes (tied with the Season 1 finale for my favorite) but it was pretty much unrelated to the rest of the arc.
S2B (17-22): Seeing Storybrooke in flashback, Groundhog Day style was great. I could have gotten on board with GOAT and the science vs. magic storyline, but it never went anywhere. We were never told why Tamara hated magic and Pan’s drawing of Henry in 3×22 continues to be the most frustrating non-explanation we’ve gotten in the show.
S5A: This arc left so much to be desired for me. They spent the entire season before building up the mysterious and all-powerful “sorcerer” only to have him easily killed before the arc was even finished. While I thought the actress was great for Merida, we didn’t need two episodes of backstory for her. Also, memory wipe. Again.
S4A: Casting is almost always spot on in OUAT and Anna and Elsa were no exceptions. I throughly enjoyed Ingrid as a villain – her quiet, deranged mannerisms were a nice contrast from Pan and Zelena. However, this was my least favorite arc because I felt like it became OUAT incorporated into Frozen, rather than the other way around. Every episode’s flashback but 4×11 featured one of the new-to-the-arc characters. 3 or 4 of them didn’t feature any of the main characters in flashback at all. I didn’t mind the writers including the new Frozen, but they allowed it to take over the show.
ry4christParticipant1. What was your favorite episode of 5B?
For me is was “Sisters.” I know it had a retcon feel to it, but I thought it was a very creative way to bring Regina and Zelena together. I’m not sure I would have believed them trusting each other without that previous (albeit short) relationship. I also love Barbara Hershey as Cora, and as quick as her turnaround seemed, she sold it for me. I always love “twists” that fit into the original story organically, and this did in my opinion.
2. What was your least favorite episode of 5B?
“Ruby Slippers” – It wasn’t a well-developed story and was clearly made to appease fans without the writers having to work too hard.
3. What did you think of Hades and the Underworld?
I thought Greg’s portrayal of Hades was incredibly good. I, like may of you, definitely wish we had been given his origin backstory. Also, the portrayal of him “truly loving Zelena” complete with TLK was troubling to me since they seem to be indicating with RumBelle that true love is completely selfless. Otherwise I enjoyed what I saw. I thought the Underworld was a really fun opportunity to revisit dead characters, and for the most part liked who they chose to spotlight. Again, I was troubled by their portrayal of how one gets to the Better or Worse Place, but overall the Underworld was fun and compelling to me.
4.What was your favorite and least favorite moment?
Favorite: Either Regina reconciling with her father or with Zelena.
Least Favorite: Robin’s death is definitely up there. No need to explain.
5. We had a lot of old favorite (and least favorite) characters return this arc; which character did you most like seeing? Who do you wish we saw?
Cruella! I love how she differs from the other villains in that she was just born evil. Victoria Smurfit does an awesome job portraying her. I would have loved to have seen Graham like many of you I’m sure.
6. Thing you’re most looking forward to in S6?
I’m definitely looking forward to the show branching out beyond Disney and “fairy-tales” and seeing their twists on them. I liked when they brought in Frankenstein in S2 and I was disappointed they didn’t continue that trend.
7. Overall grade and final thoughts on S5B?
B- Overall I enjoyed this arc. Robin’s death and the lack of origin story for Hades brings it down from an A for me.</p>
ry4christParticipantWhile re-watching the library scene I saw some interesting pages – the page before the Gulliver illustration and the Don Quixote illustration are the same and then there is another before the Captain Nemo illustration (having troubling attaching screen shots, my apologies). Even though there are clearly stories in between as Henry flips through the pages, all three pages shown are from the “The Water Babies, a Fairy Tale for a Land Baby” by Charles Kingsley (1863). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Water-Babies,_A_Fairy_Tale_for_a_Land_Baby
Disney also had a “Water Babies” sort of segment in 1935. This would be a weird one for them to adapt, but you never know. It’s interesting they included it in the book.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.ry4christParticipant“Will we ever see Robin Hood’s (Sean Maguire) backstory and the dark side that we’ve heard so much about?
KITSIS: Second half of the season, absolutely.”I wish they would just own up and be real with people when they change their minds like this. The writers of the show all about “hope” continually give us false hope.
May 10, 2016 at 3:09 am in reply to: EW 3/16 – Once Upon a Time bosses address Robin Hood rumor #323350ry4christParticipant“That’s like being mad in the middle of Hunger Games because she didn’t win. You’ve got to wait until the end of the book.”
I think this is one of the biggest problems with Adam and Eddy’s philosophy behind the show. You can’t write for a t.v. show, especially without a specific end date, the same way you write a book. We’ve literally spent over 75 hours watching these characters. No one would watch a 75 hour movie and not expect definitive hope to be shown for the main characters when “hope” is advertised over and over again as the show’s slogan. So it’s understandable that fans are losing hope for Regina. How do they not see that?
ry4christParticipantSo why exactly did the vague “something” give Regina page 23 in 4×15 to show her that a happy ending with Robin was possible, if her happy ending with Robin WASN’T going to happen because the writers were going to kill him off?!?! Sigh.
ry4christParticipantAnd now the page is gone…
ry4christParticipantI think you’re right WickedRegal – there’s no way the funeral can be for Robin given Regina’s composure in that scene. Unfortunately, I think you, RG, and others are right that Robin will still die – which I’m extremely unhappy about. Does this mean he won’t even be given the usual treatment of having his farewell episode focused on him in the flashback, since that seems to be about Hades and Zeus?
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