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So, Rumple thinks he’s bargained to keep himself, Belle and Henry safe from the curse. But this curse may have a far worse effect on him than on anyone. While everyone else begins to act out their worst fears and lies, I think Belle will begin to learn some cold hard truths about Rumple. From Anna. Anna knows EVERYTHING, and isn’t afraid to speak the truth. And, most importantly, she’s not afraid of Rumple. He’s bound by her dagger-command that he can’t harm her. She’s gonna tell her old friend Belle EVERYTHING. The hat, the urn, the scorcerer. So, while we see everyone harkening back to old grudges which have already been forgiven, Belle will be learning some cold hard truths about deceptions which might remain unforgiven long after this spell has been broken.
I hope that this is exactly how things play out.
[adrotate group="5"]I know I said I wasn’t gonna bother listing all my dislikes, but I want to mention this one because I feel like it’s an example of a big problem the show has as a whole. Regina telling Robin that he and Henry are the only two people in town who believe in her. So, I guess that moment when Emma vowed to get Regina a happy ending, that never happened? The whole ep where they established how Emma wasn’t giving up on Regina and wanted them to be friends, that never happened? Snow giving her that pep talk while they were walking down the road, that never happened? With that line they gave Regina to say to Robin, they blatantly ignored actual things they had established earlier in this half of the season, things that were portrayed as a big deal mere episodes ago. It’s similar to how they’re writing Rumple, the things they’re having him say that directly contradict that time when he DID chose his son over power, DID choose to sacrifice himself for the sake of everyone else. So having him say stuff implying he’s never ever thought of anyone else except for himself and his lust for power is just a straight up contradiction of what they’ve written previously. For as much as it annoys me that they retcon plot stuff, like what happened to Blackbeard, the retcon of characters themselves is what really infuriates me. If the writers don’t care about consistency, then how are we meant to care and get invested in the characters and the story?
Couldn’t have said it better.
Okay…I said I would never mention them again, but I need to know. Could someone tell me whether Robin found out what Regina did? Does he know that Regina killed Marian?
Favorite:
– The goodbyes were heartbreaking.
– The ending scene was really nicely done. The shards falling from the sky, the musical score, all of it. I really liked it. This spell seemed to hold more weight than even the Dark Curse did, mostly because no one really had any hope left. Everyone just stood there, or locked themselves away. They all said that they had hope, but seemed resigned that they’d murder each other. Especially when Snow and Charming’s view of each other shattered and they pulled away. Very nice, indeed.
– Belle’s still kicking. Maybe she’ll be more important soon.
Mixed Feels:
– “Coming from you, that’s just terrifying.” Yes, Regina, you are absolutely right. Snow…? Are you even there anymore? I know that change is good, and seeing Snow bash blind faith says something about how she’s developed through the adventures they’ve had. Still, I’m not sure how to feel, and I’m not sure whether development in this direction was warranted for her.
– Literal wishing star? They are pulling all the Disney tropes this season. They already used that concept with Blue, but why not? Let’s make another wishing star. Also, literal, physical wishing star? What the heck? When was that even a thing?
-Rumpel is at least not leaving Henry behind.
Disliked:
– 🙁
– I can’t take the Arendelle suspense seriously. I know they’re quirky, but almost everything is a joke. How can I fear for them, or wonder about their fate in anyway when no threat is taken seriously?
– No. They have not been alive in a frozen state for THIRTY YEARS. No. Plot Hole.
– So…Why would Ingrid ever unfreeze them? No, really…
– Rumpel already chose to do the right thing over power. His redemption was getting to a head. Rumpel trying to have everything again is already out of character for him. They can’t just say that he’s plain evil without a reason. He’s doing things that I’m not entirely sure he would have even done in the Enchanted Forest. I likes me a good villain, but I can’t stand him being out of character anymore.
The worst part is that the perfect reason is just floating in the atmosphere, and they dance around it:
“Tried to be good once and I… ended up in Dark One hell, woke up from Dark One hell to my dying son, was insane and tortured by a crazy (witch) for a while, son died because of her, no one gave a (truck) and wanted her around anyway, got humiliated by hypocritical frenemy for wanting revenge. Finally, my wife offers no comfort, only a speech about how I should put aside the trauma and grief to let torturing-son-murderer one day be my neighbor. Good’s overrated. I’m done with it.” BOOM.
It may seem like a lot, but a couple words or even expressions could tell the audience that this is the reason for his change. Uuuugh. I can’t even like him anymore. He’s always been my favorite character because he was a villain who wished he could change, but just believed that he couldn’t. Now they are taking even that away. He’s just a straight villain who doesn’t want to be better (and worse) for no apparent reason.
I think it fluctuates. I’d say his heart was:
Before becoming the DO: 10% black (I think on some level he hated Milah just enough to let her “die”, but only realized it subconsciously.)
First time as the DO: 30% black
Losing Bae and the years between then and the Dark Curse: 65% black
Realization that keeping his power will solve nothing, then sacrificing himself to kill his father: 35% black
Zelena’s arc: 35% black
Losing Bae (for real this time): 75% black
Killing Zelena/Proposing to Belle: 85% black and inceasing
Finding the hat: 95% black
5% of red left this season is his ability to experience mild guilt.
Rumpel: “I totally feel bad that Belle is being hurt, but not enough to actually change a thing.”
The rambling and jokes from the Frozen characters are getting to me. I know that a lot of people joke and are sarcastic in reality, but it’s starting to feel like every other sentence.
This got to me this episode as well. I think it might be because they needed to flesh out 2 hours of script.
Yeah. When I think about it, I suppose that could be the answer.
Notes/Queries:
— So…Anna and Kristoff are dead? Sorry, but Frozen people (who’s hearts are still in their bodies)= dead. They’ve already established that.
— If Ingrid’s powers were limited, how did she still use the magic mirror across the room? Maybe I missed something?
— “Neal is still gone.” Rumpel’s use of “still” makes me wonder.
Favorite:
— Finally seeing the sheer power that Emma has. Perhaps we’ll soon see why she’s the savior, other than because she broke the curse.
— Hook is trying to be an honest man.
— Sweet Regina/Henry scene.
Mixed Feels:
— The rambling and jokes from the Frozen characters are getting to me. I know that a lot of people joke and are sarcastic in reality, but it’s starting to feel like every other sentence.
— Ingrid has a bit of a skewed view of things. Her sisters didn’t fail to accept her. If anything, they seemed very accepting of everything. Ingrid killed one of them. This isn’t Emma accidentally scratching Henry. Ingrid showed herself to be a danger in one of the most hurtful ways. Accident or not, Gerda’s emotions were human. It doesn’t mean that every bit of love and acceptance that was present never existed at all. Maybe gazing into that mirror has messed with her head? She’s acting a lot like Regina did circa season 2. It’s just crazy.
Least Favorite:
— 🙁
— “I never do anything without a good reason”…Well, then. Rumpel must know the secret to the people writing his character this season because I, for one, am lost. It just seems like they’re writing Rumpel to be the big bad for the sake of writing Rumpel to be the big bad. What is the point? He is literally unrecognizable. It’s like he’s been possessed. This quote better be true. There better be some AMAZING reason for all of this.
— Snow is justifying OQ because…what now? Those situations were not the same. Also, by the time Snow met Regina she was no longer “selfish” or “shallow” Her mother had already humbled her. And honestly, Snow needs to stop demonizing herself for being 12. Children are selfish and childish. It’s literally what they do.
— The Charmings are really out of character. Since when does a pep-talk from Regina make the Charmings do the obviously right thing?
Especially when you’re ruining other people’s lives, too. Roland and Marian. Hello? I don’t think I’ve ever NOTP’d a ship on this show as much as this one. And that includes the crack ones and Cora & Rumple. Tonight just dug the hole deeper…and for a moment, one shining moment, I thought Regina was going to rise above it. But Robin didn’t let her.
I know. She was so close. I haven’t been proud of Regina in so long. I felt so proud when she said “next time”. It felt good and healthy. Regina of all people said, “This won’t work out, but my heart will open again one day.” I liked hearing that from her. Then, here comes Robin… :/
Favorite:
– It’s like Ingrid is the mirror. She really knows how to play on people’s dark emotions. Just like the Belle scene, I found everything she said to have just the tiniest spot of truth. Quite hurtful, indeed and I like it.
– Rumpel’s “potion”. Henry really thought he was going to get somewhere, didn’t he?
– Reference to Mr. Gold wanting ice cream in season 1.
– Belle! I’m glad they didn’t forget you, Pumpkin.
– Aurora still exists.
Mixed:
– I’m glad Regina seemed to be preparing herself to move on. She even said “next time a happy ending comes…” That line alone was such a HUGE character leap for her in my eyes I nearly put it into my favorites…and then, there was that huge moment of weakness.
– Ingrid’s backstory is really tragic and pretty good. I just feel that something is missing…I don’t know what. Just something.
– I find Emma’s sudden power instability to the point of being dangerous to be a little contrived.
– I burn a little every time they call that baby Neal. It’s just kinda awkward for me, still.
– Glad we get to see a bit more of Cinderella, but her kid should be a girl, and not an infant by any means.
– Rumpel’s gonna what now? I may just be stupid, but I’ve never been so confused as to his motivations. If it’s world domination, why? If it’s infinite power, why now? If it’s a way out of Storybrooke, why does he need the hat? His character is regressing so much for seemingly no reason. If this was because he felt as if he had no purpose or good in him since allowing his past mistakes to end his son life, Id’ understand this more. It’d be like watching a man drive onto the tracks and headfirst into a train. Tragic, messy, but meaningful. However, they started this season with him still making promises to be a better man to Neal’s grave (albeit in the most shallow way possible). Also, I know he’s not exactly on good terms with everyone, but I hardly think he’d be okay with leaving them all to perish at the hands of the Snow Queen for *insert whatever reason*. Why is he so willing to do that now? The only reason this is not in dislikes is because I still feel lost…
Disliked:
– I cannot like OQ. No matter how things end up, this pairing is ruined for me forever. I had a paragraph here. Pretty big one, too. It explained all of my feelings, and why this pairing is in the gutter. However, there are only so many ways to say that this pairing will never work, even when it “does”. I’ve said them all. So, I’m just going to replace all of my OQ critiques with a picture of a big frowny face in my dislikes from now on.
– Will, ruining your life for someone is not what love is about. Do not ever teach that moral to anyone ever again.
I thought the primary reason that TLK didn’t work in SB was because of the “magic is different there” argument. The dark one curse is specific to the Enchanted Forest –hence why Rumple doesn’t look green in A Land Without Magic. If Belle had just kissed Rumple when they were back in the EF during then missing year, then TLK actually would’ve worked.
I dunno if I buy that. Especially considering all of the attributes of the curse are present. The only thing that is different is his appearance. It’s still a curse, even in Storybrooke. By this “different magic” logic, TLK wouldn’t break any curse there, but we’ve seen that it has. Even curses originating in EF. No, I think there is either an exact reason it’s not working, or the writers are just glancing over it to keep Rumpel’s power.
I think it’s the other way around: the Dark One wants to be free of its human host. I think it’s most likely that the Dark One entity wants to die, and that it’s long been manipulating its hosts to this end, just like its hosts — when their burden becomes too great — trick others into taking up tne power and the curse of the dagger.
You always have the most interesting theories. I agree.
(Kinda)Crack Theory:
I think it wants to be let loose, or to take over it’s host. We’ve got hints and clues that Regina and Rumpel’s side stories are going to draw together into a bigger plot. Yensid might have written the book/created the DO. The artifact will release the DO, and the the curse itself could be the next big bad.
I wondered a while ago if the Dark One was ever supposed to live as long as Rumpel has. I always figured that all of them eventually gave up/went insane, and passed it on. I also wondered why a “curse” had very few negative affects to it. Now we may be delving into what it really means to be the DO. I have a headcannon that the DO is every evil, perversion, gray area of EF combined into a spirit (now possibly by Yensid) and sealed in a dagger that humans mistakenly took unto themselves. The spirit feeds on it’s host and all of it’s greed, lusts, etc. until the host is empty and destroys itself. The only reason Rumpel was still around to be one of the most infamous of Dark Ones is because he was driven. It’s all a perfect set up. Rumpel has even lost Bae, so he no longer has that extreme driving force(yes, there is Belle, but happiness/love, is less extreme than “Oh God. Dropped my kid into a place. Hope he isn’t dead.”). The curse is ready to leech him and skedaddle, or use him to release it, since he’s been so resilient. He thinks it’s going to free him, but that’s a lie, fed to him by the evil desire living in his heart and his dagger.
That’d also play into why Rumpel has been giving an especially low number of *coughcough* cares… for people as of late. The curse is in it’s last throws of consuming him, and his heart is/will get blacker than Regina’s ever was. Maybe we’re soon going to learn why TLK has stopped working in Rumbelle.
