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It makes me want to flip all the tables that they’re repeating the rape by deception plot point. With any luck they’ve at least learned that a person who does such a thing shouldn’t get a redemption arc where the people involved end up being cool with what they did? #hope
Sadly, I think your hope is misplaced. These are the same writers who gave Zelena a “redemption arc” through motherhood after she raped Robin Hood. They then wrote Regina as not only forgiving Zelena but also befriending and defending her half-sister. And now Zelena is getting to return in S7 despite the actress being demoted from a series regular.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
hjbau wrote: I think the idea of Hook staying and raising the baby is ridiculous.
All I see in in that scene is Colin, not Hook. When I watched the scene, I couldn’t get past the mental image of Colin singing to his real baby in his Irish brogue. No amount of acting could make me believe that it was Wish Hook and not Colin. Colin and the baby are adorable, but it was an obvious case of fan pandering.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
s he really Lucy’s father? Is he a good guy? And will he cause a “bizarre love triangle” between Henry, Cinderella, and himself?
I’m pretty sure that Jack isn’t really Lucy’s father. I think Lucy is Henry’s kid. There was the flashback in S6 with Henry and Lucy and she called him “daddy.” The only way that Lucy could be someone else’s daughter is if Ella was two-timing Henry in EF 2.0, which would further alienate her from the audience. I don’t think that is the aim of the writers since I believe we’re meant to root for Ella and Henry, who’ve been compared by the writers to Snow White and Prince Charming.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I haven’t seen the film yet, but well spotted. I think Swann/Swan has become quite a popular last name among fictional female characters. I certainly have come to prefer Elizabeth Swann over the rest (i.e. Bella and Emma).
Also, I noticed that in Ever After the prince is called Henry although the female character in the Cinderella role is called Danielle. It’s probably a coincidence since Henry was a very popular name in medieval Europe with many kings having that name.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
In the German fairytale, Rapunzel is not called a princess. Her character was probably just Disnified.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
It’s going to be a convoluted reason that doesn’t make any sense. The actors chose to leave, so the writers had no choice but to scramble for any explanation whatsoever. I wish the writers could have been brave enough to let Emma sacrifice herself in the S6 finale rather than bring her back to life. It would have been sad but knowing that JMo would leave, but it would make the most sense and would have been true to the savior/mother character we knew in S1-3. Now fans will always wonder why she isn’t there to help Henry. Having a second child is not a handicap and shouldn’t prevent her from being the savior. The real Emma Swan (before she began acting totally OOC) would never have willingly forsaken Henry, no matter how grown up he is.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
3 weeks? I wonder whose bright idea that was… It seems like a risk when ratings are low.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
And I just don’t really see Rapunzel = Tremaine = Hook’s baby mama, because I don’t think it fits with what we know about him sneaking into his daughter’s prison to play chess with her and having her piece be the tower. That doesn’t fit if Rapunzel was his lover instead of his daughter.
What about Lady Tremaine’s cursed alias Victoria Belfry? I think that points to her being Rapunzel and having been locked in a tower. Also, the description of Rapunzel is that she seeks revenge, probably on Mother Gothel. We’ve seen that Victoria locked up the witch with the bad wig in her tower, which sounds a lot like revenge. I think that if Lady Tremaine is Rapunzel, then she will have a lot in common with Wish Hook, who according to the synopsis for 7×7, is seeking powerful magic to get revenge on Wish Rumple. I think all signs point to Victoria Belfry = Rapunzel. What her exact relationship with Wish Hook is based on the synopsis and photos of young Rapunzel and Wish Hook is the only question left on my mind. I suppose that Rapunzel/Victoria still could be Wish Hook’s daughter, especially since as you observed, Wish Hook was ageless due to being in Neverland, to which he could have easily sailed on multiple voyages going between the realms. It still seems like an odd choice due to how close in age Wish Hook/Rapunzel seem in the photos, but as you also observe, Wish Hook would sneak into a tower to play chess with his daughter. It fits too well to be overlooked.
Another possible scenario could be that Victoria is Rapunzel and lover of Wish Hook. They had a fling, he left, and nine months later, Anastasia was born out of wedlock. Being an unmarried woman, Rapunzel regretfully let Gothel, the only mother she ever knew, raise her baby in the tower, but she swore to herself to rescue her child and get revenge one day. So Mother Gothel raised, not only one, but two generations of young girls in that tower: Rapunzel and Anastasia. Years later, Wish Hook returned from one of his trips thinking he would find Rapunzel still locked in the tower, but when he got to the top, he was shocked and amazed to find Anastasia, his very own daughter. Never having expected to be a father, Wish Hook became softened and changed due to his paternal love for young Ana. Whenever he would return from one of his sea voyages, he would secretly climb the tower to play chess with his daughter until one day she was gone. Presumably Rapunzel married up, became Lady Tremaine, came to gather her daughter and get revenge on Gothel. Lady Tremaine destroyed that blasted tower, seeing how it is now in ruin, imprisoned Gothel, and took Anastasia to live with her, Drizella, and Cinderella until Ella accidentally somehow caused the “death” of Ana at the age of 14. That is why Wish Hook was seeking her but unable to find her again in EF 2.0.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I think it is 2017. It may be that Henry left SB when he was only 16 or 17. He could have finished high school early if he went to summer school and opted not to pursue an advanced diploma but just did the minimum requirements for graduation.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
In other words, the fact that TLK has repeatedly failed to break the Dark One curse is proof that it can break the Dark One curse? I don’t think the writers are being inconsistent about that.
I think the only reason it has repeatedly failed is because the writers don’t care about proper world building or consistency of their narrative. Regina clearly said that TLK can break any curse. I think that is the case (or at least was S1), but the writers just danced around the fact because they didn’t want to give Rumple and Belle a final TLK (nor Emma and Hook either) for some reason. Maybe both of those tales were meant to be cautionary tales.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
