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ParticipantRegarding the dreamcatchers, I saw a few suggest that making dreamcatchers could be her new hobby to pass the time, just like how Rumple would spin straw into gold for the same purpose.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantSo dark-one Emma’s newest pastime is making dreamcatchers the way Rumple’s was spinning. I’m not even sure how to unpack that. Why did they have to choose the most iconic SwanFire symbol?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Participant@Rainbow – That just sounds like another CS attempt to explain away the obvious: CS =/= true love.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantNow that I think about it, one really bizarre bit of dialogue was Head!Rumple’s reaction to Emma and Hook’s conversation, where he says something about Emma crushing Hook’s heart. Head!Rumple’s interpretation of how that encounter went seems totally off to me — if anything, Hook was the one doing the crushing (whether Dark Emma cares is another question). So either the writers have just lost all grip on reality — which I wouldn’t be too surprised about, considering how many people are cheering Hook’s “resistance” to Emma’s “advances” (cue eye roll) — or they are applying a mass production approach to episode writing, where different people are ghostwriting different parts of the episode. Either way, it’s weird.
I don’t think that’s the only option. Head!Rumple is supposed to represent the dark one (as opposed to Emma herself). I think he’s just twisting things, as usual. He represents darkness incarnate; so of course, he’s going to intrepret Emma playing Hook for the cutlass as cut-throat, underhanded and manipulative. But what Head!Rumple may not realize is that he’s the one being played.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantA&E: Surprise twist: King Arthur, the legendary hero of Camelot, is actually the villain!
Audience’s reaction:
A&E’s reaction:
Audience: It’s not like you’ve never tarnished a beloved hero and made him evil?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantI definitely think you might be onto something. Especially if we factor in Belle’s repeated comments about what it means to love the DO (the thing about how she loves all of Rumple, even the parts that belong to the darkness, and the bit about it being harder to love the DO than to hate them).
Yes, that.
There is obviously several contrasts being set up — between Hook and Belle, between Hook and Regina, but also, weirdly enough, between Hook and Robin. I thought it was interesting that in 5×3 there was a line where Robin says he’s not a thief anymore, while Hook says something to the effect of “being a former pirate, I can tell you for a fact that part never goes away” (I forget the exact words). In context, Hook is coming off as particularly hypocritical: darkness never goes away, but Emma’s original “lightness” or “goodness” is forever compromised such that he doesn’t want to have anything to do with her anymore because she’s “tainted.” Essentially, Hook has just flunked the whole “in sickness and in health” part of the committed relationship.
It is odd how Hood is the one who has come out of this smelling like a rose compared to Hook who smells like a codfish. Hook certainly bombed that test.
If the writers are doing something consciously, it’s not with the intent to show why CS isn’t TL or why it can’t work.
But it is. Why didn’t the TLK ever work before? Why did Hook’s cursed lips rob Emma of her true love magic? Because Hook’s love is selfish…the anti-TL kiss. That is a deliberate thing the writers set up.
I don’t trust the writers. Deliberate or not, they aren’t going to suddenly do an about face and have Emma wind up with Regina, have her wind up alone and happy as a single mother, or bring back Neal and go “yup. it was SF all along.” So, yes, the writers might know what they are doing, but it’s not actually a good thing.
I don’t trust them either, but I happen think Hook is still being written as self-deluded and hypocritical. Whether the writers set up failed TLK with intent of then setting up an actual redemption arc for Hook is the next question.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantThe problem is, the way CS has been written so far, even if we do come to that moment of confrontation where Hook says “I should have trusted you all along”, they’ll probably kiss and make-up, to the cheers of a good chunk of the audience. #headdesk
Yeah…that.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantTo quote Lily Sparks…
If magic can make you go from being the Dark One to being the Purest Hero ever then does magic really have a price? If Rumple’s heart went dark from all the horrible things he did but then he just waved his hand and all the darkness left and then all it took was one touch from a sword and he’s okay? Ugh whatever.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantFor your enjoyment, a new Lily Sparks’ review!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantOn the other hand, are the writers really not aware of what they’re doing? Surely, this is their way to show some ambivalence towards Hook’s feelings for Emma (and rock the CS boat so that it’s not all smooth sailing for that particular ship). This episode is written by Jane Espensen, and while I’m not super impressed with her latest writing choices, I think she actually knows what she’s doing in terms of writing this sort of underlying patriarchy.
I may be giving them more credit than is due, but how could the writers not be aware? Take a look at the following example.
All I’m saying is that the writers know what they’re doing. There is an obvious contrast between the way Regina addressed Emma in 5×2 and the way Hook addressed Emma as “dark one” in 5×3. It’s obvious SQ baiting, and yet they’re also showing just why TLK didn’t work for CS three times. As the former Evil Queen, Regina certainly understands more of what Emma is going through having to grapple with darkness more than anyone else (with the exception of Rumple). Hook should’ve known better what that’s like but he’s too consumed with hatred for the dark one to see the real Emma on the inside.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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