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Don’t get your hopes up. Once is still doing well enough for ABC, and remains as one of their top rated shows.
I was just expressing the opinion that I think it would be more natural for the show to conclude at the end of s4 rather than to drag it out another season. The show may be performing better than other shows in ABC at present, but the network is known to have a problem on its hands in that it has had a series of flops in comparison to other network channels.
In recent years, ABC has thrown more shows on the air than other networks and thus endured even more failure. It’s ratings continue to decline and for the 2013-14 TV season ABC was third in total viewers and fourth in the key age 18-49 demo. That erases the storyline that NBC is the cellar dweller and CBS is only for the elderly: ABC can now be mocked on both counts. Link
So while ABC might consider Once to be a success in comparison to its other shows that get canceled, the show went form around 10 million viewers in 4×1 to around 6 million in 4×9. The show might hold steady, but that is a very heavy loss. Frozen brought in enough curious viewers for one episode, but the show’s plot couldn’t maintain them. So, the network may offer the show another season to get syndication, but I think that would be a detriment to the quality of the show, which has been in decline for a while now. It seems at least one TV critic would agree with me.
ABC Entertainment Group president Paul Lee, who has a tendency to charm while talking in bland generalities about how all the new shows are fantastic and “delicious,” met the press this morning and once again failed to be humble and made excuses left and right (according to Lee, “Once Upon a Time” doesn’t get the attention it deserves because it’s a family show, not because it’s a blah show). Link
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Queen’s Spell of Shattered Sight at each other’s throats. Emma and Elsa race against the clock to free themselves of the ribbons and take down the Snow Queen and her curse.
I’m thinking something from Emma’s childhood will be the key to her defeating Ingrid. Perhaps Emma’s missing memories of her time with Ingrid will help her get through to Ingrid.
More than any other half-season villain, I’m still hoping that Ingrid can be redeemed. Though Ingrid is a little unhinged at present, all she wants is a family that loves her, which is a redeemable trait. I still think Elsa and Anna could become like daughters to her if she’d let them.
David can only watch when Regina clashes with Mary Margaret in an epic battle.
That ought to be amusing. I have a hunch that Baby Neal may magically save his parents from Regina when she goes all Evil Queen on them again.
Meanwhile, Gold gathers Belle and Henry as he prepares to leave town forever,
So are Belle and Henry immune from the spell?
and Will Scarlet looks to square his tab with Hook.
Yes! I’ve been waiting for this retribution. I love me some Will Scarlett!
Kristoff’s thickheadednessleads Anna to a heartwarming discovery
Is this something to do with the message in a bottle from her mother?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
The Spell of Shattered Sight isn’t a curse. It’s a spell.
However, I get the point that there have been too many curse and curse-like spells for the climax/main problem. There needs to be other types of battles that our heroes need to face.
I think if the Spell of Shattered Sight had been depicted differently from the CGI cloud of doom used for the dark curse, then it might not have felt so repetitious. Perhaps if the spell had been depicted as a heavy gale or as a snow storm, it might’ve just looked different enough to feel new.
Does anyone have any ideas as to what would do as the ”main problem” for a plot arc instead?
That’s the problem you run with fantasy. After a certain point, you’ve used all the tricks of the trade such as memory losses, witch fights, and even walking brooms. I think this show probably needs to come to a close at the end of S4. I think once the author of the book is revealed (assuming there is one) and the sorcerer’s identity confirmed, then that would be the appropriate end point for the show.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I find it hard to believe that the Apprentice and Blue are out of the picture quite yet, so I do suspect they’ll escape the hat at some point.
Same. “No body equals no death,” as Blackbeard’s reappearance proved.
I’m really hoping that somehow it’s implied that Neal may be responsible for releasing the magic from the hat. Like, Neal focusing his attention on the hat, and suddenly it begins to spin. And we spend the winter hiatus wondering if Neal is good magic, or bad.
I’m assuming you mean Baby Neal, since I also believe he may be magical.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
how in the heck is Rumple going to get away with any of it?
Crap is about to hit the fan for Rumple. I don’t think Rumple is going to get away with it, despite his best efforts. Nor do I think Rumple will be able to control Hook indefinitely, since in all likelihood, Hook will get his heart back. Unlike Hook, who has the perfect excuse for a lot of the bad stuff he did (“the crocodile made me do it”), Rumple has no excuse other than his own cowardice and lust for power. The fallout for Rumple will put his marriage in jeopardy, because he still hasn’t learned that he simply cannot have it all. Hook is right insofar as Rumple cannot have both power and love. He is going to have to choose. By trying to have unlimited power without any accountability, the choice will be made for him, because the more he clings to power, the more likely it is Belle will leave him. And we know Hook is skilled at survival, so likely Rumple is going to let him go when Belle finds out (probably from Anna) what Rumple’s real goal is with that dagger. I think Belle is about to find out about the fake dagger, and her own suspicions about the dagger being a fake will be confirmed when she tries to command Rumple with it again. I think Belle will try and control Rumple again, probably in an attempt to save everyone.
Point of clarification: Are Belle and Henry also immune to the spell of shattered sight thanks to the deal Rumple made with Ingrid?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
OMG THIS! If they already had the wishing star (an item they retrieved on a voyage to the foreign land, so yeah, they shoulda known what it was) why did they even need to go on the voyage that got them killed? Just make a wish that Elsa wasn’t magical, or that her magic wouldn’t hurt anyone. Problem solved.
I don’t think the problem would be solved, because I don’t think Queen Gerda was pure of heart. Her husband probably was just her consort who went along with everything his wife commanded. Even assuming Elsa’s parents did wish for their daughter to be “normal” (i.e. powerless), that wish doesn’t seem like a pure-hearted one to me. Their daughter was born with special talents, but her parents didn’t recognize them as such. After way Gerda trapped Ingrid in that bottle for killing Helga, it seems like Gerda was afraid of Elsa killing Anna. It sounds like a very selfish wish, one meant to protect themselves and Anna, rather than trying to help Elsa learn to control her power.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
So I watched this episode, and surprisingly I didn’t hate it. Illogical plot and rehashed curses aside, I actually found my eyes misting up in the sister reunion scene (something I didn’t expect). Despite the snowflake necklace being a wishing-star plot-device, I actually really got teary-eyed over it, because it was born of true love, and when Elsa wished upon it, Anna appeared on a beach, commemorated by a rainbow-beam burst. I realized that scene was actually everything I wished for Emma and Neal finding their Tallahassee using the swan necklace. *sigh*
Of course, I’m not expecting that to mean anything, especially not after the way Emma said a teary goodbye to Hook. That, plus Blackbeard is magically alive, so yeah, it looks like in spite of Hook’s attempted murder of BB, Hook is once again off the er, hook. Everything bad Hook did before his heart was taken will be hidden, while everything he did while Rumple had his heart will be brought to light. And Emma will forgive all because Hook will say “the crocodile made made me.”
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
This is breathtakingly and tragically lovely, Lauren. Well done!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Is it just that Ingrid’s 1982 story is based in NYC? Maybe! (Though that begs its own question of why NYC, but that’s neither here nor there.
Adam and Eddy are both very fond of NYC. And it’s easily the most recognizable city in America. There is a reason why TV shows set their programs in large metropolises, Chicago, NCY, LA–the audience is familiar and knows what to expect
I don’t think we can be certain one way or the other which city Ingrid was meant to have arrived in. It just seemed like a nondescript urban setting, There weren’t any signs or yellow cabs that would’ve identified it as NYC. So for all we know it could’ve been Chicago, Atlanta or any other metropolis. The subtitle just said “Our World, 1982.” I think that scene of Ingrid coming through was filmed in Vancouver, which we have seen as the setting for NYC in the show, so I could easily believe it was NYC. Whether that matters to the story, I’m not totally sure. I am curious why though if Ingrid came through in 1982 ahead of baby Emma in 1983, why didn’t Ingrid find her and adopt her as an infant? Ingrid coming to Boston or Portland, ME, would’ve made more sense if she were trying to find baby Emma, whom we know came to Maine in 1983 and ended up in the foster care system in Boston, MA.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
