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Yes, please let us visit Mermaid Lagoon in Neverland! That would just be icing on top of an already stupendous cake! 😀 There were two young women cast (posted in casting call for 2×22 thread). Here’s the link: https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=3356&start=10#p49083

I’m thinking one could be a mermaid. Wasn’t Ariel supposed to be 16 when she married Prince Eric? The blonde girl, Laine MacNeil, is 15, so she would fit into the correct profile. Plus, her hair is close to strawberry-blonde with reddish hues. It doesn’t really bother me if she doesn’t have bright red hair, for as long as the story is compelling, I’m thrilled!

In other news, Beverely Elliot, who plays Granny, tweeted an interesting message:

Sorta sounds like Granny might be written out of the plot, so maybe Beverley is saying goodbye to OUAT for good, which is why the season 2 finale is especially bitter-sweet for her. 😥

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@HappyEndings wrote:

Question: What if Bae is Peter Pan and he does go back to Netherland will he be reduce back to a little boy or stay the same? ❓

In Neverland, there is no passage of time, forward or backward. I doubt Baelfire would suddenly revert back into a boy if he set food in Neverland as an adult; he’d just stay his current age. When Hook went to Neverland, presumably he remained as he was, a young man of about 30, but simply didn’t continue to age.

Question: Wasn’t Peter Pan the leader of the Lost Boys if so it looks like the Lost Boys are to be regulars so I wonder how they will fit in ❓

I think the Lost Boys are what you’d call reoccurring guests, not regulars like Lana Parrilla or Jennifer Morrison. If they decided to stick around, then I believe we’d mostly see them in Neverland flashbacks with young Peter Pan.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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We’ve all been assuming that Tamara and Greg take Henry to Neverland, but maybe they take him to another world like Oz.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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I’m thinking perhaps Tamara and Greg sent Nealfire to the EF rather than NL, where he met Aurora, Philip, and Mulan. Neal might eventually make it to NL from there. Greg and Tamara then kidnapped Henry and took him to NL, not counting on the rest of Henry’s family to follow them.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

Yet, seeing as Neal and Henry were missing from the Jolly Roger and this is only the end of S2 with still at least one more season to go, I just don’t think Rumple could so easily reach his redemption yet

Agreed. It’s a series long redemption for him. It has to be. I’ve always maintained that. He has a lot to atone for. It cannot be swept away in one minute or with one act.

I don’t know if I want him to be normal right away. I think Rumple as the Dark One is really good TV. But I want him to learn how to use magic for the good.

But wasn’t it Rumple’s intent to use magic for good to save the children from the Ogre’s war (which he did)? Yet, then that dark power corrupted him and cost him his son. So we’re back to intent, which really does seem to be everything, Rumple may think he can change and keep magic, but he can’t have everything, which is what he warned Regina in 2×17, but she insisted she could.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

Intent is important, I agree and I’ve said numerous times that I do think he has a plan. But intention is one thing, following through is another. I think the good will win out in him because he has people who love him, who believe in him and want him to be the good man. Good won out when he walked away from killing Hook because Belle pleaded with him. “There’s still good in you. I’ve seen it, I’ve always seen it. Please show me I’m not wrong.” And in the end, I think he’ll place family ahead of his selfish desires to remain powerful.

I think we’re mostly in agreement here. I wrote, “What are Rumple’s intentions? Whether he even tries to carry out the plan to remove Henry is really the lynch pen.” If he doesn’t even try to harm Henry in any way, then that’d be great for everyone involved and the family could actually have a happy resolution for once. Yet, seeing as Neal and Henry were missing from the Jolly Roger and this is only the end of S2 with still at least one more season to go, I just don’t think Rumple could so easily reach his redemption yet. But, maybe I’m totally wrong, and Rumple will act self-sacrifically. I’d love to see a Rumple become a normal man through a TLK. But where do the writers go from there if they totally remove the Dark One from the equation? There’re always Regina, new villains like Tamara and potentially other antagonists from other worlds, but it just seems a tad premature for Rumple to give up his magic yet (though we could hope). Maybe the rest of Rumple’s struggle will really be how he comes to terms with being just like everyone else, as Henry said back in Manhattan when Rumple was have anxiety attacks in the airport terminal.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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@LaurieAnne wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I think he’s learned a lot. I think he knows he made the wrong choice as he said to Bae in The Miller’s Daughter. I think he’s going to struggle with it, absolutely. He wouldn’t be Rumple if he didn’t. But I think the game-changer is going to be a positive one. There is still plenty of drama for Papa and Bae to be played out (especially if Bae and Hook had a father/son relationship). It’s going to be a long (series long) road for Rumple to redemption and there will be setbacks but I don’t think he will follow through with any plan he has about Henry.

Yes, Rumple has acknowledged his mistakes to Neal, so their relationship seems to be looking up right about now. Yet, just as Rumple was facing death and apologizing to Neal, he was simultaneously conning Snow White into killing Cora with dark magic to save his own skin. So, has he really learned form his mistakes? Robert Carlyle said at Paley Fest that even after centuries of searching for Baelfire, Mr. Gold really hadn’t learned anything; he offered to use magic to turn Baelfire back into a teenager again, and magic is what cost Rumple his boy again in the first place. If Rumple has any hope of true redemption, it has to result from his own choice to willingly give up magic once and for all. As long as he clings to magic, he will keep paying the high price.

For me, it will all come down to what are Rumple’s intentions. Does he really want to change for his own sake, and not just to please his son or Belle? He has chosen magic both over Belle and Baelfire before, and since then Rumple, has really only acted in a self-serving manner. I recall a conversation in which Regina said intent is everything (when speaking about their deal that something tragic should happen to Kathryn) and Rumple had to play his please card to avoid speaking about his intentions. He has a way of nit-picking over all the details so that people don’t see his intent. I know he loves Belle and Bae, but he has hurt them both, which is the price Rumple has had to pay for his magic. You’d think he’d have learned not to tamper with magic after he lost Bae and used the curse to arrive in a land land without magic, yet he brought magic to SB anyway. Immediately after, Rumple promised Belle he wouldn’t harm Regina, but then had the Wraith do his dirty work. Bring magic caused the people of SB to lose their memory if they crossed the town line, so that Belle lost her memory. That was a huge price to pay for Rumple.

What are Rumple’s intentions? Whether he even tries to carry out the plan to remove Henry is really the lynch pen. Will Rumple give up his magic if it means saving Henry? Could that be his undoing? Or does Rumple still think he can keep Baelfire and his magic by plotting to be rid of Henry? I doubt he’d ever kill his grandson, but he probably wants him out of the picture. I think Rumple believes he can out-smart destiny, by being rid of Henry, but in the midst of carrying out his plan, he realizes that “undoing” can have many different meanings. Perhaps he sets his plan into motion to be rid of Henry by trying to send him away, but as he does so, Rumple has second thoughts and then sacrifices himself to save Henry, but it comes too late, and instead Baelfire is sent far away. Just my thoughts.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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@Ser_Dragon wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

@LisaS wrote:

I still can’t see Rumple going after Neil or Henry. The only person I could see going after them would be Tamara especially if they got in the way of her agenda

Oh I refuse to believe that Rumple will do that. I think it’s Tamara and I think she wants magic because she wants revenge (maybe for the death of her parents, Robin and Marian whom she believes were killed by Rumple but really it was the Sheriff of Nottingham)

Can I just ask you something? If it prove to be indeed Rumple who do something to Henry, then what are you going to say? Will you still take his defense or are you going to condemn him? No bashing intended, I’m just curious.

If Rumple has a plan to remove Henry from SB (as I suspect he does) and then acts on it, then he really will have learnt nothing from when he let go of Baelfire and there will be no justification for it. As a huge fan of Rumple, I’m really rooting for him to seek his redemption and not harm Henry, but there is a reason that prophesy was introduced, which I don’t think can be overlooked or brushed under the carpet. It will come into play again by the finale, and it will have a major consequence, for better or worse, for Rumple’s and Baelfire’s relationship. We know there is going to be a major game-changer for them, and I hope it will be positive (though I have a nagging suspicion it won’t be, because there has to be enough drama to last for S3).

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

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I agree with Phee. How would Neal even be marked by the medallion if Aurora has it in the EF? I believe she has the one and only medallion (I wrote why I think there is only one in the 2×22 spoilers thread), and she’ll use it to somehow save Philip’s soul and reunite it with his body in the EF. Perhaps Neal ends up in the EF, but his soul was never sucked by the Wraith.

Since I do think you’re right that there is only one medallion, then the photo of Neal with red on his hand has to be explained another way. Is it blood? It stands out too much to just be a shadow, in my opinion.

It could be blood, a shadow, or maybe his hand is somehow marked once Neal is in the EF (if he indeed is). There isn’t much to go on yet.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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I agree with Phee. How would Neal even be marked by the medallion if Aurora has it in the EF? I believe she has the one and only medallion (I wrote why I think there is only one in the 2×22 spoilers thread), and she’ll use it to somehow save Philip’s soul and reunite it with his body in the EF. Perhaps Neal ends up in the EF, but his soul was never sucked by the Wraith.

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