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@Phee wrote:

That would certainly be a fun little twist on the story. “Jack” could easily be a nickname for a Jacqueline.

I don’t think it contradicts the mistaken identity bit, they’re two separate events/people. We saw Jack’s skeleton in the Giant’s house, and we saw James die at another time and place. James could have been part of the battle with the giants, but he ended up escaping and surviving it, unlike poor Jack.

That would work. I think the casting call for “Helena” a fierce hunter, is actually Jack (played by Cassidy Freeman). I think Arlo is the giant’s older brother who warns him not to venture down the beanstalk.

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@Sarah_TN wrote:

Okay where are Hook & Rumple? Could be a good thing, could be a bad thing.

I have a theory that Rumple is protecting Henry, his newly-discovered grandson. Hook might still be in the hospital.

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Ok, I didn’t know these had been posted elsewhere. Here are some more BTS photos though. I think there is a showdown that happens between Cora and Regina vs. the Charmings, Neal, and the Blue Fairy:
http://storybrooke.net/photos/thumbnails.php?album=284
http://storybrooke.net/photos/thumbnails.php?album=283
http://storybrooke.net/photos/thumbnails.php?album=282

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@Phee wrote:

Looks like they’ll be disabling the security system at Mr Gold’s shop. Question is, what are they trying to get at? Mr Gold himself, or just something he’s got in his stash of goodies at the shop?

Good question! My guess is that Cora and Regina are trying to harm the Charmings and Neal so that Regina can gain back custody of Henry! Regina and Cora are up to no good. First, they dissolve the SB barrier! Then they twist a forcefield off inside of Gold’s pawn shop and enter his back-room office (where I bet the “good guys” are hiding out and where Rumple sealed them in to protect them)! Wicked! Also, MRJ (aka Neal) is listed as number 19 in the showdown scene, but not Bobby (number 3). 😕 Maybe Rumple is off somewhere guarding Henry, his newly-discovered grandson! I hope that’s the case! After Rumple threatened to kill all the Charmings in 1×12, I think he’s going to end up nearly losing his life to protect them and Baelfire!

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@Phee wrote:

Isn’t it fun when they throw a bunch of random numbers and whatnot at us and leave us to figure it out? Love seeing all the different ideas and interpretations. 🙂

Yeah, it’s a real doozy. *Head-hits-desk.* 😉

Phee wrote: @EvilQueen wrote:

Oh, and is it just me, or does Greg know a bit too much? As in, he didn’t tell Emma that he saw anything, heck, he risked his licence by saying he was texting! But he was very quick to call this other person and tell her/him something interesting…Now, I’m also not sure what was it that this person “wasn’t going to believe in” – was it that he saw some magic (which excuse me, but I highly doubt, that ball of fire was hardly visible from behind of Rumple’s hand! especially at that car speed!) OR that he saw Rumple or Hook and that was what was so interesting? Maybe he was looking for one of them for ages?

I think Greg was very purposefully looking for SB. I think “Her” knows what he was searching for. So his, “You’ll never believe what I saw,” was along the lines of, “I found them, we were right!” That could play into him having been from a magical land, and once he was in our world, he was seeking out magic here. Depending on who he was, where he was, and when he came back to our world, he may have even had knowledge of the curse, and that could be the reason he was trying to track everyone down.

Like EvilQueen, I also felt Greg knew way more than he let on to Emma, as evidenced when he spoke with HER on the phone. I don’t think anything random happens on this show, and I don’t think he’s just some “average Joe’ as Emma said to her parents. I agree that it’s most likely the case that Greg has been deliberately searching for Storybrooke for a long time, and when the curse broke, he seized the opportunity to trace the magic. Like Phee, I took his “You’ll never believe what I just saw” as confirmation that he was reporting back to HER. Maybe he was confirming that he’d found magic or magical characters. I think they’re both from another land, but they somehow ended up in our land, on the other side of the SB boundary. They want to get to SB though because they want to find a way home.

@TheGoldenKey wrote:

Well here’s what I find rather odd. All his outgoing calls are from Pennsylvania, some as inland as Erie. Yet all his pictures show him on the east coast. Doesn’t make any sense. So, we have NO area codes or numbers linking him to the coastline nor do they show him travelling from Pennsylvania to Maine.

As I was getting towards the end of the list, searching the codes, I thought, “Please let one be from outside PA, just to mix it up.” I did find it interesting that the final one is for “New Castle”. All the others had a compass bearing, but that one just straight up said “Pittsburgh, New Castle”. If we’re thinking he is from Pittsburgh, because that’s where the repeated number is from, then it’s interesting to see that paired up with “New Castle.” New monarch? New ruler of a new land? We have a Newcastle here in Australia, but it’s all the one world, so it stuck out to me that the PA one is spelled as two separate words, especially when castles are kind of a thing on this show.

The reference to New Castle and there being a monarch would fit nicely with my theory that HER stands for Her Evil Royalty (a reference to the band HIM when on tour in the USA). If Greg serves an evil monarch, as I suspect he may, his reporting to a phone number associated with the word castle could be a big hint in that direction.

Phee wrote: My fave theory right now for this guy is the Wizard theory, which would fit quite well, if he’s someone from our world, who has interacted with a magical land, then come back, and is searching to find a remnant of a magical land in our world. In such a scenario, I’m imagining that “Her” is Dorothy, because she’d be someone who has had similar experiences to him, and would understand his current mission, so they’d make a good pair IMO.

I really like the theory of Greg being the professor who ended up as the Wizard of Oz. However, I’d wager that HER might refer to some evil ruler rather than Dorothy. By calling HER “honey” it would be very interesting if the “wizard” and the evil ruler he serves have a romantic relationship of convenience, sort of like Rumple and Cora did at one point. While the wizard is traditionally, a “nice guy” he did lie to everyone in Oz about being “great and all-powerful.” His agenda may in fact be to learn the art of magic from Rumple. The fact that the “wizard” of Oz didn’t have actual magic may have made him obsessed with acquiring it. Perhaps the ruler he serves is actually a witch, who was without magic while stranded in our world, but could sense it when Rumple brought it over (similar to how the BF confirmed she could feel magic’s presence in SB in 2×1).

Phee wrote:

EvilQueen wrote: Something else that stroke me as odd. From the pictures he’s supposedly visiting the coast. Yet all pics of his meal are beef and no seafood. No lobster, crab, fish????

It’s super blurry on the screencap, and I hadn’t originally noticed it when I was making them, but up the top right corner it seems to say “2 weeks ago”, so those pics may not have been taken on his east coast trip.

For argument’s sake, let’s say that the photos were taken on his trip from PA to Maine. PA is landlocked except for Lake Erie to the west and the Delaware River to the east. All the photos featuring Greg actually support a sea-themed trip up the coast. There is actually an obvious picture of him in front of a seafood restaurant that lists several items found on the coast, including lobster, crab, and shellfish. In fact, all this seafood listed makes me wonder if he isn’t from under the sea! Could he be a merman? 💡

TheGoldenKey wrote: Found the statue in the first pic. It’s part of a collection in Steveston BC, the fictional town of Storybrooke. You’ve got the old fisherman tending his nets, the young tenderman unloading his catch and the female canner out on her break. I guess they have no real significance other than to emphasize he’s on a sightseeing trip.

Thanks for that little nugget of gold! The fisherman seems to corroborate the notical theme of him being from “under the sea” origionally and then having been stranded in our world when the curse hit. Maybe he wasn’t stranded in SB, but instead traveled by sea to our world though an underwater portal!

In fact, all the pictures of Greg suggest an ocean theme: the seafood restaurant, the harbor, and the seaman! Of course, the photos could just be further confirmation that he was in fact traveling up the Eastern seaboard on his way to ME and took lots of pictures, rather then a hint that he himself is from the sea.

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

Yes, I think Cora’s price for using magic was losing Regina. Now that Regina seems to be opening her heart to Cora again, I wonder what price Cora will pay now if she uses more magic. Also, I theorized about this in another thread, but I have a feeling Cora keeps her heart inside of Rumple! Except for a magical knife that only he seems to know the location of, he is invincible and immortal. He’s the perfect place to hide her heart, IMO.

That’s a terrifying thought!!! Wouldn’t Rumple know if he was holding Cora’s heart?

For this theory to work, Cora would have had to have hidden her heart within him without Rumple’s knowledge (like while he was asleep), otherwise he’d have direct power over her.

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

I have no doubt she was lying. I think she wants Rumple out of town, finding Bae, not curing Belle and then having him stick around for awhile. She has all these plans and now that she and Regina are back together, I think having Rumple around is an obstacle, one that she could deal with by sending him away.

Agreed. Cora has an agenda to rule, which is why she probably made a truce with Rumple and sent him out of town searching for his son. I don’t trust that conniving snake for a moment. We’ve already seen evidence of her corrupting Regina in her daughter’s broken state. Cora will never change her tune.

@NONNIE wrote:

Rumple gets others to use magic so they have to pay the price. I do think as Rumple back in the early FTL he might have used and practice all the magical tricks but as he advanced in his knowledge he did not have to resort as often to these methods. I do not think Rumple believes Cora (as evidence by the look on his face) but it suits him to let her think that he believes her. Have you ever known Rumple to deal honestly and open with anyone?

The only person we’ve seen Rumple deal openly and honestly with is Belle, and only after several failed attempts. Even with Baelfire, Rumple lost his nerve and broke his deal. So, I was surprised when Mr. Gold asked Cora point blank if she had any spells to restore memory. I thought he’d at least try to broker a deal. Maybe he figures his priority is to find Bae and then deal with Belle, who seems healthy except for her lost FTL identity. But I agree that Mr. Gold’s facial expression suggested that he didn’t believe Cora when she said she only knew the spells he’d taught her.

CORA uses magic all the time so she must be paying the price in someway… Maybe by the loss of her daughter’s love. We KNOW Cora has no heart… where it is hidden no one knows. Does Regina know Cora has no heart?

Yes, I think Cora’s price for using magic was losing Regina. Now that Regina seems to be opening her heart to Cora again, I wonder what price Cora will pay now if she uses more magic. I have a foreboding sense that Cora might not make it to S3 (which would be fine by me).

Also, I theorized about this in another thread, but as evidenced by them sealing a deal with a kiss, I think Cora and Rumple have a tenuous romantic past. I have a feeling Cora keeps her heart inside of Rumple! Except for a magical knife that only he seems to know the location of, he is invincible and immortal. He’s the perfect place to hide her heart, IMO. For this theory to work, Cora would have had to have hidden her heart within him without Rumple’s knowledge (like while he was asleep), otherwise he’d have direct power over her.

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Thanks, Phee, for all the sleuthing!

@TheGoldenKey wrote:

Great job Phee! Thanks so much for sharing that with us all!

Well here’s what I find rather odd. All his outgoing calls are from Pennsylvania, some as inland as Erie. Yet all his pictures show him on the east coast. Doesn’t make any sense. So, we have NO area codes or numbers linking him to the coastline nor do they show him travelling from Pennsylvania to Maine.

It’s possible that the reason Greg’s cell phone has only PA area codes is because he only knows people in that state. He didn’t call any local numbers while he was traveling, but he did keep in touch with people from home or work. It appears like the person he called most was the Pittsburg number, which I agree with Phee is likely HER number.

What if HER is an acronym meaning “Her Evil Royalty”? Maybe Greg serves an evil ruler from yet another far-off land. Since Eddy and Adam often pull references from popular culture, here’s a tie-in:

According to Urban Dictionary:

When the Finnish Love Metal band HIM wanted to realease a CD in North America they were told that they had to rename their band because Him was already a cpyrighted band name.
They renamed their band HER for a rare realease of Razorblade Romance, and HER jokingly stands for HER EVIL ROYALTY to comabt HIM’s HIS INFERNAL MAJESTY.
They are now able to realease and tour under the name HIM as the prior band is obsolete.

The Golden Key wrote: Just a thought and it’s way, way out there. But what if he’s the writer of the book. Always thought it was fantasy and how surprised to find out all his characters were real. Like I said, way out there but the thought of him being some sort of writer just strikes me as odd.

That idea occurred to me too. Would be very interesting to see that play out, but I’d prefer the author to be someone who is connected to SB, someone like August (though he hasn’t be confirmed as such, despite his knowledge of book binding).

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@Phee wrote:

Even after seeing the kiss in the ep, I still can’t really see the baby daddy theory panning out. I know it was implied, and obviously they want us to question it, but I’ll still be surprised if Rumple ends up being her father. If he was, he’d know, and after all he went through with Bae, why would he intentionally set out to corrupt his own child the way he did Regina? Does not compute.

I agree 100% that if Rumple knew Regina were his daughter, there’s no way that he’d have mistreated her like he did, considering his love for his son Bae. However, I find myself wondering that maybe he doesn’t know. It’s entirely conceivable that Cora and Rumpel carried on an extra-marrital affair, but Cora claimed the child was Henry Sr.’s. As the dark one, you’d think Rumpel would be able to tell when Cora was lying to him, but maybe his emotions clouded his judgement.

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@ScarletLady wrote:

I agree I can’t wait.

Rumple had to take off his scarf for TSA. (blue magic) Did he just forget & become only Mr. Gold? 😮

Yeah, I’m guessing that Mr. Gold temporarily loses his FTL memories when he takes off his enchanted talesman. Yet, he probably remembers he is Rumpel when he puts the scarf back on.

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ScarletLady:
I’m thinking that Charming’s brother James fought with Jack in the wars against the Giants.

Yeah maybe he thinks that’s James. I would like to see some past story (or at least one scene) about the Giant wars, Jack etc. I hope that they give us many scenes with Rumple out of town. I wonder how he’ll react to be on a plane. 😀 Will he get nervous? 🙂

I don’t think James, Charming’s brother, was Jack, since he was traded as a baby to be King George’s son in a deal Charming’s father made with Rumplestiltskin. I won’t rule it out though, since Jack is an obvious nickname for James. But maybe Charming is Jack! 😮 In the original fairytale of “Jack and the Beanstalk,” Jack and his mother, a widow, were poor famers who traded their one cow for some magic beans. Sounds a lot like Charming and his widow mother in 1×6 “The Shepherd.” Also, in an interview, Josh Dallas said he’d really like to see that fairytale on “Once.” Also, we’re supposed to find out Charming’s real name this episode! However, we saw the remains of Jack at the castle in 2×6, so I’m a bit confused. Perhaps the person had stolen Jack’s sword and it was a case of mistaken identity.

@EvilQueen wrote:

As for giant targeting Charming – I reckon Regina manipulated him into it. You know, Cora was saying she can think of a few ways to get Henry back so she brought the giant back so Regina could either save the day or get rid of Charming?

I agree. Regina must know there was a history between Charming and the giant, so she and Cora use magic to bring over the giant in miniature form, because the giant wants revenge to kill Charming!

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