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Some new from the actress who plays Red, Meghan Ory on the big twist and what’s next for Ruby. Spoilers: http://uk.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/once_upon_time_meghan_ory_dishes_on_big/301468
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@ hjbau: I think only those who were cursed couldn’t leave or enter SB, because Henry was clearly able to leave and enter SB. Emma arrived, and she wasn’t under the curse. I think Emma coming simply started time again. August could have possibly visited SB even before Emma came. He implied as much in the diner scene when he hinted he’d come to SB for inspiration. It makes me think he’d been there before. Regina also said he was familiar. Yet, we still need more information.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I’m really looking forward the remainder of season 1! Edward Kitsis said:
“You’re gonna find out why the evil queen hates Snow White, what happened to Rumple’s son. You’re gonna find out who the stranger is. You’re gonna find out what happened to Kathryn and her disappearance, and it’s just gonna go crazy now.” http://www.examiner.com/tv-in-phoenix/once-upon-a-time-1-17-the-hat-trick-photos-wonderland-is-seen#ixzz1pHfnugiw
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@hjbau: I think you could be right, that Regina was speaking of losing her kingdom and no so much her magical power.
I posted this on another thread about Rumplestiltskin’s character analysis, but it ties over to the conversation going on here:
slurpeez108: Based on the Rumplestiltskin story, a poor miller boasted to a greedy king that his daughter could spin straw to gold. Rumple made the deal with the miller’s daughter: he’d spin straw to gold in exchange for her first born. The miller’s daughter married the king and bore a child. In order to save the child, she had to guess the imp’s name, and so sent her servant to discover it, thereby beating Rumple at his own game. If Regina is the infant from the story, perhaps the curse Rumple gave her is payback for escaping his domains as an infant. I like the idea, too, except that there are a few details that need to be squared away for it to fit.
Regina was a princess growing up before she married Snow White’s father. That would make her mother, Cora, a queen. Presumably, Regina’s father is the greedy king from the Rumple fairytale. Yet, we saw Henry Mills Sr., Regina’s father, and he really didn’t strike me as being very regal or very greedy. Instead, he was a humble valet, and not at all like the description of the king from the original Rumple fairytale. Perhaps Cora had an affair with her servant, Henry Sr, and was unfaithful to her husband, the king. Recall how Rumple told Regina that in order to enact the dark curse, she first had to sacrifice the heart of the thing she loved most: her father. If Henry Sr. was really the servant Queen Cora sent to spy on Rumple, and if Henry was Regina’s father, perhaps Rumple’s way of getting even was for Regina to kill her own father.
Also, if Henry Sr. was Cora’s servant, lover, and father of her child, that would make the king from the original story Regina’s step-father. We know that the king from the original Rumple story was very zealous for straw to be woven into gold. Who else have we seen who’s very zealous for gold? It’s King George, who demanded Prince James marry Abigail, King Midas’ daughter, to save the kingdom from financial ruin. What if he is the same king who married the miller’s daughter (aka Cora)? King George told Prince Charming he and his wife were unable to have children of their own, so they adopted. Perhaps King George, who was unable to father a child, was unkind to Regina, the illegitimate daughter of his unfaithful wife, Cora, which may be partially why Regina became hardened. (That would help to explain why Regina was such a rotten step-parent to Snow White). Perhaps King George arranged for Regina to marry King Leopold for money, like he tried to do with his adoptive son, Prince James and Princess Abigail.
Perhaps that’s how Regina’s mother, Cora, could be one-in-the-same as the miller’s daughter. Either that or Henry Sr. wasn’t Regina’s biological father, but perhaps her biological grandfather (aka Cora’s father–the miller from Rumple’s story).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
More spoilers for what’s happening this episode in FTL:
Snow White is on a mission in the March 18 episode of Once Upon a Time! Flashback to the time when Snow told Charming that she didn’t love him after his life was threatened by King George. Heartbroken, she took a potion given to her by Rumpelstiltskin in order to forget her love for him. Since that time, she’s been living with the dwarfs, but the potion is seriously messing with her mind.
Case in point: in this weekend’s episode, she decides to assassinate the Evil Queen. Fortunately, Charming is on her trail, having called off his wedding to Abigail. Now he’s determined not only to reunite with Snow White, but also to stop her crazy plan before she can get herself hurt. But, of course, she doesn’t remember him, so that throws a serious wrench into his plans.
In order to kill the Queen, Snow turns to the devious Rumpelstiltskin for help. Grumpy thinks this is a horrible plan, but Snow is determined. Rumple’s suggestion is for Snow to kill the Queen while she’s on the move, using a bow and arrow. We know that Snow obviously doesn’t kill the Queen, but will Charming be able to bring back her memory in this weekend’s episode of Once Upon a Time?
Meanwhile, Mary Margaret has serious problems back in Storybrooke, where she’ll be arrested for Kathryn’s murder. She too turns to Rumple for help…well, she actually turns to Mr. Gold to represent her against the murder charge.
Read more here: http://www.tvovermind.com/once-upon-a-time-abc/once-upon-a-time-preview-episode-16-heart-of-darkness
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Here is a big spoiler: We’re going to see Kathryn/Abigail (Anastasia Griffith) again in this episode! That must mean Kathryn is still alive in Storybrook, and we won’t just see her as Abigail in a flash-back.
Cast for this episode:
Snow White / Mary Margaret (Ginnifer Goodwin)
Emma Swan (Jennifer Morrison)
Rumpelstiltskin / Mr. Gold (Robert Carlyle)
The Evil Queen / Regina (Lana Parrila)
Prince Charming / David (Josh Dallas)
August W. Booth (Eion Bailey)
Henry Mills (Jared Gilmore)
Jiminy Cricket / Archie Hopper (Raphael Sbarge)Guest Stars:
Kathryn/Abigail (Anastasia Griffith)
Ruby / Red (Meghan Ory)
Valet / Father (Tony Perez)
Sidney / The Mirror (Giancarlo Esposito)
Albert Spencer / King George (Alan Dale)
Cora (Barbara Hershey)
Daniel / Stable Boy (Noah Bean)
King Leopold (Richard Schiff)
Young Snow White (Bailee Madison)"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Here is the complete plot summary for ep. 17:
“Hat Trick” – While searching for a missing Mary Margaret, Emma is kidnapped by a man whose affinity for hats has him teetering on the edge of madness. Meanwhile, viewers will be transported outside of the fairytale land that was for the first time when the Evil Queen persuades a skillful man of magic to come work for her one last time and travel to Wonderland in order to help steal something from the Queen of Hearts, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, MARCH 25 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.
“Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Eion Bailey as August, Jared Gilmore as Henry Mills and Raphael Sbarge as Jiminy Cricket/Archie Hopper.
Guest starring are Tony Perez as Valet, Giancarlo Esposito as Sidney/Magic Mirror, Jennifer Koenig as Queen of Hearts, Sebastian Stan as Jefferson, Ali Skovbye as Paige/Grace, Donald Adams as vendor, Roger Daltrey as Caterpillar (VO), Paul McGillion as Knave of Hearts, Laura Wilson as Mrs. Grace and Scott E. Miller as Mr. Grace. http://www.ksitetv.com/once-upon-a-time/once-upon-a-time-episode-17-hat-trick-spoilers/12367
Plus, we find out that the Queen of Hearts is played by an actress who is making her debut in OUAT: Jennifer Koenig. The two theories that either Regina or the nurse from the psyche ward are the Queen of Hearts are out.
It’ll be interesting to see what role Tony Perez as Valet plays. He is also Henry Mills (aka Regina’s father) in FTL. We also get to see him in episode 18.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Screen shots of the heart boxes reveal they are in fact different. The box Ruby found is different from any of the other boxes we’ve seen, either in Regina’s vault or on her desk.
https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=303"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
hjbau If Regina’s mother is the miller’s daughter making Regina the daughter that is taken or owed to Rumpel somehow and that Regina’s mother becomes queen like the story of the millers daughter. And so that would make an interesting connection to the two stories. We have the miller’s daughter who becomes queen and then her daughter becomes the evil witch in Snow White. That is a good integration of the stories and a twist. I like the idea.
Based on the Rumplestiltskin story, a poor miller boasted to a greedy king that his daughter could spin straw to gold. Rumple made the deal with the miller’s daughter: he’d spin straw to gold in exchange for her first born. The miller’s daughter married the king and bore a child. In order to save the child, she had to guess the imp’s name, and so sent her servant to discover it, thereby beating Rumple at his own game. If Regina is the infant from the story, perhaps the curse Rumple gave her is payback for escaping his domains as an infant. I like the idea, too, except that there are a few details that need to be squared away for it to fit.
Based on the summary for episode 18, we know Regina was a princess growing up before she married Snow White’s father. That would make her mother, Cora, a queen. Presumably, Regina’s father is the greedy king from the Rumple fairytale. Yet, we saw Henry Mills Sr., Regina’s father, and he really didn’t strike me as being very regal or very greedy. Instead, he was a humble valet, and not at all like the description of the king from the original Rumple fairytale. Perhaps Cora had an affair with her servant, Henry Sr, and was unfaithful to her husband, the king. Recall how Rumple told Regina that in order to enact the dark curse, she first had to sacrifice the heart of the thing she loved most: her father. If Henry Sr. was really the servant Queen Cora sent to spy on Rumple, and if Henry was Regina’s father, perhaps Rumple’s way of getting even was for Regina to kill her own father.
Also, if Henry Sr. was Cora’s servant, lover, and father of her child, that would make the king from the original story Regina’s step-father. We know that the king from the original Rumple story was very zealous for straw to be woven into gold. Who else have we seen who’s very zealous for gold? It’s King George, who demanded Prince James marry Abigail, King Midas’ daughter, to save the kingdom from financial ruin. What if he is the same king who married the miller’s daughter (aka Cora)? King George told Prince Charming he and his wife were unable to have children of their own, so they adopted. Perhaps King George, who was unable to father a child, was unkind to Regina, the illegitimate daughter of his unfaithful wife, Cora, which may be partially why Regina became hardened. (That would help to explain why Regina was such a rotten step-parent to Snow White). Perhaps King George arranged for Regina to marry King Leopold for money, like he tried to do with his adoptive son, Prince James and Princess Abigail.
Perhaps that’s how Regina’s mother, Cora, could be one-in-the-same as the miller’s daughter. Either that or Henry Sr. wasn’t Regina’s biological father, but perhaps her biological grandfather (aka Cora’s father–the miller from Rumple’s story).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
This issue was actually addressed in another thread on the general discussions board:
https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=318"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
