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ParticipantPerhaps Rumple didn’t create the curse. We know he doesn’t have the darkest heart in the land, since Regina didn’t require his hair to enact the dark curse like she did from others in ep. 2. We also know Regina didn’t create it either, nor Maleficent, who said, “Whoever created that monstrosity makes us look positively moral.”
In a recent interview, Robert Carlyle hinted that there could be a twist to the show's curse in that the curse may have surprising origins. He also said that relations between Rumple and Regina are going to become far more strained. “Certain things happen toward the last five or six episodes that shake our relationship,” he teased. “You realise that maybe Rumpelstiltskin [didn't create the curse] for her at all – maybe he was doing it for himself. Maybe the curse was created for him.”
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/s181/once-upon-a-time/news/a369793/once-upon-a-time-robert-carlyle-hints-at-curse-twist.htmlAlso, I can't help but wonder if Cora, Regina's horrible mother, might be the one who makes Regina and Maleficent “look positively moral.” (i.e. Cora created the curse).
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantI really like this idea. Happily Ever After (at least until the EQ unleashes the dark curse).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Participant@ weedith: I have to agree with your assessment of the actress who plays Belle.
I hate to say it because Emilie de Ravin seems like a lovely person, but I have never been terribly impressed with her emotional range.
I thought she was way too composed to be believable, either in episode 12 or 14. She did make a nice little speech to Grumpy about love, but it seemed too perky to be wistful. Also, in episode 12, I found her too pushy in her interactions with Rumple. She didn’t have the right balance of fear, followed by a softening towards him. Instead, it was curiosity followed by almost demanding throwing herself at Rumple.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Participant@ sjm: Yes, there is a definite parallel between FTL and SB. Poor Snow White/Mary Margaret. She just can’t catch a break. I can’t wait until ep. 18 to find out what she did to make the EQ so vindictive!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Participant@ mia: Thanks for sharing!
More news: “April 1 is the magical day. So much is revealed in the hour that Lana Parrilla says she was surprised the story wasn’t spread over several episodes.’You’ll meet young Regina,’ she says. ‘I look totally different — fresh-faced, doe-eyed, young, fun, excited about life, in love, and then it just gets really dark. It’s way before she becomes the Evil Queen.’ Adds Ginnifer Goodwin: ‘Folks will sympathize with the Evil Queen in ways they’re not expecting.'”
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantKing Arthur wrote:Wondering, since there are no female dwarves, are there also no male fairies?
Perhaps that is their price for dealing with magic all the time (i.e. neither dwarves nor fairies are permitted to fall in love, marry, or have a family). It’ll be interesting to find out where fairies come from and whether there are male fairies. The penalty for failing to serve the magic realm by granting wishes would be a fairy losing her wings. It’s not clear whether there would be a penalty for a dwarf failing to mine for diamonds.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Participant@sjm: The exact quotation from the Blue Fairy re. magic dust was: “Fairy dust is the most precious substance in all the land. Its magic is what powers the world.” In other words, the dust’s magic is what powers the world, and implicitly, what gives the fairies their magic.
@cruel_fortuna: You said, “The fairies still have to pay for their magic.” I think you’re right about this. and I think that the price they have to pay is they lose their wings if they don’t grant wishes for people. Similarly, I think the dwarfs may be bound to a life of service, which may also be part of the price of magic."That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantI’ve also been thinking about the double entendre of “the smallest things” and the implications of multiple meanings in SB. While “smallest things” refers to the objects linked to memories (like the items in Mr. Gold’s pawn shop), it may also refer to the idea that even the “smallest things” make a difference when it comes to changing your destiny and breaking the curse. For instance, in episode 14, Nova said, “Dreamy, you control what changes in your life.” Then, in SB, we saw Leroy take it upon himself to sell candles, at first by futilely going door to door and to Mr. Gold, until he brilliantly decided to blow a fuse so that there was a power outage. He sold out of candles and saved the nuns from eviction, which is a kind of “happily ever after” (HEA) story on a small scale. Like Mr. Gold/Rumple likes to remind us, “every one has a choice” and people can take matters into their own hands. This seems to be an undercurrent, which gives reason to hope that the citizens of SB will discover their HEA. In episode 4, we heard Emma tells Ashley, “You want to change things? You’re going to have to go out there and change them yourself, because there are no fairy godmothers in this world.” In this way, Emma is helping SB citizens to change things.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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ParticipantAccording to OUAT creators, Rumple is neither fully evil nor fully good, but has “shades of gray”:
Although series co-creators Eddie Kitsis and Adam Horowitz won’t quite come out and say he isn’t as bad a guy as we think, the former does allow that “he’s a complicated man, [and how you view him] depends where you line up with his interests. [It’s always a question of] whether you’re in the way of that agenda or not.” Adds Horowitz: “There’s more to come this season” — in particular, in Episode 19 — “about him and his son and what happened there that may, hopefully, shed a little more light.” And yes, there is some light in him. “A lot of these characters have grey areas,” Kitsis reminds. “There’s some humanity in him.”
http://www.tvline.com/2012/02/spoilers-greys-anatomy-castle-criminal-minds/#more-305136 Also, the title of episode 19 is “The Return” and one has to ask, “Who's going to return?”. My theory is that it'll be Rumple's son. Plus, I read that Belle is going to be in the season finale. Might we see Rumple/Mr. Gold risking all to save her from Regina?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Participant@ weedith: I think you’re on to something. I recall in ep. 13, David said to the Siren: “I want reality or nothing.” I’ve noticed the theme that reality is better than illusion becoming apparent.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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