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@Pan14 wrote:
… so the question is… WHY DID THE BLUE FAIRY WANT TO COME TO THIS WORLD?
I was discussing that very question with people, and one person said, “Invasion.”
Can’t find anything to contradict it so far.
Blue is like the Jacob of OUAT (Lost reference), pulling all the strings behind the curtain.
And Jacob was quite willing to sacrifice people (like all the people who didn’t survive the Oceanic 815 crash; all the women who died in mid-pregnancy, etc) for the “greater good” of finding a replacement Protector for himself.
Also, like Jacob, the Blue Fairy seems to have a very hands-off policy when it comes to things like the Ogre Wars with their child draftees. Jacob as well brought people to the Island, then turned them loose to turn on each other, with no help or intervention.
[adrotate group="5"]stefParticipantThe OP mentioned Narnia:
In the Narnia book “The Magician’s Nephew,” the boy Digory goes to a secret, magical Narnian garden and is given a magic apple, which he takes home to his dying mother. The apple revives her, and then Digory plants the core in the garden of their house.
The fruits of the tree which grows from the apple core have healing properties. Many years later, the tree blows down in a storm (notice that it is *not* cut down on purpose), and the now-grown Digory has it made into a wardrobe, which he takes to his manor house out in the country.
This wardrobe, of course, is the portal to Narnia in “The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.”
stefParticipantSo if a sprinkling of fairy dust on a dwarf egg makes that dwarf capable of love, and the dwarves are mining for fairy dust right then and there, why not sprinkle the dwarf eggs with it? Why shouldn’t the dwarves experience love as well?
(personally, I think they do – and that the Blue Fairy is manipulating them, maybe just to keep them working.)
March 4, 2013 at 1:24 am in reply to: 2007?? What is the basis of this and is it still true? #176636stefParticipantAm bumping this because a 2007-2008 date for the events of OUAT might be a shout-out to LOST.
Emma arrives in Storybrooke in November 2007. The Losties return to the Island for their final big-boss battle showdown about the same time.
Emma breaks the curse for good in early 2008 (late Feb or early Mar.) The big bad guy in LOST (the “man in black”) is defeated around that time as well, and a new leader/protector of the Island is chosen (Hurley, played by Jorge Garcia.)
In other words, the two timelines are close enough for me to wonder if it’s another LOST reference.
(dates are from the Lostpedia web site timeline (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline:2005_and_beyond); they’re not exact calendar dates but are close enough.)
stefParticipantI wonder if:
The “real world” outside of Storybrooke is the same “universe” in which LOST takes place (Apollo bars; an airline called Ajira; another plane flying overhead with a symbol which looks very much like Oceanic Airlines.)
If it is, and since the LOST-verse is definitely “magical” (or at least has so many unexplained and unusual things that they might as well be magic), this would imply that the “real world” also is magical even before the FTL people arrive.
stefParticipantDoor #10 is kind of Egyptian-ish (or so it looks from the photo.)
Egyptian mythology and imagery were big on LOST; maybe this door leads to the LOST Island. 😉
stefParticipant@jessista wrote:
Ok, see but the problem I have with the magic = evil thing is this–where does that leave Emma? She has magic that is part of her. She didn’t ask for it, didn’t pursue it, she simply was born that way (reference intentional).
Maybe the magic that is simply part of Emma’s natural existence is not corrupting.
Similarly, the giants grow magic beans, but didn’t seem (in the short time we saw them) to be corrupted by their association with the beans’ magic.
Wouldn’t it be better for her to control it than to let it act on its own? In the fight against Cora/Regina/etc, wouldn’t it be better for her to use this powerful tool against them? After all, Emma’s magic comes from true love, which is the cure for curses–can true love corrupt? Can something resulting from true love be evil by nature?
Love of course is not evil by nature. But if the exercise of magic (for the good cause of love) leads to terrible pride, then maybe it’s better not used at all.
stefParticipant@Gypsy wrote:
I like that, Marilou. I noticed some things LOST related in S1, as well. Other than the fun little visual nods (Apollo bars, McCutheon Whiskey…)….seemed like Gold pulled a “long con” on Emma in Desperate Souls. Emma and August’s conversation at the well was reminiscent of Jack/Locke – Man of Science/Man of Faith.
Speaking of long cons, in some respects LOST was about a very long con (the Man in Black trying to find a “loophole” to kill his brother Jacob, Protector of the Island.) We the viewers thought we knew what was going on, until it became clear that we didn’t.
Maybe OUAT is going to be similar. In other words, all things point to Rumple/Gold running the curse con. But maybe someone (“the man/woman behind the curtain?”) is actually running Rumple.
stefParticipantI have been thinking about this “beans got away from us” thing too.
Perhaps the beans are like other enchanted objects in stories, in that the beans kind of go where they want.
Or have ways of protecting / taking care of themselves.
stefParticipantWhat I find so interesting about Leroy is that “dwarves aren’t supposed to be able to love,” yet over and over the dwarves act in loving ways.
And yes, I want Nova and Grumpy to get a happy ending, too.
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