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@Surayya wrote:
@steliokontos1 wrote:
Would Emma calling Snow “mom” in that last one be asking for too much too soon?
She didn’t call her mom she called her MM tho?
If you mean at the very end when they start to take them to the pit- then she say’s ‘No!’ not ‘mom’ 🙂
I cant wait for the Snow/Emma/FTL storyline- Cant wait to see how it plays out 😀Loving poor Charming being in over his head with everyone, when all he wants is to find Snow & Emma- especially with a very enthusiastic Henry trying to help him lol
As for the Bolas (your lost reff)- they are an ancient hunting tool & weapon used to bring down large prey/ enemies by entangling their legs or knocking them out…… so it just makes sense they’d have used bolas, it’s not like they are going to kill off Snow by throwing a spear at her to stop them escaping after all lol
No I know she didn’t say it but I’m saying is it asking too much to want Emma to yell out “mom” instead of Mary Margaret when she gets popped with the bolas by Mulan? C’mon how cool would that have been 😀
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@Kiwi wrote:
So one thing that has bugged me for a while is travel using Jeffersons hat, and the 1st episode of Season 2 just made it worse.
When Regina used the hat in Season 1 to retrieve her poison apple, it seemed like Jefferson opened a portal to a point in the past – effectively time travel. Regina existed here in Storybrooke (the present) and in Fairytale Land (the past), at the same time, linked by the hat. So at the moment she used the hat to get the apple, that was clearly a point in Regina’s past. Getting Snow to eat the apple definitely happened in Regina’s past.
Yet when Regina used the hat in ‘Broken’, it sent them to a Fairy Tale land that was concurrent with our worlds time. Why didn’t it send them back to a point like in Season 1 – ie the past.
I suppose you could sum it up by saying why didn’t Storybrroke Emma & Snow pop up on the hill next to where Fairytale Land Regina was giving the poison apple to Fairytale Land Snow? Snow White from Storybrooke could have said hello to her Fairytale Land verison of herself. It just doesn’t make any sense.
For that matter, if Regina had have had more magic when she went to retrieve the apple in season one, she could theoretically have used the hat to open a portal big enough to travel fully through (like when they went to wonderland). Does that mean she could have visited her past self?
All this is just very confusing. Can the hat time travel? Or does it just port between worlds? And what’s up with time between the worlds? When the hat was used one time it retrieved things from the past, yet another time sent people to world that now matched our worlds time. And if it can time travel, I just hope 4 or 5 seasons down the line they use the hat as a plot device to undo all the events we have watched. I think a time traveling hat is a terrible idea and they should clear this up quickly.
Cheers,
Kiwi.
Yes the hat can time travel, it takes you to whatever world or time in that world you want. She was trying to retrieve the apple so they opened a portal back in time, this time she was trying to open a portal to the present of the EF which she thought was an oblivion but there’s actually what remains of the EF. They haven’t explored the limits of the time travel thing they’ll probably go into it later on but maybe there’s some kind of paradox thing that won’t allow them to travel to a time where they already exist.
@Marilou wrote:
ok, major LOST reference! whatever is called what Mulan threw at Snow is the same thing the “others” threw at the survivor of the middle section to capture them when they were pretending to not be very civilized. The survivor in the tail of the plane also had a “pit” where they put in Sawyer, Jin and Michael. They used it cleverly throwing in the mix one of their own pretending to be just as confused, as a way to obtain information.
Yeah that does all echo Lost, I don’t know her name on the show but Michelle Rodriguez was the leader pretending to be captured to obtain information when they throw them all in a hole.I hope the don’t stay with that long 😐
@Oncer wrote:
Oh poor James! I would of screamed bloody murderer and run away!
You mean for the Gramps thing? Well he did seem to take off pretty fast after Henry said that 😀
@slurpeez108 wrote:
^ All good points, regarding whether Regina knew FTL existed or not. Regina must’ve known something still existed, otherwise, as you pointed out, Surayya, otherwise the hat simply would’ve failed to connect. When she told Prince Charming and Snow White that FTL was gone, what she meant was that the land as they knew it was gone. I think she might have been exaggerating to dissuade them from even attempting to find a way back, in a last ditch effort to keep everyone unhappy about being in SB. Regina may have thought FTL remained, but only in a destructed and uninhabitable form. She may not know about the “safe haven” or the survivors. She may really not know if Emma and Snow are alive. Also, I think Regina’s conversation about Jefferson returning to his hovel in the Enchanted Forest, was just her way of mocking him. I doubt she was serious about being able to return there.
Speaking of Jefferson, based on the Canadian spoiler for 2×2, I’m really excited to find out how Jefferson knows for certain that Emma and Snow White were sent to the Enchanted Forest. Yet, why can’t he go there? And is he being entirely truthful about being unable to return? There is a left-over mystery that has been bugging me since 1×17 Hat Trick. When Jefferson fell out the window, did he fall into the hat that Emma made him and into the Enchanted Forest? He seemed to disappear, and it’d be fantastic if he now has another hat portal that works! Maybe he wants to keep this a secret.
Also, Rumpel surprised me in that promo. He asks Charming what happens when someone crosses the SB boarder and seemed dismayed by Charming’s reply that you lose your memories of your old life. Didn’t Rumpel know what would happen, and wasn’t he planning a trip? In 1×21 he said to Regina, “we all know what happens when you try to leave SB” but then didn’t say what actually happens. Was he bluffing or did he not know exactly and was testing Regina? I don’t know.
Regina may have been assuming that the hat was connected to nothing in this instance because she wanted to get rid of the wraith. From the new sneak peek we know Jefferson can’t return to fairy tale land because the hat was destroyed. That left open ending from Hat Trick is also on my mind so I hope we get a little more resolution to that. I was sure Emma’s hat worked, how he disappeared so quickly and of course that whoosh sound as the Hatter is falling. Maybe after the curse was broken the consequences for leaving changed? So the new consequence was unknown to Rumple…
@Hannah97 wrote:
Yay! That was awesome. Henry called him gramps! 😆 I love it!
I know right? Gramps?! That’s just awesomeI can’t believe Mulan has Emma and Snow tied up like that! It seems like all the residents of Storybrooke are gonna be like Jefferson with two lives in their heads maybe that’s why it’s called “We are Both”
Wow I love Sneak peeks! The first one funny as hell, 2nd one interesting how PC refers to David as a different person and another funny moment of Henry calling him Gramps lol, and of course one to reel you in but wow does Snow look like a badass
As fun as it’s gonna be to see how Emma and Snow reconnect and start to bond I hope down the line Emma gets to bond with her dad too. Henry is gonna get to be close to his grandfather and that’s cool but Emma and David weren’t all that close in season 1 and now they start off apart once again. I wonder how it would have been if it had been Charming that followed through the portal and Snow was left behind with Henry? Of course that would now leave Snow in charge of the town as it looks like David is gonna have to take charge but still.
