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surayya
ParticipantOK, THIS is what I love about the CS troops…we can have a seriously detailed plot conversation, meet in the shallow end with drinks (make mine Iced tea all the way from Longgg Island~grin) AND laugh our self-deprecating tushes off over some seriously twisted- clever and irreverant gifs…all on one page of the thread
Not a bad place to spend the hiatus, eh?
Haha, well said *Cheers* 😀 😉
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ParticipantOn this episode of Real Husbands of Storybrooke
Heee heee
LOLOLOL! Love it, thanks for sharing 😀
Found this on Eala’s tumblr. She needs to get back here!!!
I don’t have any words……..http://i-love-you-swan.tumblr.com//quote
LMAO – Night at the Roxbury
Oh, poop! whatever it was has been removed 🙁
A&E didn’t give Neal much character depth from day one, which is not MRJ’s fault. But even so, as charming as he was in appealing to teenaged Emma, I felt he mailed in his performances in Neverland and some of his delivery lines were mediocre at best. Perhaps he already knew the outcome for his character, but I just didn’t see the intensity. Morrison ached her heart out in the Echo Cave and his *I will never give up (sic)…” line afterward was flat , shallow and vividly out of place considering the acting going on around him in those scenes.
THIS! Here have a box of hooky cookies 🙂
Hook, even when being a bit of a prick, did everything with a deep level of brooding passion or sincere rapscallion sass. Like him or not, he made/makes his scenes come alive with emotion. He CAUSED/causes attention and emotions on a very high level. That is TV GOLD.
What can I say… HELL YES!!! Colin is right up there with JMo in his emotive acting skills & I found when MRJ was acting alongside JMo, he came off very, umm…. unequal to the task- just my personal opinion, but for me it was even more blatantly obvious when you throw the rest of the cast into the mix- Lana, Robert, Ginny & Josh.
When Hook remained quiet in the face of Emma’s snarkish stoicism, well, that was obviously his choice! It was the long haul he talked about. It was not at all attractive of Emma and made some of us what to kick her in the butt, but Hook was the one taking that attitude. He could have walked if it bothered him that much. He chose to take it. He felt the payoff was worth it.
Yes, this too.
surayya
ParticipantI would think the adjustments for Hook after Colin broke his leg were more time related than character or plot related ( though I hate to use both of the words Plot and Character any more because of the rabid excuses delusionally spewed by anti Hook crusaders to try and explain why every OUAT should be 100% Neal driven)
“Time” meaning they put off a bit what they wanted to do, time wise, but not story wise.
I feel they had the premise of everything Hook laid out quite plainly in their minds regarding who Hook was becoming and how he was going to get there. It would have been great to see Bae/Hook reactions…if Bae had been portrayed decently as an adult. But that didn’t come to be. I still don’t see the brooding, dark little boy in surfer dude Neal at all. I don’t think Neal had much of anything to do with Hook during season 2. Hook was still driven by raging revenge against Rumple.
For me, the two grown men didn’t even exist in the same brain cels for Emma. Neal was all past/pain/resentment/anger and Hook was all present/future/avoiding emotions, sass and whacking him on the head (ha)
Good lord, I can quote now!!!!!!!! YAAAAAAAAY!!!!
Now back to business -I agree- esp with the time point you make, it’s what I feel as well.
I think we would have seen Hook progress character wise, to the point he was at in 3b, during the back half of S2 had Colin not broken his leg. Which is why I think they had Hook chill out a lot in back half of S2 (they couldnt get Colin on screen enough to redeem Hook’enough’ in time for where he needed to be for S3 otherwise).Found this on Eala’s tumblr. She needs to get back here!!!
I don’t have any words……..
…….BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is friggn hilarious!
Hook apologising to Belle was a must do in order to get me to like him. I liked his apology, I’ve seen complaints about it being insincere but I disagree, it was an in-character apology from a character who openly admitted a few episodes before that he doesn’t apologise often. The fact that he did apologise says a lot. I liked that Belle accepted it without rolling over, it showed she wasn’t a push over. Hook isn’t a sappy person therefore a sappy apology wouldn’t suit him. I don’t think his apology was just a show for Emma, Belle called him out in front of people, he probably felt uncomfortable because he knew he was in the wrong with what he did to Belle, and knowing you’re in the wrong in front of people is a very uncomfortable and awkward situation.
I agree with this, it was totally in character for both characters & while yes, I think Emma did have ‘words’ with Killy about clearing the air with Belle before they went to see her (I’m sure Killy would have pointed out he’d caused her harm in the past, so he’d unlikely be ‘welcomed’ into Gold’s store by Belle), Emma didnt “Force” him to appologise, he chose to, which as you say he doesnt do often, so should be taken for what it is supposed to be- Sorry.
The “people only like Hook because he’s attractive” argument holds no weight because, whilst he is easy on the eyes, that alone is not enough to make you like a character (also practically all of the male cast members on the show are attractive in some way (Rumple and Hook are constantly voted as the top 2 sexiest, most handsome, etc males on the show). Attractiveness alone is not enough to make you like a character. The best example to use is David and James. Both are played by the reasonably handsome Josh Dallas, yet you don’t hear anyone saying “OMG James is so hot!!! He should’ve been the centre of the show because he’s so attractive.” You mostly hear “James was a bit of a douchebag”. Hook has fans because of his personality which has improved considerably since his introduction.
YEP! *Nods in agreement*
Some CS fans have claimed that Hook has demonstrated “real love” for Emma because he still stuck by her even when she was verbally abusive to him in 3B. However I disagree with that opinion. 1. Emma hasn’t been verbally abusive towards Hook. She’s been blunt (she has her father’s tact) and whilst it was a bit harsh her saying that Zelena should’ve cursed the lips of someone she actually intended to kiss (Hook was stood right there Emma you could’ve been a bit less blunt on that matter), Emma never set out to deliberately hurt Hook’s feeling or diminish his self-esteem or sense of self-worth. 2. IF Emma had been abusive towards Hook, then why would you route for that sort of relationship for your favourite character? Why wouldn’t you want him to find someone else who treated him with respect and deserved him instead of someone who abused him? An abusive relationship is not “real love”.
Yes, I have to agree with you here as well- Emma was not abusive towards Hook, she was more than a little cruel in her harshness towards him on more than one occasion, but girl had her walls up trying to distance herself from him & everyone else she knew in SB to try ‘protect herself’. Was she ‘mean’ yes, but I dont consider her abusive o.O
Also agree that its more than a little twisted (thinking wise), to consider someone putting up with or sticking out, even verbal abuse as proof of ‘real/true love’ 🙁 Oats, Neal’s treatment of Emma is what sunk SF for me, if Emma did that to Killy (or vise versa), with such a poor, butt backward, lame excuse, I seriously doubt I could ship them either. It kind of sickens me to think there are people out there saying stuff like that.I am interested to see how CS progresses next year. They’ve gone past the will they won’t they phase so now the writers need to give CS some actual storylines as a couple. Hopefully we’ll get a new set next year of Emma and Henry’s new apartment, Hook may not live there permanently but he’ll probably have his own toothbrush.
YES! Can it be S4 yet!?!
surayya
Participantobisgirl:
I had a thought about season two, if Colin hadn’t broken his leg what the story would have been like. With the introduction of Neal as Emma’s baby daddy, we probably would have gotten some sort of love triangle. And I remembered, we sorta of had a very brief love triangle in the Enchanted Forest with Aurora/Phillip/Mulan and I wonder if that was meant to parallel Neal/Emma/Hook in some manner?
What do you guys think?Agreed, I think they had to scale back Hook’s role in the storyline a great deal, in fact I think most of what we got in 3a, was supposed to happen in the back half of S2.
surayya
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@callmeLolaBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
surayya
ParticipantNot CS persay, but I had to have a giggle at this one 😉
surayya
ParticipantSorry I’ve not been posting guys- SOOOOOOOOOO busy atm & have a treatment this weekend which will have me off work for 5dys, so plan of hitting the thread on Sun & getting abck on track with posting regular graphics for all to enjoy during the looooooooong hiatus 🙂
I’ll hit a few posts from the last few pages all at once here:
Yep, agree with CS being endgame- seriously cant see them killing Killy off at all. He’s right up there in the fandom with Rumple now & Killy is still ABC’s golden boy 😉
I’d have to go against the grain with wanting a musical episode- I hate them, as more often than not, they end up just being a gimmick & sucking lol (sure a few shows have pulled them off, but not many 😉 )
hahaha Love the goodmorning SB & Real husbands of SB pics/gifs callmeLola 🙂
Still getting around to reading screwballninja’s meta 😉
LOVE your pics KillianJones- esp the 2nd ones 😀
Last but not least, here are some pretties 🙂
surayya
ParticipantI enjoyed this condensed CS journey vid 🙂
hehe, what will I be watching (over winter)….
The back half of (think most if not all of these are only 12-13eps long & most are already up to ep8-9 🙁 ):
Game of Thrones
Believe
Continuum
Crisis
The 100
Orphan BlackAs for what will be on over winter (again all of these are 1/2 season shows of 10-12eps):
Sleepy Hollow
Witches of Eastend (my guilty pleasure lol)
Falling Skies
Switched at Birth
Defiance& I will do full re-watch of both Arrow & of Once.
surayya
ParticipantTo answer one of your Frozen questions @Bo-Peeps
Was that the Snow Queen, or Frozen’s Elsa, in the final moments?
Adam Horowitz: That was Elsa.So you’ll base the character on Frozen and not the original fairy tale?
Horowitz: We are dealing with the world of Frozen. We are honored to be allowed to do it. We loved the movie. We fell in love with it when it came out last year like everyone did, and we want to do our best to do it justice.
Eddy Kitsis: [What] we loved so much about the character of Elsa was that she was considered a villain but she never really was. She was misunderstood. That, on our show, speaks to us so strongly, that it was a toy we had to play with. It’s funny because I see lots of people [saying] “Oh! Did Disney ask them to do this?” It’s quite the opposite. It’s actually quite hard to get these characters on the show. It’s not like you get a call from Mickey Mouse saying, “I want you to sell mermaids this week.” It’s the opposite. It’s very hard to get these. We were very honored that Disney allowed us to take this toy off the shelf and let us play with it.CS stuff from A&E finale interview 🙂
Another big moment was Hook and Emma coupling up. What’s in store for them?
Kitsis: We know Emma’s a tough one, and I think we want to explore exactly that: What does it mean? What does it mean now? Is it a kiss or is it more? If it is more, how does Emma feel about starting a relationship after just destroying one?
We also have to talk about Present-Day Hook punching Past himself in the Enchanted Forest in the Past. Did you want a clone scene?
Kitsis: We loved the idea of Hook being jealous of himself. We wanted Hook to punch himself.
Horowitz: And kissing Emma. It was a fun moment for us, but there was a serious subtext to it, which is that it’s Hook looking back on the man he was. He’s another character who’s evolved some. He knows that that Hook with Emma is not something he wants to see.http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/once-a-time-finale-frozen-elsa-season-4-703314
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