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@HappyEndings wrote:

Sorry, I have bad eyes thanks for the blue pointer 🙂

😉 I get ya, I have the worst eye sight & only picked it up because I was watching it on the big screen 😆

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@HappyEndings wrote:

Ok, back on that hand with the gun now I am wondering if that is Emma because I betcha she told Bae about the beans and he told Tamara. Now the question is how did Tamara get the bean and how did she find it? ❓

I already posted photos showing it is indeed Emma’s hand- JMo has the birthmark/freckle thing on her index finger 😉

screen shot
http://screencapped.net/tv/onceuponatime/displayimage.php?album=951&pid=1104596#top_display_media
Edited to add pix

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Our heroes' obstacles include Tamara and Greg, whose agenda will soon be spelled out (“We intend to answer that mystery, but it's really about what it means for Emma, Regina, Snow and everyone,” says Horowitz)

I’m so glad Hook wasn’t named there, not that it excludes him altogether; but it seems GOAT are in a whole other league of their own 😉

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I personally doubt they’d all stay in NL forever- it’s just where they believe Henry has been taken, so thats where they are heading to.
It’s not truly home for any of them- they are all from FTL.

I do think it could be interesting to reverse the order we’ve seen to date & have SB become the Flashback part of the story, with NL &/or FTL being the present day plot- I’m open to it anyway 😉

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@Sarah_TN wrote:

Well said, and exactly! I think that’s exactly where the Hook hate comes from. The take Once Upon A Time has on this version of Captain Hook is absolutely ingenious! He’s so complex, so deep, and the room that they have to use him is something I’ve often compared to leggo blocks. He’s a great leggo block with lots of points for other things to attach to and build from off of. I hope we have Captain Hook around not only in season 3, but for the remainder of the show. His character is that good, and I think he’s that big a compliment to the show. Like I’ve said before, Cinnamon toast is called “Cinnamon toast”, not “Cinnamon and Sugar toast”. It’d taste pretty rotten without the sugar, though. Same thing with Captain Hook. It’s not he Hook show, but without him, it’s kind of bland.

I agree with you 100%, LOVE this version of Hook & without him, the show just doesn’t do it for me anymore- He is what got me back into the show & has kept me here for the very reasons you give (although not having Hook for the last 9ish eps has made it very hard to stay interested, so I had to take a break & get caught back when I thought he’d be in ep18 🙁 ), add in the Hook/Emma chemistry & hints we’ve been getting from cast & creators on a possible pairing & I’m all aboard for the rest of S2 & S3 😆 Like you say he bring’s so much depth & richness to the story.

Love your leggo block comparison- it’s so true! 😎

The cinnamon toast thing is a very good point – I LOVE cinnamon & add it to everything- I’ve been addicted to the stuff for a good 23-24yrs lol, but cinnamon on it’s own = gross. 😆

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@AllThatGlitters wrote:

I think in S3 they are going to be showing a different side to Hook. Right now, he is deemed a “villain” so some people don’t like him. Most people didn’t like Rumpel until his backstory was shown. People might change their tune about Hook.

I don’t like when people want to say things on this thread that they know will rile up people who ship CaptainSwan. Can we just refrain from doing that to any ship threads? Everyone is entitled to opinions, I get that. If you say your opinion in a respectful way, I think it would be more welcomed.

I too hope so. I really would like to see how Killian became a pirate & how he came to have such a strong moral code (for a pirate)…. I kind of wonder what happened to have him become this anti-hero type pirate, rather than a pirate like hero. The guy has all the qualities of a hero personality- bravery (he isn’t afraid to for fight or die for what he wants & believes in), honesty (he hasn’t lied so far), morals (he wont kill for the sake of simply killing, it always has a purpose & doesn’t take pleasure from others pain- Rumple aside) etc I sometimes wonder if Charming himself would be very different from Killian if he turned dark 😉
I also think it’s what attracts Emma to him in some ways- he is very hero like, the capacity for ‘good guy’ is there, but also has these dark shades, so he’s not too perfect- if that makes sense 😕 😉

I also think a lot of Hook hate comes from the fact it is Rumple he’s out to get- they love Rumple, Belle & Bae, so anyone who challenges those characters is ‘bad’ for them.

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@HappyEndings wrote:

@craxyfox wrote:

noone’s perfect 😉

Hook actually never put Emma in jail, if I recall correctly, Neal was the one that did that 😆

Hey, left her in Rumbles cell in FL with Snow, Aurora and Mulan.

He wasn’t the one to actually put her there tho- that was cora & Cora’s plan. The only reason Hook went with it, is Emma betrayed/hurt him by leaving him up the beanstalk & in FTL, so it wasn’t that simple + if you watch those scenes, he looks at the floor an awful lot & is not gloating or looking happy to be having to team back up with Cora nor with what she was doing- A&E have already said he was being honest when her told her he wouldn’t have done that to her.

Hook also owned up to his role in the whole thing- immediately & said why.

Neal was supposed to LOVE Emma, yet he hasn’t bothered to give Emma any explanations, he hasn’t bothered apologized for having her “wrongly” imprisoned for HIS crime, nor has he apologized for abandoning her afterwards either or hurting her. I know who I’d be more inclined to forgive of the 2 & it isn’t Neal.

Should have read pg 51 1st- I agree with & have repeated most of what Crazyfox has already pointed out! 😆

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@HappyEndings wrote:

I hope not, Hook slept with her Grandmother for petes sakes.

1) steliokontos1 is correct.

2) (As it’s worth repeating) Milah isn’t even blood related to Emma, so who gives a toss what happened 300+yrs ago!

4) Emma has already shared a passionate kiss with her own step-granny’s love-toy & no-one goes around trashing Graham &/or Emma for it 🙄

5) Incest = Sexual relations between persons who are so closely related that their marriage is illegal or forbidden by custom- Your son’s, father’s, father’s, ex wife’s lover from 300 yrs ago, does not add up to incest or a morally wrong couple. 🙄

6) If stuff like that is an issue for couples getting together on Once- no one would have a chance of finding happiness, because they all have twisted/murderous connections everywhere- this show’s backstory is over 300yrs long- plenty of other ‘coupled’ characters could be related through marriage & law 1way or the other.

7) This is the most important point! This is The CaptainSwan thread, if you don’t ship them, you don’t need to comment. Otherwise comments like the one quoted, can only be assumed to be in order to cause arguments/ negativity & therefore are trolling, it’s really that simple. There are plenty of other ship threads where you can negativity comment on CaptainSwan if you so desire- this is not that place.

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Not sure if this has already been shared or not, but here is what JMo said when asked if there’s anything going on:

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@NONNIE wrote:

@Surayya wrote:

Oh, that’s right- I forgot about that, thank you 🙂

I agree, it’s far to important to leave out & A&E promised (o.k, so that’s stretching a little 😉 ) they’d tell that story.
Yep, It has to have been Blue & the fairies who wrote the book (I’ve been singing that song since S1 lol), I just want the details of how exactly she got it into MM hands- my no.1 theory is she enchanted it 😉

It is just as likely they will kill off a NEW CHARACTER rather than a regular … ie Robin Hood or Sheriff of Nottingham or someone else in EF. I think that is more likely then to have someone that is central to the core story.

I probably didnt reference that very well- I was referring to the Once Upon a Time book, not the death.
Yeah, I’m not as worried about the death as I thought I would be, as like you say, I highly doubt we’ll loose any of the 9 characters that are most central to the show right now 😉

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