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surayya
ParticipantLike others have said- for sure it is Tamara being bodyslamed, I have next to no doubts there (I will always have that 0.01% doubt- unless 1) The shot is in clear, clean detail & shows whoever doing whatever in a single scene. 2) Until I actually see it play out on the show).
It’s the hand holding the gun debate now π lol
All I know, for reasons I’ve already pointed out…with pretty pictures too π π is that the hand is not Hook’s, of that I’m 99.99999999999% sure (as sure as I am that it’s Tamara being body slammed).
It could be Tamara, I cant get a good look at her jacket sleeves or it could be Regina, there is also a slim chance it’s Owen (he has a black woolen jacket from memory)…. but it’s most likely Emma (I’m almost certain at this point), given the clothing she is wearing in the those sets of scenes- you can almost make out the exact same style of sleeve, including the rolled ends/cuff in the still of her facing the camera, while in the throws of body slamming Tamara.
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Participant@KFChimera wrote:
@Emma-Bae-Henry wrote:
I like the idea of Regina and Hook. I think they both have capacities to be good.. They are just so similar in burying themselves in revenge for losing love ones. For me, they are a very good looking bunch. Like it was posted in this thread earlier that they will be “hot” couple. Well, I am Rumpel’s fan…. He would say they will be “spicy one” π
I definitely see the parallels between Regina and Hook. Was there any chemistry (ease and banter) or attraction between them in the few scenes they have together? I did not see any, but then I think they both have lessons to learn that they could not learn together. It might be spicy but in that Cora/Rumpelle vein of a dark destructive thing if paired together at this point. It would be more screen time for Hook but I am not sure it would be comfortable to watch if they dragged each other into more darkness.
Yeah, I’d really dislike to see Regina & Hook together.
Agree with KF- they had no chemistry that I saw at all & it would just be plain uncomfortable to watch- like watching Regina hit on David π …. *shudders*Regina would do better with someone innately ‘chilled, kind & more introverted/quiet’ to support her, she is well damaged from being Cora’s daughter, to the point of convincing herself 10 yr old Snow was responsible for the death of Daniel, despite Cora killing Daniel in front of her own eyes- pretty sure she takes the ‘most screwed up award’ on Once so far & that’s not an easy title to claim lol π π π π
Personally I think Neal’s character would do better for Regina (as things stand now), than Hook’s- he’s to …’big/ gregarious & honor bound’ in personality for her- Hook’s reaction to Emma betraying him at the top of the beanstalk was genuine & what he told her in the cell was also true- he wouldn’t have left her up there, so Hook & Regina would be a total train wreak by day 2 given their personalities.
surayya
Participant@Sarah_TN wrote:
If we get Captain Hook through season 3, I will make this promise right here, right now: I will never miss another episode! I’ll DVR it if I have to, but I will not miss it!
Oh, I’m so with you on that!!! I will even pinky swear it! π
Hook is my fav too- it was Emma & Snow, now it’s Hook/Killian & Emma.
There is also the intriguing Hook/Neal dynamic to consider. In real life, Colin OβDonoghue and Michael Raymond-James became fast friends. We want to know what their on-screen history is. Does Neal know that Hook loved Nealβs mother (and took her away from her life with him and Rumple)? Do they have a history in Neverland? Weβre supposed to discover their backstory in the first part of the two-part finale, but we want more now!
The thing I have against this article is- it’s incorrect. Killian (he wasn’t Hook at that stage, so I think keeping them separate is important), didn’t “take” Bae’s mother away from him- she fled Rumple under her own steam.
Never has Killian been portrayed as actually kidnapping Milah- it has been the opposite, she ran away after meeting them all at the… ‘pub/tavern’ place & falling in love with their stories of adventure & far off lands- something she wanted, something she tried to get Rumple to listen to, but he wouldn’t, so she left for her own good, as she couldn’t live life in the same small village, the wife of a coward, any longer- she laid it all out for us in ep 4.
Do I think it right of her to leave like she did- not a chance…but it was her CHOICE to make, not Killian’s.
I do agree with their last 2 statements- I want to see Hook’s backstory & Neal & Hook’s backstory … yesterday! π
surayya
Participant@Ser_Dragon wrote:
I really don’t think it’s Emma holding Neal at gun point. Sorry but it would be stupid and jumping the shark point for me. since we haven’t saw the episode yet, obviously, what make most sense for me, right now, is that Tamara is threatening Neal and Emma come to the rescue. Hence her bodyslaming her.
Meh, You are as entitled to your opinion as anyone else is, but not even close to jumping the shark given their past & Emma’s trust issues- esp were Neal is concerned.
The point is, the evidence (clothing) doesn’t fit for Hook – he only has the one costume (which hasn’t changed from the promo & set pics- so it’s not him for sure, there is no way you can twist that to be leather with a loose, ruffled cotton, pirate shirt sleeve sticking out the cuff).
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http://media-cache-ec3.pinterest.com/192x/09/d8/88/09d888a86f39abef7bed74e270088ec8.jpg
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/356/1/f/captain_hook___killian_jones_by_venerka-d5os1im.jpg
http://katykonservativ.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/captain-hook-killian-jones-captain-hook-32569773-2000-1333.jpg
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There are 1000’s like the above- in every position, you see the loose, flowing pirate shirt, sticking out of his massive jacket cuffs & in the screen cap of the hand holding the gun, it is a sweater type material/density with a rolled cuff- point blank, modern clothes.
The pic’s of Tamara being body slammed show her wearing a lycra/polyester type jacket thing- granted none are close enough to get a really good look at the sleeves, but from the ‘body’ of the jacket, it doesn’t appear to be her sleeve, but that is more likely than it being Hooks hand, if the material was looser or the cuff massive with a pattern, then I’d say it is or could be Hook.As already pointed out, it could also be Regina, as she is wearing a black jacket, which may have small cuffs/ rolled sleeves.
surayya
ParticipantThere should be a compass on the Jolly Roger- it’s a old sailing ship- that would answer that question π
Also & I cant double check this right now as I my S1 of Once is on another HD, but didn’t Blue give young Bae a ‘green’ bean, while Hook used a clear/translucent bean- maybe different beans take you different places? Aside from that, I agree with Phee- they take you were you ‘want’ to go.Wow, just WOW! Have finished reading all 101 pages over 2 days & my head’s spinning from so much info, in so little time lol π
surayya
Participant@Ser_Dragon wrote:
Wow HappyEndings, you could be on something there. What if Hook and/or Tamara are brainwashing Regina to set a trap for Emma and Co? After brainwashing her they could release her so that she could embark with Charming Gang then once at sea they would take over Emma and Co?
I actually think it might be Emma pointing the gun at Neal.
But why would she do that to Neal? Why would she point a gun at him? It make absolutely no sense.
I guess it does IF Emma believes he’s ‘with’ Tamara & Neal isn’t clued in ‘yet’ to what she is up to, or if he gets between Emma & Tamara ie, rushes to Tamara’s aid & Emma feel’s threatened so pulls the gun on him (you have to remember Neal caused & left Emma with some pretty deep wounds- she wants to trust, but to her core she cant/ wont take the chance of getting that hurt again, no matter how much time has past, she still hasn’t had any closure for those wounds, only his brush off about it all at this point & her 1st priority is protecting Henry, then herself & family)
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Participant@HappyEndings wrote:
You know that could be Hook with the gun he is wearing black.
I also think Hook will save Regina only so he can use her to get to Gold π And Hook’s hand on the dial on the machine.
Hook is always in leather & leather with loose cotton sleeves & the sleeve neither looks leather or loose cotton (I will go back & chuck the pic up on the big screen TV, but on here it looks nothing like them at all), it looks to be a more coarse, open weaved type material (so wool/ knit like in construction) sweater, with a rolled back/double cuff.
Tamara is wearing a tight weave jacket, so it isn’t her, Regina is in a jacket, but I haven’t noticed what weave it is- I don’t think it’s coarse enough tho, but I maybe mistaken & will have to check (Who would have thought researching fabrics for more breathable saddle blankets & rugs would lead on to being able to figure out who’s holding a gun at someones head from their sleeve lol π )I wont say it cant be Hook’s hand on the machine, but right now we don’t know if said hand is turning machine on or off/ up or down, so for me ‘that’ hand is of less importance atm π At this stage the hand could belong to any fair skinned male on the show (Hook & Owen being the top 2 contenders) π
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Participant@Sarah_TN wrote:
Well the first thing she’s going to have to see, is the real Hook underneath the tough exterior his personality fronts in response to his own insecurity. She’ll need to see what really matters to him and I don’t mean Milah, I mean deeper than Miliah. Connected to that will be the reason why while what happened to Milah was wrong and horrible, he wasn’t able to let her go. She will have to see his vulnerabilities. She’ll need to see that he really is more than “Captain Hook” that he’s more than a macho guy with an attitude, that he’s a human being with feelings, with scars, and that like her, he needs love. It’s interesting he mentioned she’s had far too little love in her life on that beanstalk, because I think that’s him. She needs to see the human Hook. To do that, something’s going to have to rock his world deeply enough that his shell comes off and when that happens, to him, because of his pride, that kind of exposure will be rather traumatic for him. She’ll need to help him pick up the pieces when that happens. Sometimes, a person can’t look up until they’ve hit rock bottom. They climbed up a beanstalk together. They’ll need to climb out of a proverbial tunnel together. That’s the point where their relatonship can begin.
Agree with this too.
Also it is worth pointing out, that simply put, Hook’s OTT flirting is no different than Emma’s standoff-ness- it’s just the opposite end of the same form of self defense to keep themselves from being hurt deeply again. No one will truly see Killian until that wall is cracked & striped off & the same applies to Emma.
The thing is they both connected almost immediately & ended up getting more out of each other, than anyone else has, on their climb up the bean stalk. It’s that connection with someone that allows you to take that next step & so on & so forth. With Emma “she couldn’t take the risk that she was wrong in trusting Hook” as it was Henry on the line, she feels that connection & it scares her deeply. Who better to help you open up & understand you point of view, than someone who knows exactly what you are going through? π
If CaptianSwan doesn’t happen (aside from crying & ending up eating WAY to much honey & cinnamon popcorn), I’d say that Killian & Emma would have to in the very least end up best friends considering the connection they have- they ‘get’ each other like no one else can π
Edited to add- No idea where that photo came from sorry…
surayya
ParticipantThanks for the upload to youtube Kranen π
I’m with it being Tamara receiving that epic body slam from Emma, camp π
Also think the hand holding the gun on Neal is Emma’s for the reasons Kranen stated, the clothing doesn’t fit for Tamara, Hook or Owen + the hand looks female π
I have to wonder what Neal has managed to do, to lead Emma to pull a gun on him tho- it has to be something to do with Henry… It cant be him taking Henry away, because they’d already planned on him & Tamara doing that in the last ep, I just cant imagine why she would hold a gun to his head, unless he tries to stop her taking out Tamara….or it’s Regina (but I dont think that sleeve matches the jacket Regina is wearing either)…..
Urgh, still 4 & 1/2days to go!
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