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That’s why Emma and Charming reconnecting will probably have to happen sometime down the line. The Henry and Charming relationship look like it’s gonna be fun anyway but down the line I’m looking forward to seeing more of Emma and Charming repairing their relationship.
I really want to see her connect with Charming as well, it will just take some time 🙂
I think it may help Emma and Charming that Charming took care of Henry. Emma will like that and like seeing them together. Though i would imagine there is also sadness in that. Seeing something of what they lost together.
I totally agree with you there 🙂
[adrotate group="5"]surayyaParticipant@Marilou wrote:
@Surayya wrote:
Jury is still out for me, even after that AWESOME sneak peek- I want to know why she does that before I say ‘off with her head’ lol 😉
why she does what?
let’s try to see it on Mulan’s side shall we? The wraith comes and in a series of unfortunate events, lead to the death of Philip. Now in the rumbles of where the wraith came from, you found two women you have never before seen in your life, so you don’t take a chance and tied them up in order to question them later on. you bring them back to camp and they try to run. of course you put them in the pit after a stunt like that!
Mulan’s action are justified.
Ummmm – I didn’t include spoilers because it’s the E1 thread not E2 we are discussing (you may want to black out what happens in the sneak peek in your above post to save spoiling others).
My point was- if you read my post- I’m not disliking her just because she tied them up,knocks out Snow rather than having someone just grab them & then chucks them in a pit, she has her reason’s to want to do that, all of which aren’t entirely known to us yet (aside from ‘thinking’ they are the reason the wraith turned up) & so I haven’t made up my mind. 😉
However there is no rule that says I have to love or even like Once’s version of Mulan just cause she’s not a bad guy 🙄
I don’t hate her yet, so I stand by what I said – the jury is still out for me 😉surayyaParticipant@Ursula wrote:
I also found this handy website where a fan has broken 😛 the episode down into 1,999 frames:
Holy cow That’s a lot of Frames!!!!
October 5, 2012 at 6:35 am in reply to: Regina and Rumplestiltskin-Who’s Worse?Can Either Change? #155546surayyaParticipant@hjbau wrote:
I think they are both equally evil. Though i do think that all of Regina’s evil will be laid squarely at Rumpel’s feet. Meaning none of what happened to her would have happened without his intervention.
I strongly agree with this statement- But I do think Regina is twisted when it comes to Snow in particular, more so than Rumple. I posted this in another thread about Regina:
I would never blame a child for giving up any secret to an adult who purposefully manipulated said child into doing so- that’s all on Cora for me.
Yes, Snow could have asked Regina 1st, but that’s hardly something a motherless, 10yr old, only child is going to do when they’ve never been manipulated by an adult before, esp if it happens to be a female figure who takes an interest in her & then basically starts spouting her (Snow’s) worst fares as their own!
Also Regina never told Snow her mother was a mean spirited (aka evil) person who would force her to marry her father no matter what- she only said they wouldn’t understand & that is what lead Snow to be manipulated into telling all to Cora. Even if Regina didn’t know how evil Cora was- how is that Snow’s fault???I still think Regina blaming Snow instead of her mother is twisted- Snow didn’t kill Daniel, Cora did, Snow didn’t give up the secret to her own father, Cora manipulated it out of her, Snow didn’t arrange for Regina to marry her Father, Cora did. The only common denominator in EVERYTHING is Cora, which Regina is fully aware of & yet Regina still blames Snow = Twisted to me!
I really don’t know how Regina can truly redeem herself, she killed Snow’s father in cold blood & her own- but I still think she is redeemable…..I just don’t know how it could happen yet & be ‘real’ unless she sacrificed herself to save Henry or even better Snow.
Rumples evil grew in him after he took on the Dark ones curse- it’s not his innate nature, he can be redeemed IF he finally gives up his ‘power/curse’ for love.
surayyaParticipant@Frog_Princess wrote:
With the coming introduction of Sir Lancelot there is a possibility that he could be King Arthur also.
Grimm Fairy Tales continues to rewrite history when the story of the good and humble King Midas is retold in horrifying fashion.
Sirens are part of folklore and just because they are not part of the “cinderella” type fairy tale doesnt mean that they are not included in fairy tales from other countries.
Alice in Wonderland is also listed as a fairy tale, I am aware it was a book series by Lewis Carroll however it is still considered a fairy tale.
Mulan was borrowed from another culture and is based on a Chinese fairy tale or folk tale
that is more than 2000 years old.I’m with on not liking the Franky theory … anyone else from Fantasy land is Ok by me – I just REALLY worry the show will screw ball & nose dive if they start trying to add Si Fi elements to it 🙁
I suppose we can only hope that what ever they do- they do it in a way that doesn’t trash the mythology of Once.surayyaParticipant@Josephine wrote:
The best idea I’ve heard yet for Emma and Snow returning, although I know it’s not going to be in this episode, is them flying in on Hook’s ship into Storybrooke Harbor, like they do in the end of Peter Pan.
LOL- Now that would be awesome, but I think they’d have to be there all season to do it that way (unless they weren’t able to make fairy dust in SB at all) otherwise he could just take everyone backwards & forwards as they pleased which would be kind of a let down.
surayyaParticipant@slurpeez108 wrote:
surayya wrote: I’m thinking he may end up being a love interest for Emma as she opens up to love etc- not saying a full on lets get married relationship, but just feeling out relationships in general as she hasn’t really had any
Yes, I agree. The fact that Colin was just upgraded to a series regular further tips the balance in this direction. (In my mind anyway). Just recently, Jennifer Morrison described Emma’s potential suitors, there will be more than one, and they’ll be the ones pursuing her, not the other way around. Jennifer said Emma was a tough nut to crack, but that these suitors would be doing a lot to try to get through her emotional armor. The character description for Hook describes him as a ladies man, with the manners of a proper gentleman but with a troubled past. He sounds like an interesting guy to challenge Emma out of her security net (but hopefully he’ll reform from chasing other women around if he turns out to be a suitor for Emma).
Also, I’m getting the feeling that if Hook is a potential suitor for Emma, that might make him a contender against Baelfire (assuming Bae is a suitor for Emma). If Hook is Baelfire’s true dad, that would be some very extreme drama.
He sure does- I’m really looking forward to seeing how that one plays out…although poor Emma is going to be hit with a lot this season lol
LOL- Not another Bae centred triangle, that’d be the 3rd one now 😉
I’m now not 100% on Bae & Emma, I don’t know if that would just be to much of the same insecurities/ baggage to bring to a relationship &make it work long term- but then again if they’ve both grown from it & healed, I suppose it could work ….. I’m going on a Bae & Emma break for the moment lol 😉
surayyaParticipant@slurpeez108 wrote:
@ Surayya: I don’t think Captain Hook has a fairy-tale counterpart, because I think he’s been in the surviving remanent of FTL this whole time (or Neverland as it may be). There’s a brief glimpse of a blonde woman threatening Hook with a knife to his throat in the promo for S2; a lot of people are speculating that it’s Emma who’s making the threat, because of the long blonde hair and read leather jacket sleeve. If Emma and Snow come across Captain Hook, and he likes her from the start, I have a feeling he might follow Emma home back to SB once they find a portal. Perhaps Hook even offers them passage home on his ship (assuming there’s fairy dust to make it fly). Ok so that may be wishful thinking, but admittedly, I’m already on the Emma-Hook ship. 🙂
Right that makes way more sense (having no counterpart & meeting in FTL).
I’ll say right now, I’m sooo on board with the Emma-Hook ship lol 😉surayyaParticipant@slurpeez108 wrote:
Snow was a good person underneath, but even she as a little girl, betrayed Regina’s secret to Cora. We saw how Regina started life wanting nothing to do with magic, and yet, as a result of a mistake on Snow’s part and a huge evil on Cora’s, Regina became evil.
See I see that a little differently- I would never blame a child for giving up any secret to an adult who purposefully manipulated said child into doing so- that’s all on Cora for me.
Yes, Snow could have asked Regina 1st, but that’s hardly something a motherless, 10yr old, only child is going to do when they’ve never been manipulated by an adult before, esp if it happens to be a female figure who takes an interest in her & then basically starts spouting her (Snow’s) worst fares as their own!
Also Regina never told Snow her mother was a mean spirited (aka evil) person who would force her to marry her father no matter what- she only said they wouldn’t understand & that is what lead Snow to be manipulated into telling all to Cora. Even if Regina didn’t know how evil Cora was- how is that Snow’s fault???I still think Regina blaming Snow instead of her mother is twisted- Snow didn’t kill Daniel, Cora did, Snow didn’t give up the secret to her own father, Cora manipulated it out of her, Snow didn’t arrange for Regina to marry her Father, Cora did. The only common denominator in EVERYTHING is Cora, which Regina is fully aware of & yet Regina still blames Snow.
I do agree with you about Rumple, I think he was just a coward before he became the Dark one & he only done that out of love/good intentions for his son. Also that the Dark ones curse tainted/spread though him, causing more & more of his bad side/character to come out while suppressing his good side- it was only his true love for Bae that stopped him from turning pure evil.
I still think he’s the biggest baddie on the block- he created the curse, he gave it to Regina to use (so he wouldn’t have to pay the price), he even told her how to enact it when she couldn’t get it started & so it was him that ultimately gave Regina the power she has over everyone- However despite it all I still think he is redeemable, he just drives me NUTS!!!!! by constantly make the wrong choices for the right reasons (in his mind) lol 😉
surayyaParticipantI’m with you slurpeez & hjbau, I think they’ll blame Snow & Emma in place of Regina & Rumple to begin with, then either something will happen & they help them rather than fleeing or Lance vouches for Snow (oe something to that effect happens).
I still don’t get why Regina hasn’t up & said- Rumple made the curse- he started it all &even told me how to enact it, so I don’t know why you all want me dead yet want to work/deal with him? Yep she’d sound weaker than Rumple in that moment- but it would turn pretty much everyone against Rumple …On second thoughts, I guess if they did that we wouldn’t have much of a show to watch then lol
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