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@slurpeez108 wrote:
Per your request, I re-watched 1×19 with subtitles from my DVD today. Unfortunately, there weren’t any subtitles for that conversation between Mother Superior and August. The subtitle simply said “indistinct” instead of what was being said. 🙁 I tried really hard to listen with head-phones, but I couldn’t make out anything much better than you already did. I think August might have said. “I understand, but that’s the whole point. I can’t do anything about it with my body like this.” I think Mother Superior may have been persuading August to stick with the plan of getting Emma to believe, but he was so anxious from turning into wood, that he wanted to get Mr. Gold’s knife and use the magic asap.
Also, I never noticed the sign in front of the convent until now. I think it reads “Sisters of Saint Melissa.” As far as I know, there is no such saint in Catholicism, although there may have been a Melissa, queen of Serbia, who may have been canonized in the Eastern Orthodox Church. Anyway, I looked up the name Melissa though, and it does have a connection to Greek mythology, as she was a nymph who cared for the infant Zeus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa
I’m not sure what the official religion in FTL was, but it did seem to be polytheistic, as indicated by Baeflire in 1×19 when he said, “Gods no!” and by Maurice in 1×12 and by Granny in 1×16.
Thanks for looking 🙂
Interesting info – I never really saw the sign either lol 😉[adrotate group="5"]surayyaParticipant@Faux Pax wrote:
Parhaps that would also explain why BF was so picky about who she helped (something I wish the show would address). I mean Bae heard about her from his Ex-child-soldier friend. If the magic was free, you’d think BF would have helped all the kids, but I guess she thought that getting the dark one out of FTL was worth whatever it cost her to send Bae away.
Oh I like your thinking!
I think they do have to give up a chance of finding ‘true love’ as she told Dreamy, Nova couldn’t be a fairy & be/live with him…. maybe this is just one part of what they have to give up & maybe are bound to help only certain people under certain conditions or something.surayyaParticipant@steliokontos1 wrote:
Don’t know if I agree with that first part I think Regina really didn’t know where they went or what happened to their world. Maybe Jefferson knew that part of the EF remained but I don’t think he’d want to bring his daughter back to the wasteland maybe back to a different time within the enchanted forest? Probably not since that world would be sucked up anyway but still. In the tent it’s hard to tell with the watermark in the way but I originally thought it was someone hooking electrodes up to a body. I wouldn’t put it past Regina to have planned the whole banishing Emma and MM to the wasteland EF maybe just missed getting David too?
Umm in S01, Jefferson told Emma he wanted her to make the Hat so he could take Grace “back home” with him. That pretty much says it all to me as far as Jefferson & FTL goes 😉
surayyaParticipantShe rubs me the wrong way too…I think, I still not keen on her after watching the promo 3times- I dont know why exactly as I do actually like (the non Once) ‘Mulan’
surayyaParticipant@steliokontos1 wrote:
Well when Charming is with Henry in Snow’s place he says that “Emma and Mary Margaret are alive” I think they’re just gonna use both names interchangeably. Either that or maybe David is his real name remember James was actually his brother’s name
I thought that was because Henry has ONLY know EVERYONE by their cursed names.
I knew they’d use both names for everyone for a while, but I just didnt expect it to be so one sided between Snow & Charming I guess 😮Good point with James name- but he told Snow it was James in FTL & that is what she called him in all the FTL flashbacks when she wasn’t calling him Charming during S1 …so yeah 😕
@Faux Pax wrote:
Well think about it this way, they have the memories of both lifetimes so Snow has spent just as much time being MM as she had being Snow. Charming on the other hand was asleep for all but a few months so he’s a lot less of David then Charming. Charming will always think of his wife as Snow, but Snow is just as comfortable thinking in Storybrook terms then FTL. Charming referred to her as MM because he was talking to Henry, who only really knew her as MM outside of the pages of his book. (if any of that made any sense).
Umm, but doesn’t that thinking work both ways 😕 David was John Doe until a few mths ago, so he’s much less David, than James/Charming ever was + David was the one who hurt her most while James saved her/brought her back & battled with her for their kingdom 😕 😆
I suppose they could swing that one either way 😉 I’ll get used to it- I just didn’t expect 2 true lovers not to use their original/true names with one anothersurayyaParticipant@Schmacky wrote:
I’m seriously surprised Emma handled it as well as she did. I mean within less than 24 hours she went from being ready to leave Storybrooke for her son’s well-being to him being poisoned, realizing the fairytale stuff and magic is real, talking to two classic characters (from her POV) about a quest for magic, watching a friend turn into wood, fight a dragon, get screwed over, her son died, came back to life, broke a curse, reunited with parents that are the same age and whom one was previously a roommate….. and she did all that without any sleep.
Gotta give the girl props and give her a pass if any of her “thinking” was “flawed.” lol
I agree with EVERYTHING you’ve said!
I think she was pushed into dealing with a MAJOR emotional situation ( we know she doesn’t deal with emotions very well at the best of times as well), so she reacted rather well for her 😉 & responded very well considering!
This is a trauma she’s had/carried for 28yrs- they all lived unhappy/cursed lives yes- but they had all the facts, Emma didnt!
By the sounds of it Emma lived a miserable, semi-abused life, pretty much devoid of love- (she was devastated that she was rejected at 3yrs when that family had their OWN baby- that leaves DEEP, DEEP scars on top of the whole- as MM put it- “why would anyone want to give me away” question).I guess I have a window into what Emma’s feeling here, as I have a close (& much older) friend who was adopted, she didn’t have the easiest of lives growing up, as who she was clashed with her parents (hard to explain), she knew later on that her Dad wanted her, but her Mother didnt- she hasnt found them & is VERY, VERY overly emotional about it all to this day – some 45yrs later.
She grew up in a very well off family, so what would I say to her, boy are you flawed in your thinking 🙄 Emotional trauma is just that traumatic!Its weird as I type this a NZ program on missing lives (adopted out/lost family members) is on & Man is that some emotional viewing, but Snow’s reaction has almost played out in front of me again! The women even said it was like time had stopped- there was her little boy & she just wanted to look at him & touch him – Boy did they hit Snow’s reaction bang on!
Some others couldn’t handled it & walked away, feeling deeply hurt, not better for meeting them.
Anyway, back to FTL/SB…..
So Emma wouldn’t have been thinking about ‘what ifs’ regarding the curse at all at that point, only the rush of emotions of not being with a loving family her ENTIRE life until that point, of not being loved or even cared about enough to be taken to a safe place, with no clue to who they were, just dumped on the side of the rd like rubbish, along with the hurt from being adopted then given back + what ever happened afterwards, then there’s everything that’s happened in SB including that day, on top of the weirdness of who her parents actually are & that whole situation entails- why it happened doesn’t make the Emotions from those events any less- but every single one of those emotions would have had come crashing down around her at that point & will be there for sometime! It’s a lot of deep hurt to let go of after all!
I cant say I’d be entirely understanding & self sacrificing right off the bat if I’d had Emma’s life growing up!surayyaParticipant@steliokontos1 wrote:
So they’re now in what remained of the enchanted forest…. Looks like Snow is gonna have to show Emma the ropes! I love how in the promo someone is threatening Emma and Snow and Snow gets in front of her daughter to protect her. I wonder who it is first guess of mine is Cora…
I’m thinking Cora as well.
Cant wait for Emma to be way out of her depth & the OMG! moments to roll on in, as Snow protects her daughter from magical bad guys 😆
& yep I heard it as ‘if you cross the boarder, you loose your memory of your old life’ – It remains to be seen however how much, or ‘which’ old life they loose! 😎
surayyaParticipantSee, I think Jefferson knew all along EF/FTL was still around- he wanted to go back there with Grace, so he didnt think it had been destroyed.
He was able to grab the Apple for Regina- to me you cant destroy an entire world/universe & still be able to travel back in time in it- gone is gone once you’ve ripped a hole in time & space!
Regina 1st said our “Land” was destroyed – not world (Gold’s lessons are finally sinking in 😉 )
Regina was in Evil Queen mode when she said our world was destroyed- she was lying as she thought she’d managed to just get rid of Snow & Emma (Regina jackpot 😆 ) Which is also why she just didn’t say out right to Henry that they are dead.On another note, in the lightning above the tent pic, it looks like a guy with a sword in there to me…..
I’m also stoked that Emma & Snow (I hope) are back by sometime in Ep4! 😀
surayyaParticipantYeah Im board with the Cora/Queen of hearts theory- the fact it was her father taken & put in a magical safety deposit box wall much like Regina uses, its a bit hard to think it would be anyone else 😉
surayyaParticipantI, like most others, guess he’s going to be Bae- because that’s the only other person we know with 100% certainty, left FTL for a world without magic (so most likely here).
The flat & attire are certainly a match for Rumple, old objects but snazzy dressers- like father like son.
The bowling trophy could be a hint that Emma’s diner wasn’t a diner at all, but a bowling alley! (Or that could be H&K messing with us 😉 )
In the BBQ poster/pic of Once, Henry is wearing the same blue scarf thing that Bae was wearing in S01E18 (I think it was E18- the ep where rumple turns the egg guy into a snail & stands on him). H&K said there is an Easter egg as to who Henry's father is hidden on/in the pic of Henry & it isnt the bow & arrows- I'm hoping its the trunk he's standing on rather than clothing or what ever is hidden in the bow bag 😉I don’t see how the Red hand poster (which I admit I’m clueless on at this stage), the wooden moccasins (he wore boots the whole time) or the weird red striped, white thing, shaped like a tooth hanging next to the pocket watches beside the door fit for Bae though,,,,
If he turned out not to be Bae & lets face it, it is H&K, so they could be trying to get us so focused on this guy they can 1/2 slip Bae in the door under our noses 😉 Then who could he be, my guess would be characters who in their own stories are able to travel between our world & theirs, the most obvious is Peter Pan now they have the rights to do use him (& because he’s one of their favourites I think he’ll get a good showing).
The wooden moccasins fit for Peter (I recall one version of the tale including an Indian girl who wore traditional grab),
The bowling trophy could still belong to Emma still (I dont know who would be better to be Henry’s father- Bae, the boy out of time, who was destroyed by his fathers love of power & evil magic or Peter, the abandoned & trapped boy, who was forced-likely kicking & screaming 😉 to grow up & be a man in our world).
The tooth could be a crocodile tooth???
Still no clue on the red hand poster.
Of the people in our own world, who would believe FTL was real? My only guess there is either friends of Bae or August (more likely August, who was younger & had no beef with magic). So could he be the black haired boy whom August ran away with? Kids are way more open minded that adults & magic lands where dreams come true etc would probably be a pretty cool draw card to a bunch of kids with no home or family (at least for a while anyway).
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