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sweetgrass wrote: thanks mysterykat. i really hope they (writers) are good to Hook character and don’t undermine him to make Bae more interesting.
They won’t!
The fact that Killian got a new poster and Neal didn’t speaks volumes about how much they love Captain Hook 
And the way Killian has been compared to Han Solo/Dread Pirate Roberts… some of THE most important leading anti-heroes…. well, I think that spells volumes too about where our OTP is gunna go…. AND ANYONE WHO DOESN’T SEE NEEDS TO TAKE THEIR BLINDERS OFF. thanks Captian Eula. This makes me feel better.
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While I don’t read into this more than it is, it does deomonstrate that Hook and Regina both understand wthere the other is coming from. From 3×1:
“Can villains get happy endings? It’s something two fan favorites contemplate in a scene that might convince some more people to hop aboard a certain ship.” source
I believe this topic will again come up between Hook and Regina as they travel to NL. While their happy ending might not be with each other, it’s fun to speculate about.
I’ve always felt these two would make great friends. We already saw in the mine that Hook was already talking her about the emptiness of revenge. I can see them as friends with benefits and they both understand that. I just don’t see them as OTP.
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I would love to learn more about Mal. She was always my favorite Disney villian. I don’t think the theory works because Mal has been in Regina’s cave, but I won’t mind being wrong about it.
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Once Rumple was branded a coward, his family became outcasts because of it. I agree they were never well-off, but if you look at Rumple’s clothes in the pre-Dark One curse, they become progressively more ragged. The town didn’t respect him and that had practical effects on the family – poverty.
I agree Milah should have picked up her son, told Rumple she was leaving and started a new life with Rumple in another town.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
obisgirl wrote: I love this conversation, and I agree with all points, Keb.
TheWatcher wrote: Did Milah deserve it? Maybe
Can you explain this further? I have a general idea of why but still.
She’s a mother who completely abandoned her son to run off and live her life wild and free. She left Bae in poverty at that! All so that SHE could be happy. That’s enough to be put In jail in our modern world. Was Rumple right to punish her? In my opinion, yes. Was he right to kill her? ….Perhaps? Hence the “maybe”. She deserved to be punished…. But killing her for it is a bit iffy for me.
Watcher, it was Rumple’s actions that plunged that family into poverty. He was unwilling to move to another town to start fresh. He also is the one the “criminally” abandoned his son. I don’t think it is illegal to leave your child with his/her loving parent, like Milah did. But it is illegal to abandon your kids completely/strangers as Rumple did. If Milah deserved to die, than so does Rumple in a far more painful manner.
I get not liking Milah, The writers haven’t tried at all to make her sympathetic. I can even understand wanting a character you dislike to die after all it is a tv show. I know I’ve do sometimes. But I don’t think Milah should be demonized.
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His killing Milah is one of a few things Rumple’s done that crossed the moral line. It’s hard to watch because I adore him, feel for him, and want him to find his happy ending, but that murder (and the snail and the murder of Honora) were all unjustified, horrific, and make me think that Bobby’s right when he says that New Dark One is the most difficult (so far) of the roles that make up Rumple. New Dark One is scary–he’s got powers he barely comprehends, is still dealing directly with the people who hurt him most when he was powerless, and so he’s in full on vengeance mode, unable to acknowledge his continual fears because he believed that power would free him from cowardice. Yet he IS afraid–afraid of losing Bae (the snail), afraid of losing his power/being killed (Honora), and afraid of what he’s become–which is part of why he unleashed his wrath so completely on Milah. He’s punishing her for what he did–abandoning Bae–as much as what she did and said, as we’ve already noted. But it touches on his inherent cowardice, too: He’s afraid he’s unlovable. Even Bae was rejecting him after he became the Dark One. And I think it’s because his anger at himself and his fear is so heartbreaking, so real, and obviously so well portrayed by Bobby, that we’re willing to forgive him–so long as he becomes worthy of that forgiveness. (He hasn’t. Not yet. The swing scene shows that he’s still giving in to the same weaknesses that led to Milah’s murder, which means he hasn’t earned his redemption.) No matter how much you dislike Milah, you can’t excuse Rumple’s decision to kill her. And you don’t have to in order to understand his reasons or sympathize with him regardless. Loving Rumple is kind of frustrating, because every time you want to root for him, he goes and does something horrible and you want to shake some sense into him. Yet the potential is there–the good heart that Belle sees is so clearly there–and that gives us a reason to root for him. When he finds his good self, he’s going to have to answer for a lot of pain he’s caused (which is not to say he hasn’t paid for it, at least in part…his crueler actions have had direct consequences that have harmed him and the people he does care about).
well said, Keb. BUt it is going to take alot for me to say Rumple has redeemed himself. Rescuing his own flesh and blood or girlfriend is not going to do it for me. It’s a start but if he killed my family member, I would be unmoved by his saving his own family.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
thanks mysterykat. i really hope they (writers) are good to Hook character and don’t undermine him to make Bae more interesting.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
hi — i haven’t posted in this thread yet. I am a major Hook Fan and ship CS. I do feel that the overall board is very biased to SF. Sometimes it is a little hard to take.
Anyways, I am trying not to be totally spoiled so I haven’t read the latest mega spoilers. I haad one questoin as a Hook fan first and then a CS fan will I be happy or unhappy with the first two episodes?
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
For me Hook and Regina are better off as friends. I can see them snarking together. I don’t see them romantically together because I don’t see them making each other better. It would too easy furor them to slip into bad habits.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
I don’t think I’ve seen this . Can I be the keeper of a certain pirate’s sauciness, a certain Queen’s snarkiness, Grumpy’s gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
