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September 27, 2013 at 12:13 am in reply to: How do Dearies view Milah's death? Does it matter? #212357sweetgrassParticipant
I like Rumple, but I make no excuses for what he did or in any way excuse what he did. It doesn’t matter to me that he was angry. You don’t kill someone you loved or once loved. The fact that he killed Milah doesn’t hamper my enjoyment of the character. Robbie is a great actor. Rumple is very complex and interesting. I can even root for Rumple on occasion but I think he doesn’t done enough to deserve true love until he makes all the bad to all his victims not just Hook. I don’t think he should get everything he wants (Belle and Bae). He’s always been a selfish man; otherwise he would have given up his power for Belle.
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sweetgrassParticipantHi RG.
I don’t want Rumple and Hook to hug it out. They can have uneasy truce, begrudging respect for the other. They can even work together if necessary, but Rumple will never be able to make it up to Hook. I would never expect or want Charming to hug it out with Snow’s murderer. It makes the surviving partner look bad and weak and lets Rumple to literally get away with murder.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
sweetgrassParticipanti forgot two things. I can get onboard with PP and Rumple being brothers, but not that Rumple was a lost boy. Rumple went to the Ogre War to get away from his father’s reputation as a coward. So that would mean that the townfolk knew his father. I can see maybe PP going with the shadow and little Rumple being terrified and staying in EF.
No on Belle being mayor. She is too aligned with the Dark One.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
sweetgrassParticipanttrying out my new keyboard…
1) I want Hook to have the opportunity to kill Rumple. My head cannon: Rumple and PP have a deal not to kill each other, but PP traps Rumple leaving him powerless. Since PP can’t directly kill Rumple because of his deal, he gives Hook the opportunity (like Rumple did with the wraith). I want Hook to be conflicted. I don’t want Henry’s or anyone else’s life to hang in the balance. I want there to be a real question about whether Hook will try to do it. Pan should be egging Hook on. I want Hook to have his chance to rant at Rumple before he decides to injure/kill Pan. It is important to me that Hook and Pan have their relationship. It is key to PP story and would upset me if the writers parse it out to Rumple and Bae, leaving Hook out of his own fairytale. Hook helps Rumple escape. At some later point, Regina, Emma or David ( and I think anyone of them could work but for different reasons, can ask Hook way he did it. Hook can say he did it for himself, that he still wants justice for me but he was no longer willing to be defined by what Rumple did to him and Milah. It works with Regina because she needs to let go of revenge, David if they get the bromance going (which I think they will) and Emma because of the CS chemistry and connection.
2) I want the Jolly Roger to become able to travel through realms independent of portals. Because after Neverland Hook can become more of a merchant transport for people and things. He is one of the few that can leave StoryBrook so he can get items townfolk may want but don’t want to go to Regina or Rumple for. He could also get items from FL/EF for those who may want rare items. Because of his relationship with Rumple his customers will know that Rumple will not know what they are doing. This also helps expand potential storylines in the future
3) Bae. I want more interactions between Hook and Bae (both young and adult Bae). I like the idea that Hook tried to rescue Bae. This could be the basis of the traditional enmity between Hook and Pan. I could also see Hook having to use intermediaries like Tink to help Bae to avoid the risk of Bae rejecting his help and to possible mutiny. I’ve wondered if Hook kept tabs on Bae and if that is how Hook knew where to find the Crocodile in NY.
I want to know how long young Bae and Hook were together. It can be anything from a week (which I think is a little too short, because Bae had new clothes and Hook had time to gain Bae’s trust) to centuries given how time works in Neverland. Personally, I think the range should be at least 6 months to a few years, but not a century). I would like it to be a year or so to really give the Hook Bae relationship a strong foundation. I could see Hook teaching Bae how to sail, navigate, swordfight, drink Rum, and may be even advise Bae on his first crush — you know all the “manly” things that a pirate would teach a boy becoming a man.
forgot about adult bae. I am curious to see how they act around each other and how Rumple will react when he finds out that his cowardice sent his son into the arms of probably the last man he would want his son with. Rumple will flip out if he thinks Hook built a relationship with Bae. Note I didn’t say stole his son.
4) At the risk of incurring the wrath of others on this board, no Hookreil. If Hookreil happens, the fandom may explode against Hook again for breaking up the most anticipated and loved pair of contemporary fairytales. Look at how the whole Belle thing went down. First everyone complained that Hook wasn’t villianous enough, then he shoots belle and now he is the devil incarnate (ironic since that is what the Dark One is) and irredeemable. So no.
5) I actually think Regine screwed Tink over. REgina can’t seem to help herself from screwing other over.
Ok That’s enough for now.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
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