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I’m so glad the writers have realised just how wonderful Belle’s character truly is. She’s going to OWN next season. 😀
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Hi guys! I thought I’d bring a few theories from other threads in here. It may answer why Rumpel decided to release magic into Storybrooke.
@Midnight Dreary wrote:
^THIS. I’ve been wondering about the strength of the borders between the worlds for quite some time now. A curse as powerful as the Dark Curse would have seriously damaged the lines between our reality and the next. I hope we get more insight into that next season. That might be the “final battle” that Rumpel was talking about. Why would Rumpel want to fight an Apocalyspe immediately after he finds his son? He made the curse so that he could find his son, so why would he attach an Apocalypse onto it? It makes no sense. But I could easily see the bleeding of worlds into one another as the big “final battle” that he referring to. That definitely sounds definitely sounds like an Apocalypse.
@A Chipped Cup wrote:
Thank God I wasn’t the only thinking this. You’re absolutely right. The main objective of the curse is to find Baelfire. That’s the real reason why the curse was created and put into place. So, if Rumpel’s main objective is to find his son, then why would then turn around and create a magical World War III? Rumpel wants to be reunited with his son so that he can have his “happy ending,” and a big finale battle between good and evil doesn’t sound practical to me.
I think Midnight Dreary and Lil’Red are definitely onto something. In the end, the fight won’t between Rumpel, Regina and The Charmings, it will be between all the different worlds and dimentions. I think that’s the real reason why the writers introduced the concept of different worlds in “Hat Trick.” It was setting us up for what’s come in the future.
@TheDarkOne wrote:
Great theories everyone! I’d also like to add that the real reason why Rumpel brought magic into the world is because he knows that the lines between each reality are fading and that impending war is certain. So, in an effort to defend this reality, he brought magic into the world so that Storybrooke would have a line of defense against all the different worlds. Because when you really think about it, why would Rumpel want more power? We saw in “The Return” that he was ready to give up his powers and lust for magic. He gave August the dagger to show him just how sincere his intentions were. So, why would he all of a sudden do a complete 180 and decide to go after more power? It dosn’t make any sense. And I also don’t think that Rumpel needs magic to find his son. Unless Baelfire is trapped in some mystical tomb burried miles under the Earth, than magic is not needed for this task.
So, with those theories discredited, what’s left? I think Lil’Red and Midnight Dreary are correct in their assessment that the worlds are probably slowly dissolving and seeping into one another. And if that’s the case, then magic is going to be needed in order to defend Storybrooke. The complete dissolution of all worlds and dimensions is definitely Apocalyptic.
I also believe that the 20 doors inside of Jefferson’s hat will be the main players in the final battle. Those will be the worlds who’ll “take the battlefield”
Guys, my brain just exploded with a ton of new theories. A few members made some very interesting posts in another thread about Rumpel’s role in the final battle, and I thought I’d bring them over here for you guys to debate over. 😀
@Midnight Dreary wrote:
^THIS. I’ve been wondering about the strength of the borders between the worlds for quite some time now. A curse as powerful as the Dark Curse would have seriously damaged the lines between our reality and the next. I hope we get more insight into that next season. That might be the “final battle” that Rumpel was talking about. Why would Rumpel want to fight an Apocalyspe immediately after he finds his son? He made the curse so that he could find his son, so why would he attach an Apocalypse onto it? It makes no sense. But I could easily see the bleeding of worlds into one another as the big “final battle” that he referring to. That definitely sounds definitely sounds like an Apocalypse.
@A Chipped Cup wrote:
Thank God I wasn’t the only thinking this. You’re absolutely right. The main objective of the curse is to find Baelfire. That’s the real reason why the curse was created and put into place. So, if Rumpel’s main objective is to find his son, then why would then turn around and create a magical World War III? Rumpel wants to be reunited with his son so that he can have his “happy ending,” and a big finale battle between good and evil doesn’t sound practical to me.
I think Midnight Dreary and Lil’Red are definitely onto something. In the end, the fight won’t between Rumpel, Regina and The Charmings, it will be between all the different worlds and dimentions. I think that’s the real reason why the writers introduced the concept of different worlds in “Hat Trick.” It was setting us up for what’s come in the future.
@TheDarkOne wrote:
Great theories everyone! I’d also like to add that the real reason why Rumpel brought magic into the world is because he knows that the lines between each reality are fading and that impending war is certain. So, in an effort to defend this reality, he brought magic into the world so that Storybrooke would have a line of defense against all the different worlds. Because when you really think about it, why would Rumpel want more power? We saw in “The Return” that he was ready to give up his powers and lust for magic. He gave August the dagger to show him just how sincere his intentions were. So, why would he all of a sudden do a complete 180 and decide to go after more power? It dosn’t make any sense. And I also don’t think that Rumpel needs magic to find his son. Unless Baelfire is trapped in some mystical tomb burried miles under the Earth, than magic is not needed for this task.
So, with those theories discredited, what’s left? I think Lil’Red and Midnight Dreary are correct in their assessment that the worlds are probably slowly dissolving and seeping into one another. And if that’s the case, then magic is going to be needed in order to defend Storybrooke. The complete dissolution of all worlds and dimensions is definitely Apocalyptic.
I also believe that the 20 doors inside of Jefferson’s hat will be the main players in the final battle. Those will be the worlds who’ll “take the battlefield”
Great theories everyone! I’d also like to add that the real reason why Rumpel brought magic into the world is because he knows that the lines between each reality are fading and that impending war is certain. So, in an effort to defend this reality, he brought magic into the world so that Storybrooke would have a line of defense against all the different worlds. Because when you really think about it, why would Rumpel want more power? We saw in “The Return” that he was ready to give up his powers and lust for magic. He gave August the dagger to show him just how sincere his intentions were. So, why would he all of a sudden do a complete 180 and decide to go after more power? It dosn’t make any sense. And I also don’t think that Rumpel needs magic to find his son. Unless Baelfire is trapped in some mystical tomb burried miles under the Earth, than magic is not needed for this task.
So, with those theories discredited, what’s left? I think Lil’Red and Midnight Dreary are correct in their assessment that the worlds are probably slowly dissolving and seeping into one another. And if that’s the case, then magic is going to be needed in order to defend Storybrooke. The complete dissolution of all worlds and dimensions is definitely Apocalyptic.
I also believe that the 20 doors inside of Jefferson’s hat will be the main players in the final battle. Those will be the worlds who’ll “take the battlefield”
@hjbau wrote:
Well i think it is clear that Emma is causing things to happen by her presence and her actions. Like Gold got his memories back when he heard Emma’s name and the clock ticked when she decided to stay in town and the mines caved in when she became deputy and put on the badge and Regina’s tree dying the longer she stayed in town. There is something magical going on there. Which is why i like the idea that Emma wishing on the blue star candle could have caused something to happen. And that maybe Emma could have caused other things to happen as well before she came to Storybrooke. I don’t know though about that. It is just a theory.
And about the lying thing. It isn’t that it is a superpower. It is just that she is really good at reading people. The problem is in the past she has been able to not be emotional about it because she hasn’t had any real connections, but now when it comes to Henry and Mary Emma’s emotions get in the way and she can’t read people because she is just thinking emotionally and not rationally and objectively thinking and and reading the situation. I think that makes sense. If anything is true about the characters in this show they are not rational when it comes to their children.
PS. I don’t think the curse is technically completely broken because everyone is still in the real world and like Emma asked Henry they haven’t returned to fairytale land yet.
Good point about the curse. There are two integral aspects to the curse. The loss of memory and the realm jumping. Right now, the only thing that has been reversed was the memory loss, but everyone is still stuck in our world. They haven’t jumped realms yet. So, you’re probably right on the money about that. 😉
I also really like the theory of Emma wishing in the blue star. When I first saw that scene, I knew it would have greater significance later in the series.
@Lil’Red wrote:
She tells Mary Margaret in maybe the second episode that finding is one of the few things she is good at in life – I think she even makes a comment to Graham and Regina in the first episode that finding people is just what she does. Since she can’t really tell if someone’s lying or not, maybe she will end up with some type of superpower after all.
I agree. And since Emma’s role as the curse-breaker is over, maybe her next role will be to find Bae. Even if Bae isn’t Henry’s father, I still think that it will be Emma who will find him in the end.
@Lil’Red wrote:
All of us are just pulling theories out of thin air, and the writers clearly enjoy messing with us: return of the Huntsmen and Maleficent being examples.
I see where you guys are going with them having some type of supernatural connection (if Bae is the father/Emma’s true love). Since love cannot be made through magic (both Rumple and the Genie said so), maybe their initial meeting was engineered by Rumple through the curse, with the intent that she would bring Bae to Storybrooke. With this, any ‘romance’ or ‘baby making’ would have been accidental: she was supposed to FIND him, but maybe they found each other too soon. I like the idea that maybe parts could have been planned/organized, but in the end free-will(or fate) played a hand. Maybe even if they were more closely bond by magic, it was a result of some fault in the curse: some Bae DNA touched the True Love drop while scroll was rolled up or something.
I guess I want to see some limitations with Rumple’s planning at some point, so why not a botched plan to have his son brought to him and the creation of a grandson.That’s a very interesting theory. Maybe Rumpel accidentally bonded them together. Who knows? I also think the fact that Emma was a bounty hunter before she came to Storybrooke was no coincidence. I know she became a bounty hunter so that she could find her parents, but I find it very poetic that the curse was designed to find someone and the savior’s profession is to find people.
I completely forgot about true love’s kiss. A kiss on the cheek or forehead from Bae would have definitely worked. I don’t know why the Blue Fairy didn’t tell him that. But then again, this could all just be a simple plot hole. The writers needed to find a reason why Rumpel to created the curse, and that couldn’t happen if his own personal curse was already broken. Sometimes details are sacrificed for the greater plot. Sad, but true.
