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He needs to kill her to get rid of all the Saviors because he’s working with Jafar and Black Fairy to take them out for some reason.
[adrotate group="5"]I think the ending needs to be them all going back to live in the EF regardless of who the villain is.
Or if they wanted to be less predictable, then they could have the villian be this world–like citizens discover magic and Storybrooke and the final arc is about escaping out of SB back to the EF.
I would be ok with this.
Not sure if Doctor Facilier can be pegged as a OUAT series finale villain though. Unless he brings villains with him.
Yeah I agree. If we are to assume there will be one more final season after this, I’m not sure Dr. Facilier will cut it unless there’s more. But at this point, I’m not sure who they have left. Assuming black fairy wraps up this season, which maybe it won’t and I hope it doesn’t), and Jafar does as well, who is left that would be a major end of the series villain? I persona;lly have always wanted that person to be Rumple.
Oh and as far as Agrabah being in the dark realm, I like it a lot. I want to believe that Black Fairy and Jafar are working together to take out all the Saviors. That’s why Black Fairy is having Gideon come after Emma and that’s why Jafar was trying to convince Aladdin to give up his Savior powers. Perhaps getting rid of all the Saviors will allow the dark realm to take over all the realms. Maybe that’s going to be part of the Savior mythology they let us in on. But if Agrabah is in the dark realm, then Jafar and Black Fairy are likely working together.
So essentially Knockturn Alley?
Haha probably. I just for once would like to live up to the hype they give when they say they are going to introduce a new realm. Not just a jungle for Neverland. Not just a weird storybrooke for the UW, or one green castle for Oz. Let’s see a realm that’s actually unique and dark. Their world building has been crap as of late. If you’re going to build up this new realm as the darkest place of all the realms, you gotta come through.
Fourthly, the fact that you claim Neal dying is the only reason people don’t like CS because they’re “bitter” implies that the thought of SF still bothers you. SF was probably the biggest hurdle to CS and, despite two and a half seasons passing since then, you don’t seem to accept that people can dislike CS for other reasons beside Neal. Ironically killing off Neal was the worst thing to happen to CS because Emma never chose Hook over Neal. Neal was taken out of the equation, leaving Hook as the only option left. It does beg the question as to WHY Neal was killed off instead of having Emma and Neal move on from each other.
Man, this has certainly spiraled a bit. I will choose to comment on the one thing above. You cannot say SF fans are not bitter but then finish your thought with the last sentence implying that the CS relationship does not have what the SF relationship had, and that Hook was simply the only other option for Emma once Neal died. And then implying that the writers killed Neal off only so that Hook would be the only other option. That seems pretty damn BITTER to me. And I’m sorry, but I’ve seen the SF thread on here. I’ve been kindly asked to leave it a few times. You guys are very bitter and it shows in your explanation of things regarding Hook and specifically Hook and Emma’s relationship. It’s so painfully obvious and yet you guys don’t see it. You can disagree all you want, and perhaps CS fans are bias with there own stuff too when they try and justify the relationship, but as someone who really liked SF, and someone who enjoys CS as well, I see way more bias and ridiculous things coming from you guys.
I would like to see Hook have some sort of motivation that isn’t directly tied to Emma. For example, Charming looking for his father’s potential murderer. That has nothing to do with Snow but it could tie him to a villain they just introduced…..my cookies are on black fairy being the murderer. I’m also sticking to my theory of Hook’s mother also being Black Fairy, making Rumple and Hook brothers. That would tie Hook to the main villain in the second half, and it literally pins everyone against this woman which could lead to the final battle. You have Rumple and Hook hating their mother for abandoning them, Charming hating her for killing his father, and Emma trying to fight for her life against Gideon who was raised by the black fairy to be evil. Sounds like a final battle to me. I could even see a rehash of the finale of 3A instead this time, Hook and Rumple sacrifice themselves together as brothers to save the town.
I used to absolutely hate Hook but this season, I actually kind of like him. He genuinely apologised to Belle for what he did to her and even offered to help her out, not because it benefitted him in any way, but because he genuinely wanted to help. THIS is the Hook we needed to see several seasons ago before Emma got together with him. I think the main issue with CS is the build up. There was no reason why Emma would’ve gotten with Hook when she did, other events which should’ve been important to Emma were ignored such as Neal’s death because that should’ve had an impact on Emma, in general the writers were lazy with developing Hook and rather than show him progress, they just told us he was redeemed. Considering the way he was introduced, more effort needed to be put in to make his “redemption” believable. Also, in the early days of CS, it did seem like Emma was spending all her time exclusively with Hook and other people such as Henry got forgotten. In fact this season, I’ve actually liked Hook more than Emma. When Belle came into the diner looking for a room to stay in, Emma disparaged Granny’s rooms (which was uncalled for IMO) yet did nothing to offer Belle an alternative place to stay. It was Hook who actually stepped up and offered Belle alternative accommodation. For the past couple of seasons, Hook has kind of been Emma’s lapdog but this season he does seem to be moving beyond Emma’s vicinity so good for him! Robin was a wasted opportunity because he never moved past being Regina’s lapdog. For me OQ was more badly written than CS. At least with CS in the episode “Tallahassee” you can see the chemistry. With OQ, Robin had just literally met Regina, we find out later that EQ was responsible for Marian’s death, and yet Robin is completely unbothered by the fact that Regina was the EQ. Even though the audience knows Regina has changed, Robin shouldn’t know that so it would’ve been more natural for him to show some initial distrust of her, at least until she saved Roland from the flying monkey. The relationship could then be built from there. As it was, Robin immediately fancied Regina and what made it look even worse was that Ginny was visibly pregnant in the first episode of 3B so it looked like Robin helped Regina up but left a heavily pregnant woman lying on the floor.
I agree with everything you said here.
