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Gypsy is having difficulty posting and asked me to share this:
The thing about Pandora’s box is that it’s connected to Prometheus. Whale/Victor is the science part of the Alchemy theme. Is the box like the cuff Greg and Tamara put on Regina? In other words, is the box indicative of Science being able to contain magic?
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Well done Phee! 🙂 You called it the other day on another thread that was already opened about the box.
https://oncepodcast.com/forums/topic/rumples-box/page/2/#post-221679
Can’t believe we all missed it. It is after all called, PANdora’s box. LOL!
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Maybe instead of killing the thing you love most, for the ReverseCurse it’s gotta be the thing you hate most, and that’s why Rumple’s killing Pan?
I would think the thing Rumple hates the most is his father thus supporting the pics that Pan is his father. So did Rumple take his heart to cast a reverse curse?
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rumplegoldfan wrote: Yup. Sounds like everyone who came with the curse is going back with this curse. Which means Emma, Henry, Hook, and Neal won’t be going back.
I think this is dead on. OMG. WHY.
Wow! This is getting good!
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This is all a bit random, but I was thinking about a possible connection between the name “Baelfire” and the series “A Wheel of Time.” In that series, baelfire is a kind of weapon or magic. According to A Wheel of Time Wiki:
“Since before the Breaking of the World, the use of balefire has been forbidden. The White Tower forbids us even to learn it. In the War of Power, the Forsaken and the Shadowsworn themselves used it only reluctantly.”
When a target is struck with balefire, its thread in the pattern is destroyed, in an amount proportional to the power of the balefire strike. This translates to the target’s existence being completely erased, chronologically in reverse. For example, should an Aes Sedai use balefire on an attacking bandit, the bandit’s action of attacking the Aes Sedai and anything leading up to the action of the attack would be erased; this would be determined by the power of the balefire attack. The stronger the balefire, the further back in time the object in question will be burned from the pattern. This can have serious consequences on the pattern; the use of an extremely powerful blast of balefire to destroy a great number of lives at once has been shown to produce an effect referred to as a “balescream,” the sound of the Pattern itself groaning under the strain of rearranging itself around such a large gap. An interesting side effect of using balefire is that anyone that causes the “reversal” of time will still remember all the events that were undone as if they had actually happened even if the effects themselves no longer exist.
Perhaps Baelfire will help his dad defeat Peter Pan using the box that Belle holding. Will they try to change the course of time? I’m not sure exactly where I’m going with this or even if Adam and Eddy were inspired by that series to give the son of Rumple a strong name like Baelfire, but it’s very interesting nonetheless. And then RG posted this tweet from Adam Horowitz, which was asked just an hour or so after I’d posted my own theory about the inspiration to use the name Baelfire and a nod to “The Wheel of Time” series:
Baelfire is “a good strong name” according to Rumplestiltskin and as Rumple knows, names carry huge significance. So what is the meaning of Baelfire’s name? Baelfire is Old English for bonfire. What lights the way home? The flame that lights up Baelfire’s constellation map! Also, Baelfire used a match to scare away the Shadow in 2×21 since the shadow fears light. I’m thinking we’ll see Neal, Emma and Hook use fire to fight the shadows in the Dark Hollow according to the promo for 3×7. I’m also thinking that NL is perpetually nighttime because the Shadow has grown so strong that it drowns out daylight in present-day NL. Once the Shadow is defeated, daylight will return. I’m right on board with the name Baelfire having been taking from Wheel of Time. The interesting thing about the weapon Balefire, used in WOT is that Moraine, wields the weapon. We all remember Morraine, Bae’s childhood friend who told him to seek out Reul Ghorm. I talked about this back in my original Peter Pan theory, a year ago September. Here’s the link. https://oncepodcast.com/forums/topic/i-believe-bae-is-peter-pan-henrys-father/
Adam and Eddy are such fantasy/sci-fi fans, that they like to incorporate bits and pieces of everything in their work. I believe that the Frozen Wheel in LOST was a nod to the books Wheel of Time. Now we’ve got the box with it’s lovely little wheels on it, along with the Alpha & Omega. These guys are so creative!
Slurpeez, wouldn’t it be great if they titled Ep.11 The Sins of the Father? Keeping my fingers crossed. 🙂
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I’m still sticking to my crackish theory that Pan is Rumple’s father. They’ve showed us the healing waters of NL. I still maintain that Colin was mortally wounded and somehow ended up in Neverland. Because he shrugged off responsibility as a parent, he morphed himself into what he always wished to remain, a child. He became Pan. He harnessed the dark power from that island, probably tricked the first man into becoming Zoso that eventually led to Rumple’s fate as the dark one. Rumple will trick him, create a future for NL with that puzzle box of his and turn the dagger on the ultimate evil thus finally breaking his curse and his father’s curse.
Now, I wonder what happens to the dagger when all of this is said and done. Will it be given to Ariel as another thingamabobs for her collection. 😉
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Might I claim Rumple’s puzzle box, please? (as seen in S3x07 promo pics ) 🙂
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You’ve got to think of time in NL like time was in SB during the curse. Always a new day, with subtle little changes but keeps repeating itself. Nothing is counting down time.
Time doesn’t run currently with other realms either. A perfect example is Adam tweeting about Wendy being from real world England 1890’s. However, he also gave an interview where he clarified the difference between Alice’s world and Wendy’s world is that Alice comes from a fictional Victorian England and Wendy from a 1890’s “story land” Victorian England, based on our real England, but removed from time.
https://twitter.com/AdamHorowitzLA/status/335785492824068096
https://twitter.com/Punk_Bunny_87/status/343810268268204033
This is from an EW interview ” Adam clarified that Victorian England in Once Wonderland is a fictional version of that time period. As with other realms visited on Once, Wendy Darling’s England, Dr. Frankenstein’s world and such “are lands of story” removed from time.”
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TheGoldenKey wrote: Going out on a limb here, but I’m willing to bet that Rumple’s power, as the Dark One, originated in NL. Blue did tell Bae that whatever ailed his father wasn’t from this world (EF). Rumple’s undoing will be stabbing Pan, thus killing the power source of his Dark One’s curse. JMO
I think you’re right.
I’m not surprised Slurpeez 🙂 We have always thought a lot alike. 🙂
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Going out on a limb here, but I’m willing to bet that Rumple’s power, as the Dark One, originated in NL. Blue did tell Bae that whatever ailed his father wasn’t from this world (EF). Rumple’s undoing will be stabbing Pan, thus killing the power source of his Dark One’s curse. JMO
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