Forum Replies Created
-
Posts
-
@RumplesGirl wrote:
What if it’s not Rumple’s “self” but rather the Dark One’s “self.” Rumple was never as Dark as he could possibly be as the Dark One: always preferring to make deals instead of just outright killing. Maybe this could explain why he maintained a little bit of good in him, he wasn’t fully the Dark One.
The Dark One’s shadow? OH MY! 😮 😯 Gosh, but I am having so much fun with this shadow! 😆
I have to wonder, with all the theorizing and discussions we do, is this what’s it’s like to be in a OUAT ‘s writer’s brain storming room? I think I’d love that king of job! 😀 😆
[adrotate group="5"]Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
@Gypsy wrote:
I don’t think Rumple aka The Dark One could travel to other worlds.
If he could, why would he hire Jefferson to do it?
The Blue Fairy told Bae “What ails your father is specific to ‘our realm’ (EF).”The theory of Rumple traveling to NL is posted in this thread. But it certainly is possible for Rumple to travel to other lands; he traveled to A Land Without Color (Dr. Frankenstein’s world) in In the Name of the Brother. It’s possible that Rumple paid to use Jefferson’s hat to travel to Victor’s realm, because he had no beans or other portals to do so. Also, even in Victor’s world, Rumple still was the Dark One and could do magic. As long as the realm has magic, Jefferson’s hat can travel there. The only reason Rumple couldn’t use Jefferson’s hat to travel to our land is because it lacked magic.
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
Back on page 4 I jokingly suggested that maybe it’s Rumple’s shadow. Now, I’m seriously wondering about that.
1) He really got sucked into that vortex too and really had to dig in with his dagger to stop from going. Maybe a part of in did go.
2) Perhaps from having used the dagger, while digging into the hole, it released some type of magic.
3) If it were a part of Rumple, why wouldn’t he be collecting lost boys? He’s be searching for his lost boy and that’s why when Bae said his name the shadow started coming around.
Maybe Rumple in a round about way is responsible for creating Neverland and lost boys. They did say that something comparable to Red being the Wolf and Rumple being the crocodile was coming.
Belle basically proposed a very similar theory here.
Yes, I’m aware of Belle’s theory where she wonders if Rumple perhaps had the whole island orchestrated to find Bae as I’ve posted over on that thread as well when I mentioned my theory about Bae saying his name to Wendy was the trigger that summoned the shadow to the Darling’s house. 😀
However, what I was suggesting here Slurpeez, is not the same thing as what she or anyone else has suggested over there.
I am saying that perhaps a little bit of Rumple’s subconscious mind or heart, came through the vortex along with Bae and is now appearing as the this shadow. Yes, that’s right. What if Rumple, or a wee bit of him, is the shadow. The childlike part of Rumple. That would explain the shadow always searching for lost boys as Rumple always said his son was lost to him.
Or, what if a little bit of dark magic escaped through THE DAGGER when he used it to dig into the dirt and escape the vortex. Same end results only a darker shadow with more sinister type of disposition.
Again, nothing like this was posted over there and I find this more suitable to the subject of this thread. 😀
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
Back on page 4 I jokingly suggested that maybe it’s Rumple’s shadow. Now, I’m seriously wondering about that.
1) He really got sucked into that vortex too and really had to dig in with his dagger to stop from going. Maybe a part of him did go.
2) Perhaps from having used the dagger, while digging into the hole, it released some type of magic.
3) If it were a part of Rumple, why wouldn’t he be collecting lost boys? He’s be searching for his lost boy and that’s why when Bae said his name the shadow started coming around.
Maybe Rumple in a round about way is responsible for creating Neverland and lost boys. They did say that something comparable to Red being the Wolf and Rumple being the crocodile was coming.
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
But what Estelle said, if it is correct, is so significant that I can’t see her letting that slip. It would blow the entire reveal if Hook is the Shadow. So I still think she is literally just telling a fan to watch the finale.
That was an entirely different question Estelle said she was asking. It was: if Regina goes back to the EF, isn’t she still marked for the wraith. Wasn’t about the shadow looking like Hook at all. I first thought so too but I went and looked. 😀
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
@HappyEndings wrote:
Will someone post a transcript as to what was said for all of us please ❗
Happy Endings. The official podcasts are much too long for someone to sit and transcribe and there are no official transcripts out there. You might want to download itunes unto your computer and listen to it yourself. Lots of good information. 😀
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
@RumplesGirl wrote:
I don’t think she knows the finale ahead of time. I think she’s telling the person to literally watch the finale.
I’m saying this cause I’m freaked out by it.
I checked out Estelle’s twitter account: Judging by her recent messages, I think she has already seen the finale and even recorded the Q&A with Adam and Eddy for 2×22.[attachment=0:t022axaf]Screen Shot 2013-05-07 at 10.37.05 PM.png[/attachment:t022axaf]
TV reporters and such, have the episodes sent to them the week before. Barbara Barnett brought that up on her radio blog. If they let anything slip, you can bet your sweet bippy it will be the last interview they will get.
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Estelle is questioner on the ABC Once official podcast, right? Does this mean what I think it means? 😯
I hope not! LOL! But I really don’t think it is. In the episode synopsis it states that Hook rescues Bae, discovers their connection and realizes that the lost boys are in pursuit of Bae. Seems to me that the shadow is in league with the lost boys so can't be connected to Hook.
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
@HappyEndings wrote:
don’t know what you mean here. Rumple traffics in names, not Bae. Bae kept his name hidden to be sure so his father wouldn’t find him, but this is turning the Rumple story on it’s head. Instead of Rumple’s name being the source of power, it’s Bae telling someone his own name that holds a magic key, as it were.
Remember Bae ran when August typed out his real name because he didn’t want his father to know where he was plus he was on the run why would you use your real name if you are stealing etc.
Neal never ran away from AWB when he showed him the page with his name typed on it nor did AWB threaten to tell Rumple/Gold where Neal was. So I don’t understand where this is coming from.
AWB told Neal all about the curse, SB and how it was Emma’s destiny to go break the curse and save all the people of SB. Neal gave up his own needs and wants to save everyone in SB. It was an unselfish act on his part and just as he sacrificed himself for the Darling boys, he did it so again, for everyone in SB. He did it a third time, for Emma and Henry last Sunday.
This was confirmed by Adam and Eddy during the podcast yesterday. 🙂
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
I also like the idea that Bae’s name is important. The original tale of Rumpel after all has its ending turn on a name.
Yes, especially since when we saw their version of the Rumple story, the name wasn’t important at all, yet in Manhattan he tells Emma that he traffics in names. What does that even mean when his name has never been his greatest secret?
Which brings us back to this little scene in Manhattan:
(The trio has entered the lobby of the apartment building. Henry scans the list of names on the intercom.)
Henry: No ‘Baelfire’.
Emma: Yeah, that probably wouldn’t fly as an alias. Your magic globe didn’t give you an apartment number?
Mr. Gold: It doesn’t work that way.
(Emma and Mr. Gold take a turn at looking at the list.)
Emma: Do any of these names mean anything to you?
Mr. Gold: Well, names are what I traffic in, but sadly, no.
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
@HappyEndings wrote:
I don’t think Gold created anything to track Bae, remember both him and Regina didn’t know that Henry was Bae’s son and even Bae stated that he didn’t know about Emma’s family when he met her I think they said it was destiny was the answer I can’t remember.
But in any case that shadow should have contacted Bae way before he went to the Darlings house not 6 months latter which makes me wonder about another enitity that we aren’t aware of or they might just pass over the 6 months missing time span 😕
If the shadow came through 6 months after the fact, there would be no way to contact Bay. What if, as I said earlier, the trigger point was Bae saying his name out loud. Wendy did say “what an unusual name. Rumple’s whole story line is about saying one’s name out loud. So, for me the 6 months in between isn’t a issue.
If the shadow failed at controlling Bae in Neverland and if Rumple was never made aware that Bae was there, he would have no reason to pursue that avenue any longer. Perhaps the shadow can only locate lost children and not adults. Thus Rumple having to rely on other methods to find Bae, such as the Globe.
There are just so many possibilities. It’s fun conjecturing though 🙂
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
