[thetrickster]

thanks for the welcoming!!!
Obisgirl, which part of Spain did you go to? ^^

[thetrickster]

I think there is no need to excuse Rumplestiltskin what he’s done. He is the bad guy, after all.
t is part of his new “him” to behave like that: capricious, moody, obsessive… and one of his main characteristics is that he takes words to literally, twists them, understands what he wants.(Deal Master, you know 😆 )

So it is quite logical that he took his wife’s words as an offence and killed her. Probably he repented afterwards, but hey! what is done, is done, and as he himself said “being sorry is not enough”.

The question is why did he take his wife’s words as an offence? well, i think he know he is guilty of loosing Bae. He was the one who left him go. And by saying “I left you and our son because I never loved you” she was saying “everything is your fault”.

It is a really serious accusation. I can imagine what came across his mind: “ok, you never loved me… why did you marry me? I was not rich, probably not handsome… why doing so then? you know, we have a son together, you slept with me, why doing so if you never loved me? You are blaming me for you being unhappy but, hey! you chose me at some point… it is not my fault that you didn’t love me. Don’t blame me for all what happened afterwards, you tried to change me, you left us and now.. everything is my fault?”– result: “I’m gonna kill her”. And so he did.

Reasons behind this argument:
He looks really sensitive to Bella’s atempt to change him. (Millah tried to change him also, by pushing him not to be a coward) And also to be blamed for his losts. ( As you can notice in “Skin Deep”: while beating Moe, mr. Gold is repeating all the time: “now she has gone, you rejected her and now she’s gone. It’s your fault not mine”) This sort of feeling don’t appear suddenly, they have their roots in past situations.

But, as I said at the beginning, this is not an attempt to excuse him. I’ve just followed his train of thought to know the whys. :geek: He is an interesting character to analize :ugeek: 😆

[thetrickster]

You are going to hate me because of this, but… i don’t really like Hook.

I mean, yes, I like the character, the way it fit in the story and all the plot possibilities it opens.

But i can’t sympathize with him. You know, all that about humiliate a crippled and so on. It seems like he has a lack of self confidence and needs going around behaving like a bully.
And for his chivalry…really? when he offered human-Rumplestiltskin a sword for a duel, he offered a rusty and untempered sword. He tried to fight with a lame old man who never fought before… it is not fair play, not for a person with a sense of chivalry. (Ok, all right, he is a pirate. Then it would be fine… but for the fact of the so called “chivalry”. The only “what.if…” that could save him would be that Milah asked him to challenge her husband to demonstrate he was not a coward anymore. and still it would be to twisted)

And, later in the chapter, when the Dark One crosses his path, the first thing he does is…lie him. Well done, Hook.
He is in love with Milah, that is true.But it doesn’t make him more balanced. I see him like a man who has lost his north, with no goals to achieve. Just going from here to there, now i’m playing in a tavern, now i’m in love… but… something was missing in his personality.

BUT, appart from all this, after Milah’s death, he apparently finds something to fight for, like a “true goal”. So there is still hope for him, it seems much more interesting and balanced in the last escene 😉 😉

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My first participation!! ^^
Regarding the tales, i think it could be like this:
Our world and Fairy Tales world coexist from the beginning, even if they are isolated one from the other. But, in our world, there are fairy tales all the History of humankind, so probably there should be a sort of “link”, like a window throught which some people can discern images, tales, or feelings from the other world. Maybe dreams? and thus, we have Grimms, Perraults, Andersens and so on… but as they are only brief visions, they are misunderstood, and that could be the reason for us having such a different versions of the “true” story of FairyLand inhabitants…

Regarding The Book, the one that Henry has, it is of a different nature, it is what actually happened… in my opinion, it belonged to Snow in FairyTaleLand and came with her after the curse. That explain why she had it first, why it has a sort of “magic” in itself, and why it was given to Henry.
How did it came to her? maybe as a wedding gift: a tale telling all what happened before she and Charming could be together. (An excellent gift, by the way XDD )

The remaining question of this theory is; who wrote it?

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