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ParticipantWas it because she found out his involvement in Rumple’s ruse in order to turn her into his monster
I’m sure its this. Its the only explanation, unless Regina was just being a real bonofied [bleep] toward him for no reason at all. Which I doubt. A good question is what happened to Grace while Jeff was gone. It seems not that much tome passed between him being trapped in WL and the curse occuring since Grace was the same age, BUT during that time, Jeff got his own place and net Alice in WL (hehe) so some major time had to have passed for Cora to let him go and all that blah blah.
Are there other non fTL characters in SB besides Dr Frankenstein
I’m positive there is. Dracula was mentioned in the pilot script, for example.
Since Jefferson’s attitude is different in this episode compared to 1×17, was this before Jefferson met his wife & had Grace
I got that impression. I think Jeff actually met his beloved on one of his travels to another land and brought her to the EF, but clearly something happened that made him lose her.
– If Jefferson was wealthy for a while because he worked for Rumple, how did he loose all his riches since he was poor in 1×17?
Tea is expensive in the EF perhaps? We know the Hatter likes his tea 😛 hmmm. Grace is a few years old. Maybe when she was born he stopped working for Rump, and sparingly spent all the gold in the 9 or 10 years of raising Grace alone and having to support themselves.
[adrotate group="5"]"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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Stop fighting!! Ur making this baby sad!! Lets all just agree on one thing, if not anything else: HENRY WANTS TO BE WITH BOTH OF HIS MOMS!! Let us look again to what HE wanted to do about a living situation. HE wants to live with both Emma and Regina, not one over the other, or just visiting one. He wants both. Now lets focus on other things…. Henry should definetely get some bad-butt clothes to match Regina, Rumpel, and Charming. I mean the young lad is a bit young for leather, but we could give him cool fur coats and…swords…or whatever young enchanted forest men wear >_>

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ParticipantMr. Gold finds an intriguing object that makes him question whether or not he should officially give Belle control over the dagger that makes him The Dark One,
The urn?
Meanwhile, in Arendelle of the past, as Elsa’s sister Anna’s wedding to Kristoff nears, Anna discovers that their parents – who died on-ship during a violent storm – were heading to a mysterious destination in a quest that may have held the secret to containing Elsa’s out of control Ice powers.
okay then. (also: MItchell is totally Elsa’s mom as well as the Snow Queen)
What if they were searching for another ice sorceress who may have answers about why Elsa has powers. And then they encounter Elizabeth character who kills them. Or something :p
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ParticipantThis is an extremely interesting conversation 😛 lets see what I can throw in here:
Hmm, gonna throw this out there: Regina is technically, ya know, an illegal citizen of, ya know, our world >_> her magic/the curse basically created a false identity for her and everyone in SB. If you really think about it, Henry’s adoption really was illegal because “Regina Mills, Mayor of StoryBrooke, Maine” doesn’t exist. Anything pertaining to her is technically false. Now idk much about adoption and the legal paperwork and such but I would guess that even if a real person, lets say her name was Jane Johnson, managed to created false documents with false information, but filed them legally and obtained a child by going through the proper channels, if she were found out, she’d probably not only have the child taken away from her, she’d be in prison. Isn’t it th same concept? Does any of what I just said make sense?
So those accounts would not be held in the court of law, and therefore Regina would not be held accountable for any of her actions.
Not all of Regina’s crimes happened in the EF. She still killed Graham and admitted it, plus she admitted to trying to poison Emma and ended poisoning her son. Ya know. The son she adopted. Just bringing up that alone could get Henry taken away. Oh, and she killed Owen’s dad. And confessed that too. So even without bringing magic into it, if they wanted to make a case against Regina they’ve got plenty to choose from 😛 but my statement still stands, I think Henry should just alternate equally between Emma and Regina.
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ParticipantFor those of you continuing to watch in S4, what are your expectations or motivations going forward for the story? Do you think that A&E can possibly redeem themselves, given the multiple inconsistencies, narrative choices and unanswered questions?
I’m only watching for the whole “Disney in Live Action” aspect now. Its not good for much else. Do I think A&E can redeem themselves? I always have faith things can get better (which is odd considering I’m very pessismistic in real life) for this show. The most popular idea I think they could do would be the OUAT encyclopedia that would give us all the backstories and answers we want that they just didn’t show or answer on the show. As for the narrative choices? Perhaps. I can give a few options that I think would improve the show and turn it back on track even given the current state of blah its in. And no. Those options dont include flesh eating babies 😛 but I highly doubt A&E will. Honestly, I’m sure this show won’t be after next year probably. I give it one more season.
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ParticipantAnd the prize for one of the weirdest and more confusing ouat confessions goes to this, bc when you read this confession, after you will be like ok, this sounds very strange: http://wishforrainbow.tumblr.com/post/96869577652/girlhitscar-thehoundofstorybrooke P.s: happy sunday
Baby NameStealer. Baby Replacement.
I am holding on to a little glimmer of hope that there may be a name change… With the book series in currently reading, a baby was born and named in the first book, but then in the second book, the baby renamed herself (yep u heard that right) because I heard the fans didn’t like the name (neither did I) so the author changed it, which was cool. Who knows. Next season he could be baby Barnaby White Charming. Or Blizzard Snowflake Charming 😛 they should have named that baby Blizzard >>
Speaking of babies, wouldn’t it be cool if the baby turned out to be like the baby from Extant?
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ParticipantOh, Watcher! I adore Flynn
Oh no, no, no this is un-acceptable, Jo 😛 Flyn has to be one of the most smug, arrogant, and most d-baggy Disney dude ever created. I wouldn’t mind beating him upset the face with a skillet fresh off the stove. Now THATS a smoulder… Badum tsss.
I think Tangled is a much better movie than Frozen. Not a fan of Princess and the Frog, though
The only good thing about Tangled was Gothel and her songs. I hated the music in Tangled, the characters, it was just blah. Frozen was a ton better (even though its no Wreck-It-Ralph :P) Princess and The Frog could have been a tad better but I liked it more than Tangled. Music was better too.
Anyway, as for Naveen, I read this article a few moments ago which speculates the sane thing I did and also gives a theory that Lily may be the daughter of Tiana and Naveen.
It’s possible that this character could simply be one of Prince Hans’ 12 brothers from Frozen, but Prince Naveen also fits this description. Most Disney princes are dashing heroes who can do no wrong (Prince Charming, Prince Phillip, etc.). However, Naveen acts like a selfish jerk when he’s first introduced in The Princess and the Frog.
There’s another new Once Upon a Time character whose name might be a nod to The Princess and the Frog. During episode 5, Once will introduce a recurring character named Lily. She’s a teen with a “charming, take-no-prisoners punk exterior and the heart of a secretive, insecure opportunist.” Perhaps her name is a reference to the lily pads that are often associated with frogs (it’s a bit of a stretch, but you never know with this crazy show). She could be Prince Naveen and Princess Tiana’s daughter — or she could be the Once Upon a Time version of Peter Pan character Tiger Lily.
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Participantdon’t think it’s Naveen for the reason that the casting call hasn’t specified race which normally means they’re looking for a white actor.
Well Naveen’s race is a bit ambiguous. I’ve seen him portrayed by white and Latino actors at Disney world, and white at Disney on Ice.
2) We’ve already got a packed guest season thus far with all the Frozen elements (Elsa, Anna, Rock Trolls, Kristoff, Hans, and Snow Queen). Not to mention RH, Marian and the Merry Men; Belle’s mom and Henry’s new GF. Now to add on a Tangled element? Bit “kitchen sink”
Agreed. I am sure the person is just a random brother of Han’s, but was just being different 🙂 although, Rapunzel was in OUAT for just an episode, I dont see why Flynn couldn’t show up for one and one only. Not that I want it to happen (I despise Flynn more than I hate pickles on sandwiches. And I really hate pickles on sandwiches)
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ParticipantThe best solution In my eyes is the one Henry came up with on his own in “Kansas”. He will live with BOTH. He will spend some days with Emma (when she gets her own place) and some days with Regina, not putting one over the other and i think that’s best.
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ParticipantAlways! For Episode 7, the ABC series is casting the one-off role of a pompous prince who beneath his veneer of confidence-slash-arrogance is not much more than a coward ill-equipped to handle conflict
I’m going to go out on a tentacle here and be different and say the prince is Prince Naveen. Pompous. Arrogant. Not so much cowardly but was clearly out of his league with the whole magic situation he was in. Its possible.
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