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I hope it’s not Cora. She’s an amazing villain and I would personally like her to stick around until the end of the season at least. BB said “an amazing” moment happens between Rumple and Belle, so ill go with that theory.

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I’m curios to know what will happen to Cora Hook and Regina….Will Cora and Hook be killed off, or banished back to FTL? and will Regina get locked up or?? Very interesting situation.

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@Phee wrote:

Maybe I’m giving Regina too much credit, but I’m hoping that maybe she’s playing Cora at her own game until such time as she can take her out and protect the Charming family.

It’ll definitely drive her crazy that her son is a blood relation of Rumplefreakingstiltskin though.

Protect the Charming family? PFFT! She owes the Charmings nothing, especially after the way they have treated her throughout her “redemption”. Her love is solely for Henry, if it weren’t for him she would have probably wiped out the Charmings ages ago.

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I don’t agree, I think when Snow said “Emma doesn’t have to run anything by you” was the curtain call for Regina to join Cora….it’s gotten to the point where she believes that her mother was right and that “they will only ever think of me as the EQ so what’s the point in being good” I think she truly is with her mother, and she most likely will turn on her by Henry convincing her in the end.

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@AngieBelle wrote:

I think she kidnapped Belle a few years before the curse.

What makes you think this?

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So after Regina visits Rumple and kills her father. Does she go and kidnap Belle and send Hook to wonderland right before enacting the curse?

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@Ser_Dragon wrote:

Don’t want to sound too harsh here but please, can we let that “which one is more evil” thing out of that great forum?

I mean it is really annoying now. That question have been asked again and again and debated with passion all over the net.

To answer you, neither of them as more evil nore goodod than the other

I’ve never see any threads about this before, Rumple and Regina are discussed a lot I get that, but not really solely about this.

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@Surayya wrote:

Wow, just got through reading the whole thread……… 😆 😆 😆
I think some people like using big wooden spoons for stirring & others are uber passionate about their fav’s (for whatever reason).

If there is one thing this show does, it is NEVER have a bad guy who is simply ‘pure’ evil- they always have a reason for being who & what we see them as.
Regina was the big bad, then we found out her true loves heart was ripped out in front of her by her mother, because a 10yr old motherless child couldn’t keep a secret from said mother + Rumple manipulated her- it doesn’t excuse all the lives she’s destroyed, taken & murdered in getting her revenge, but she is still redeemable.
Rumple was the biggest baddy of all, until… we find out he only became the darkone out of fear of loosing his son, then choosing power & cowardice over his son & that all his actions from then on, are to get back to his son. Again it doesn’t excuse the hundreds of lives he’s destroyed, murdered & taken in his obsession to get back to his son & we all know he is redeemable.
Hook; all we know so far is he has shot Belle in the shoulder, ripped out a heart & given it back again & done what he’s had to, by way of lying, flirting, cheating, charming, stealing, flirting, double crossing & oh, flirting- so being a pretty typical pirate, all in the name of getting revenge on the man who ripped his wife’s heart out in-front of him.
Hook to has been honest about who & what he is- a pirate, so it goes without saying (I assume), that you watch your back 😉
Personally I like him more because he has a moral code (makes him more complex IMO)- it might be hard to follow sometimes but it is there, unlike Regina & Rumple, who have killed their loved ones outright to get what they wanted.

You left out Cora, right? Because they haven’t introduced her backstory yet, and I’m hoping they make an exception with her and have her start off with evil tendencies only to be manipulated by Rumple later on, because she really does resemble a psychopath/Sociopath. Also I agree about Hook. Personally I see Hook as more of an Anti-Hero, even though the writers are trying to make it that way he just doesn’t seem that way. Most of what he’s doing Is because he hates Rumple, Pretty similar story to Reginas however Regina was much more extreme and Brutal and she has killed more people in her normal lifespan than Hook has in his 300 years, and that goes without mentioning Rumple and Cora, Hook just ain’t in their league if he’s considered a villain.

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@MysteryKat25 wrote:

I’ve been 100% behind the Bae is Neal is Peter Pan theory from the beginning. Loving seeing all these details (haven’t had a chance to read through all the pages lately) but I just wanted to say for all those who think it’s impossible because of the land without magic thing…

Peter Pan is one of those characters (like Alice, the Wizard from Wizard of Oz, etc) that STARTED in our world (aka “a land without magic”) and ended up in another world, before returning to our world. So technically Bae could have landed in our world somewhere, spent centuries in Neverland as either Peter or a Lost Boy, thus staying 14 for a long time, and then was either visiting our world (just like Peter often did…) or was in our world for some special reason or another when the curse was enacted, thus keeping him here, where he aged right along with Emma and August, etc etc.

So it is entirely possible that both what we know from the show (Bae being sent to a land without magic) and the traditional story of Peter Pan can coexist. It would also explain the time gap of centuries for Bae because Rumple is centuries old but he enacted the curse to get to the time and place that Bae ended up. Also since Bae was sent “through time and space” he could have landed here at any point in time, so who knows how long he stayed wherever, but Neverland would explain so much and how many times has been referred to as a “lost boy.”

It would also make some very interesting drama with the already complicated Rumple-Hook situation. Just my cents that nothing has officially ruled this out, most especially not “a land without magic” as Peter started out here too. There’s more ways to Neverland than just a magic bean 😉

I agree with this. I mean this theory makes much more sense then the “curse travelling through time theory”

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@NONNIE wrote:

Reasons I do not care for the character Hook:

Yes I enjoy the actor and think he is doing a good job…. but that said …

1/ Hook acts like a school yard bully picking on kids smaller and weaker of stature. ( I still do not think Gold was coward for not wanting to be cannon fodder for the GLORY of his fudal overseer.)

2/ Hook and Mihla are like the Jock and the cheerleader who pick on the nerds. I find Rumple / Gold more intelligent than either of them. Hook got Mihla to abandon her child. He probably would have been an abusive step dad … He sure does not relate well to the LOST BOYS.

3/ I truly dislike the sexual innuendos in a family show.

4/ He is remorseless and blinded by his revenge, willing to hurt innocent people.

I am sure there are other reasons but at 4 am / insomnia has not let me think of them …. good night…

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I agree. Hook is so overrated its getting annoying. If he had his traditional long hair and beard he wouldn’t have half the fan base he does now. Other then his good looks he’s just annoying and cheesy IMO. Cora is a much better villain both plot wise and character wise. But because Hook is “hot” he seems to get more attention then she does.

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