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Who had more story tell? Who was really more important?
Neal:
The Original True Love to Emma Swan.
The Biological father of Henry Mills.
The Son of Rumpelstilskin.
A Hero who sacrificed himself to ensure the resurrection of his father, as well as the return of Emma Swan and their son, even with the knowledge that he may not live to see it.
Hook:
The one handed lover who has a school boy crush on Emma.
I really want to ask Oncers…Who was the plot device again?
[adrotate group="5"]"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
@Slurpeez, that post was everything and on point!!!!
God Bless Cruella De Vil & Ursula…I swear they represented All of us!
Oh Ursula…
But at least you tried!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Rumple being handed his white heart without having earned it. I’ll probably write a lengthier rant about this later, but most other villains on this show had to earn their redemption. It’s a much longer process but it isn’t just given to them and Rumple just given his goodness back without having truly earned it, makes me sick. Because that’s not how it is.
I disagree. I think Regina and Hook have had it quite easy in their redemption arcs and they’ve not suffered or been held accountable for their past misdeeds especially Regina, she was willing to use Belle yet again as a pawn against Rumple with no regard for Belle’s well-being. I think it would be unfair for the other characters to hold a grudge against Rumple when they were all too happy to give Regina a second chance after everything she has done. Also, now that it appears that the darkness is somewhat sentient, it could be argued over how much Rumple’s actions were his own and how much was the darkness’ influence? Also Rumple’s actions, whilst certainly morally grey, were also trying to prevent an even worse scenario from occurring: the dark one unleashed without Rumple’s humanity holding it back.
I cant speak on Hook’s behalf, but Regina…yeah…even the Author/The Show has acknowledged that out of every other character…she has gotten screwed over the most, so she has suffered quite dearly for her past sins. Even before she was the Evil Queen, luck was never on Regina’s side.
And given what we’ve seen….just as you wish to say we don’t know what was Rumple’s will or the darkness will, we really don’t know what was Regina’s will or the Author’s manipulation. The freedom of will while concerning the past is up in the air because who knows how much the Author undid and rewrote.
As for the whole Belle situation….no matter what, we were shown Belle extending her hand to help, she probably should have put some stipulations in it. And besides….Rumple wasn’t that concerned with Robin Hood or Roland’s well being when he held their lives over Regina head, so she was forced into finding a way to stop Rumple before he could snitch that she was coming to the rescue, and the only thing she could have over him was Belle.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I’ve noticed something lately. Most of the people I follow on tumblr are Rumbellers, but I notice more and more are posting vocally anti-CS and anti-Hook things. In the past they just kept quiet and stayed in the “Rumbelle bubble” but it’s creeping out more and more. People I’ve never seen talk about Hook are now reblogging Hook hate. It’s very interesting.
I’m not surprised at this to be honest. I think the problem is they show Hook being deliberately antagonistic towards Rumple for no other reason than he can, and then show him being all sweetness and light towards Emma. It’s like a whiplash effect. What they’re telling us about Hook (that he’s redeemed, he’s a hero, etc) does not match up with what they’re showing us onscreen (that he has bully boy tendencies and has a very unsavoury side of him). This darker side of Hook is not explored or acknowledged by the writers or the other characters and it makes Hook look a little Jekyll and Hyde.
Hook is quite twofaced…around the Charmings, he’s this innocent saint but around Rumple and Will, his true darker colors surface.
Hook can get run over by a truck, brush himself and walkaway….Rumple however gets run over by a truck, and he’s deader than a duck. Examples of this show in the blackmail….Everyone knows Rumple tried to blackmail Hook, but no one knows Hook tried to blackmail Rumple first, and more than likely never will!
Yeah…CS will get their TLK to break Emma’s DO Curse….I’m still in utter shock/disgust/horror that this is the direction they’re more than likely going, like @JO said…they’re basically stealing Beauty and the Beast ending and giving it to CS……seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
In other news, I got to add the show Merlin to my list. Well its already on my list but I got to get to it. Is it a good adaption of Arthuian legend and such? Or is it just a prequel. Im watching it to get caught up on my merlin mythos before S5 starts so I can atleast formulate some kind of good theories. Like Alice in WL, King Arthur and those folks were just one of the tales I couldn’t get into. So yeah, I’ll have to get to that >> Happy Thursday everyone btw.
Its a prequel, and a brilliant one!!!!!! Colin Morgan was excellent as Merlin!!!!!!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I just wonder…what is it going to take to put OUAT back on track!
Here’s the thing: nothing. I don’t mean that as a hatred, I think it’s just a standard fact at this point. The problem is that you could do a total reversal of what happened to us that made us rather bitter and angry, but the result would be that the other side (the CSers and even to an extent the SQers) would be angry that claim that the show was going down hill. This is why you don’t play to your fandom. This is why you stick to your original guns and not deviate based on what is “hot”
TRUTH!!! Just Truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the saddest thing is…Henry got screwed over the most out of this entire situation! He finally had a dad, a wonderful male role model that he could look up to who was a hero and one of the realest characters on the show!
Hook’s relevance in the show…what is it besides being with Emma? I mean even Robin Hood now has a storyline besides just being with Regina, he’s got to deal with the Wicked Witch of the West being his baby mama! After NL Arc, I just never saw Hook’s importance anymore, I thought he was just gonna go sail the seven seas with his pirates or even with Tinkerbelle, boy was I wrong! He has become exactly what Regina said…The Charmings Pirate Mascot, someone whose only there when either PLOT or EMMA. With Neal, he had a storyline being Henry’s father, being the Dark One’s Son, and being Emma’s baby daddy. Not bashing Hook’s character or anything….just wondering…what is his importance and what does he bring to the show besides being Emma’s lover boy?
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I’m still crying tears of joy after that Arrow Finale!
Take a lesson Adam and Eddy…this is how you give a happy ending!
FINALLY!!! A SHIP THAT DIDN’T GET BLOWN UP!
Yes, Oliver will have to get his marriage to Nyssa annulled, but he’s with the woman he loves, free from a dangerous lifestyle, riding into the sunset with his true love…and he’s finally happy!
The Ending Emma should have gotten with Neal!!!
I just wonder…what is it going to take to put OUAT back on track!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Another thing they might do is continue along this biblical path 1. Emma absorbs everyone’s darkness, so that everyone gets the chance to continue their lives, starting with a clean slate. 2. Emma dies. killing the dark curse, and the characters’ darkness along with her. 3. Merlin or some other god-like figure resurrects her, or she becomes a bright star in the night sky.This actually….this could actually make a lot of sense, and I definitely see this as a possibility of the route! Brilliant headcannon @onceaholic!
The only slight issue is that that would be a perfect way to end the series all together, and if they pull this off in Season 5 and are renewed for Season 6, who could be the new villain if Emma sucked everyone’s darkness out?
It’d have to be the original darkness….Hades type of figure!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Seeing this fanart…actually makes me a little excited to see Black Swan.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
ALL OF THAT @RUMPLESGIRL! ALL OF THAT!!!!!!!!!!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
