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"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I’m hoping that if they’re going to do Black Swan…she needs to be hurtful towards everyone!
Even though she knows how sorry they may feel….maybe Black Swan will serve as a venting of repressed emotions Emma hid away for so long…kinda like how the Shattered Sight curse would have worked on Emma where she sees nothing but the worst in people, and takes it to the extreme.
Everyone wants to see Emma really confront and give hell to her parents for shoving her into a box and shipping her to Maine, Regina for killing Graham, Zelena being responsible for Neal’s death, Rumpelstilskin for all the manipulations he’s done, Hook for trying to woo her while in competition with Neal…if Emma is going to be the Black Swan, she needs to be uncaring, wrathful, hurtful, and pissed 24/7!
And I think to break this Black Swan curse should be the only person alive whose never wronged her….Henry. In a way the prophecy that Henry would be the Dark One’s undoing will still come to pass as his true love can break the curse on his mom.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
i imagine CS kids wanting to know how the 1st meet and cs having to tell them that story, poor kids will be scared for life, LOL
CS Baby: “Mommy, how did you and daddy meet?”
Emma: “Well kid, your dad was hiding under a pile of dead bodies and–”
CS Baby: “Wait, what?”
Emma: “Hold on, I’m not finished. Anyway, the sparks really flew when he left me in a magicked underground cave to die and he called me….oh, hun, what was it?”
Hook: “Dried up….dead…and useless.”
Emma: “That’s it! I knew since then he was the one.”
CS Baby: “That doesn’t sound like love to me…” Emma: “What are you talking about, the chemistry was like, so totally there the entire time and if you didn’t see it, you’re just blind or something. Gah, such a hater. Whatevez.”
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
1) Where did Emma go?
I’ve got ten cookies on either Avalon or Camelot!
2) What is Merlin’s backstory?
If they stick to legend that Uther was “Kill all magical beings” type of king….I can see Merlin coming from an orphan background, whose parents were killed while under Uther’s reign. And for some reason…I’m not seeing the long beard, pointed hat figure we know as Merlin, I’m willing to bet five cookies that this Merlin will be a thirty looking something year old who is still all powerful as we presume. He was best friends with Arthur, who later in a need for magic went to Morgana Le Fay, whose the original creator of the Dark One, cursed him with the curse. Then Merlin had to take all that darkness out of Arthur and seal it into the Sword in the Stone for a while till he found a permanent placement, which is when the darkness eventually went into a dagger.
3) Will we see Arthur/Guienvere/Lancelot?
If we didn’t I’d be highly upset….It wouldn’t be a Merlin Tale if that wasn’t told! But like RG said….Lancelot will just be mentioned and that is all.
4) Who was the original Dark One?
I’m going to say Arthur Pendragon….Morgana created the Dark One curse, and cursed Arthur with it, that is until Merlin sealed away all of that darkness.
5) Who will have control of Emma’s dagger?
I’m going with Morgana….I think they’re going to hype Emma up as the Season 5A Villain more so, but it’s going to come out she’s just being controlled by Morgana, the real 5A Villainess. The Rumple/Zelena situation all over again.
6) Will we see Zelena again? Will we see August again? Will we see Ursula again?
Zelena…I’d say definitely. August and Ursula….not really.
7) Will we other lands besides the EF and (maybe) Camelot?
5A I think will mainly be Camelot, Avalon, and Storybrooke….5B we may see Agrabah if Jafar is the next villain. Maybe even Wonderland to see what happened to Anastasia.
8) Who is Lily’s father?
I wanna say Merlin, but then again….I’m not too sure. Based on the star tattoo on Lily, and the Sorcerer’s hat having stars….I guess I will just go with Merlin. #Merlicent….
9) Will Rumple wake up? When?
I suppose he’ll wake up…perhaps toward the middle of 5A. Maybe Belle’s TLK will do it.
10) Will Henry get a new quill?
Sadly I’m afraid that story is over and done with….the entire Author thing will never be mentioned again until the series finale perhaps.
11) Is the Apprentice dead?
Definetly. He’s toast.
12) How will the SB gang find Emma?
A magic door will be opened that will lead right into Camelot, but only a few can go in. I can see Henry actually sneaking off to join this trip that more than likely David, Regina, Robin, & Hook will lead….Snow White, Belle, & Will are on baby sitting duty with Roland and Baby Snowflake, and to keep watch on Zelena.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
And let’s just talk about these horrible plot twists…
Neal being killed off so Hook can have Emma to himself…do they not register that Henry would be losing a father before making this terrible decision! Do they not see that you are continuing what can be considered by most as a generational curse to not have Neal raise his son, like Rumple should have raised him, and Pan before them, and Pan’s father before them! This was the one opportunity to end that fatherless line, but they screwed it up to make a ship happen! Yes, we all wanted SwanFire, but if we couldn’t have the icing on the cake, at least give us the cake and let Neal have the opportunity to raise his son!
Snow and Charming have become moralizing baby snatchers….seriously, I much more preferred Seasons 1, 2, 3 than this Season 4….their brightest moment was when Snow was fixing the power outage, and when they were cursed with Shattered Sight, and the most recent AU Episode. Besides that…Snowing haven’t really been interesting in quite a while.
Rumpelstilskin has an instant redemption, I mean after all the hell he’s raised this past season, he gets the purest heart on the show without even working for it! I would have at least preferred to see Rumple work for his redemption as a mortal in Season 5 with Belle by his side. And am I the only one concerned that Hook is going to try to make a play for Rumple’s life since he is now human…..and actually get away with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He spent two hundred to three hundred years hunting this man, you can’t tell me he’s not going to try to come for him because he’s been this dating Emma for all of what…three months in Once time?
Regina is infertile, seriously???!!! So Zelena can have a child, but Regina can’t??? A slap in the face for anyone who wanted an OutlawQueen Princess….somebody has something against OutlawQueen in that writing room! Regina has suffered, and has been screwed over more than just about anyone else, thank you Isaac for finally pointing that out, and to have to watch your sister give birth to your soul mate’s baby….and you can’t have one for him yourself….what writing is this!!! Isaac said that somebody in high places was looking out for Regina, so I’m holding out that they at least make her fertile enough to have at least one child!
Robin Hood’s character being flipped flop….never in any series besides soap operas have I seen a character flip flop as much as Robin Hood. It’s like there are four different writers writing his character in the same episode, and Season 4 Robin is definitely different from Season 3. I don’t know what happened in Season 4, but can we get Season 3 version of Robin Hood back….no way would he just dismiss Regina when she’s coming to him out of concern that Marian is Zelena! No way would Robin Hood shag Zelena only a few weeks after he left Regina, unless what Sean Maguire said was true and Zelena got Robin drunk and took advantage of him.
WickedSisters….had so much freaking potential but it’s gotten (beeped) on too much! And I still say that if Adam and Eddy still wanted to pull it off successfully, that it should have been done during the Frozen Arc where the true love of sisterhood is front and center. The things Elsa and Anna could have taught Regina and Zelena would have been worthwhile, and don’t get me wrong…it would have still been Emma front and center, but just seeing the relationship Elsa and Anna had could have encouraged WickedSisters to try to pursue something akin to that.
Hook literally getting away with everything he’s ever done in life…and they want us to believe that all the bad things he did for Pan was go out and get cakes. Yeah…I don’t think so Adam and Eddy.
And they think we can’t see the slow downhill OUAT has become, a show that has become polluted with super crazy stalker fans, shipping wars, character assassinations, terrible plot driven stories, it’s a fandom pleasing show that has lost all self-respect to give the fans what they want and not the truth that the fans need! And they don’t think we see or know these travesties….but Adam and Eddy….
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
On a serious note, I think this particular thread has sort of become the grab-bag for all OUAT “dissenters” — not only people who are Swanfire shippers, but anyone who is articulating a critique of the show.
Which of course we aren’t supposed to do because “it’s just a TV show” and we’re supposed to just “sit back and enjoy the ride.” Cause media isn’t worthy of being critiqued!? Because it makes them uncomfortable to admit that their favorite show/character has some very serious problems and therefore let’s IGNORE THEM (sigh. I’m in a bad mood tonight)
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Soooo….at Spooky Con….some fans actually stalked Lana Parrilla into the bathroom and asked her to sign photoshopped inappropriate pictures, and questioning her on her personal things. And practically stalked her the entire trip at Spooky Con…..if she starts declining to go to these events, the bad apples in the bunch are to blame.
This fandom is becoming slowly more toxic….it’s almost like they can’t separate a character from a real life person with real feelings….evidence of this is the huge Michael Raymond James bashing, simply because his character was a love interest for Emma which is also the same thing now happening to Sean Maguire concerning OutlawQueen. The bashing Ginnifer Goodwin got when she tried to point out how weird SwanQueen was because it was borderline incest. JMo has had it done to her….and now people are literally stalking Lana….what more can this fandom do to this cast is beyond me?
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
So much truth…
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
By contrast, when it comes to Hook, and CS more broadly, there’s this weird flatness to it. Maybe because Hook’s primary relationship outside of Emma appears to be with Rumple, which at this point has become so repetitive it adds nothing to his character development.
to quote Regina, he’s the pirate mascot. he adds nothing to group scenes but must be there for…reasons
I’m willing to bet Rumple and Regina are honestly in their heads like “What are you still doing here Hook?” whenever he just pops up.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
According to Lana Parrilla at the Spooky Empire yesterday, she and the entire OUAT Cast threw MRJ a big party at a local bar before he left Once, and they all just had a great night out together. At least everyone was there for him….I wish they had pics to share!!
It’s at the 13:45 Mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY8CTuHUEWA
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
