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What is it about OUAT that somehow unleashed all the trolls?
First : The Showrunners and cast did not put this fandom in its place back when that shipping thing started getting out of hand and actors were getting tons of disrespectful comments and tweets from entitle fans who think they know everything up down right left and in between therefore must express what ever they want when they want no matter how rude or crude. Second: Hope and Happy Endings and True Love, fantasy blended with reality. And this show became a beacon that if their faves can get a happy ending with that significant other then by darnit they can get this fanatical happy ending as well. (I am guilty of that but for different reasons. Neal’s death hurt me because I wanted to know second chances were a true thing, that despite hardships in the end you can have joy and happiness with family and friends and it would all work out because during that time I was experiencing familial tragedy and hardships that I look to this show for a positive and uplifting message that second chances can occur, that despite suffering in life a happy ending awaited all. And honestly the brutal truth at least for me was that this was not the show to look for those concepts or that message.) Third: Shipping it got out of hand it took over the show the fandom the writing everything. This is my take on it. I am probably more wrong than right. But that is just my thoughts on the subject.
Agree, I never saw writers, cast and crew so afraid of the fans like OUAT one, i have to say that there are bad apples in every part of this fandom, i know @wickedregal will say SQ fans are the biggest bullies, bc of Sean stuff, but i can say this and is not just bc im a MRJ fan, every part of OUAT fandom has reasons to complain about CS fans and is without a doubt that the part of the fandom where there are more bad apples exist and the one that everyone involved in the show has most afraid, is not surprising that Cs stuff are pure fan service, that they are the only ship that is happy.
Actually I agree with this sentiment…Nearly half of the SQ are petty, rude, and downright disrespectful to not only the show’s fans but the cast itself….However, there are definetly more than just half in the CS Fandom. And in spite of my own opinion of the SQ Fandom, a part of me definetly feels they are in someway entitled to their wrath because without a doubt does this show bait them, I mean they literally dangle SwanQueen in front of their face just to keep them watching, So with Adam and Eddy’s constant baiting, I do think SQ should be pissed, but they take it out on the wrong people, aka Sean, Colin, and few times in the past MRJ. Their anger and bitterness should solely be placed on Adam, Eddy, & ABC Network.
On the other hand with CS…I’ve got no sympathy. They have gotten literally everything they ever wanted, and still complain for more, more, & more! There are few, and I do mean few Hookers/CS, who are absolute sweethearts, but the majority in that fandom are as toxic as they come. There’s even a war now between OutlawQueen & CaptainSwan over everything that’s happened, including their constant harassment to Sean Maguire who only liked a tweet, and their insane hatred for Lana Parrilla.
But at the end of the day, when you combine every part of this fandom and separate the good from the bad…it’d at least come out to 65% Bad Apples & 35% Good Apples, so it’s toxic all around in the OUAT Fandom as a whole. But I agree with everything @Ranisha, @Rainbow, & @Slurpeez posted! In the end, unless you’re a fan of guyliner and doe-eyed savior, it’s like Cruella said, the game is most definetly rigged!
[adrotate group="5"]"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
She had a lot more to say at the 31:50 mark, too. She basically said that part of the reason she even wanted to start directing was so that she could have more say in what she works on (despite basically saying before that she probably wouldn’t direct an episode of OUAT): Jennifer Morrison: “When you get involved in a project, you might love the script, you might really love the character, you might believe in it, you might do so much work, and you might be great every day, but you have no control over what parts they choose, you have no control over how they cut it together. And so there could be a lot of great ingredients to a project and it could still end up being a really sh!ty meal. Is that okay to say? *nervous laughter*
Well that’s telling. I think JMo is slowly coming around to the same feelings as Ginny and Bobby. I think S5A was a wake up call; we know she put a lot of research into trying to create the Dark Swan and in the end, it ended up being all about Hook and Dark Swan wasn’t really that Dark. That must have been frustrating that she has no say in the development of her character anymore–Sean said that they don’t really get a voice anymore (at least in his case)
All that promotion for Dark Swan…all those teasers about the big bad savior gone dark…and she was really just the average evil of a middle school bully. JMo had to have been pissed off that they changed her storyline…that first episode 5×01’s ending with Dark Swan storming into Granny’s to give her warning about punishing her family and friends, is the only Dark Swan moment that lived up to the hype, and showed that there was an entirely different story planned for Emma.
Especially this costume that I don’t think we ever saw…Dark Swan was supposed to have been one of the worst and most powerful villains ever faced! Why did they change her storyline?!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Or even perhaps her uncle? Perhaps the Sultan had another child after Jafar, who felt rigged of his birth right claim to the throne. Though that would put Jafar and Jasmine in a sort of Scar and Simba situation….
You didn’t watch WL, huh?
The Sultan had 2 sons, Jafar and his half brother. Jafar’s mother was a poor woman who died when he was a kid, and on her death bed she told him that his father was the Sultan, so he should go to the palace and he’d be looked after. The Sultan believed the Jafar was his kid, but refused to acknowledge him as his son and treated him like crap. The Sultan had another son, who lived in the palace and was his heir. The Sultan ended up drowning Jafar, and when he believed he was dead, he had his body tossed out with the trash. But Jafar wasn’t dead, and when he was all grown up, and all full of magic, he went back to the palace to confront his father. That’s when he kidnapped the Sultan and killed his half brother. So once Jafar was done, the Sultan and his heir were both gone. (Jafar kept his father locked in a cage until such time as he’d managed to collect the genies in order to change the laws of magic so he could FORCE his father to love him. After which he killed him.) And I don’t think we were ever told who the new ruler of Agrabah ended up being, but I would assume it would have been a sibling of the former Sultan’s if one existed?I think I literally caught the last two episodes of WL!!! XD I didn’t focus on anything but Will & Anastasia, so I mainly caught up on their story alone! LOL! I don’t think we’ve seen the Evil Cousin Plot done on OUAT yet, so my next guess would be yours @Phee about the Sultan having a brother.
I just really need them to get this story right, and I hope they don’t try to go for shock value as they always do…..we really don’t need Jasmine turning out to be the Genie, who Aladdin freed and fell in love with, but genie laws prohibited them from such a thing so Aladdin made a deal with Jafar, and that’s where his downfall was or something.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
The perfect gif of Adam & Eddy trying to sell us this crap:
The mere fact JMo said aloud that she was instructed to stay close to Colin, and Emilie jokingly pointing it out sort of gives it away that even they have discussed the wool they’re struggling to pull over certain fans eyes. Instead of being themselves, they have to be their characters, so ABC or Adam/Eddy must have some serious control issues.
And Colin really is a nice guy, but like you all said…he’s not the “hot guy who’ll rip his shirt off to impress the fans”…he seems much more quiet, meek, and humble than that, and seems to want to be taken seriously as an actor rather than being drooled over all the time. And that’s what Adam & Eddy aren’t even giving him, and when they tried to…it came at the expense of JMo’s important character arc in Season 5. At this point, it nearly looks as if they don’t know how to tell Hook or Emma’s story without mingling it with their “true love”. (eye roll)
Hook can’t stand on his own, and Emma is being slowly pulled to the same level….and I’m sure JMo & Colin sees this and it frustrates them to no end. Not to mention having to deal with a crazed fandom that knows no boundaries, “Colifer” much like “Seana” or “Remille” is fine if it’s just a BroTP, but shipping them in real life is where the problem comes! There is a serious issue when this fandom cannot see fiction from reality! And because Adam/Eddy or ABC don’t speak out against this, they’re encouraging this behavior by “instructing” the actors to remain as their characters 24/7 when under the public spot light.
They character assassinated and sidelined Ginny & Josh after Season 3, flip flopped and destroyed an essential part of Bobby’s storyline, have literally tormented the hell out of Lana’s character, weakened JMo’s character to the near point of not even being recognizable…the original Core 5 have been so mistreated by this show, at this point…I could see the possible Season 7 being nothing but guest stars, shiny things, retcons, & PLOT…but then again, haven’t we been getting that already?
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Especially if we see Aladdin was one of the victims of Rumple.
I was thinking more along the lines of someone else having made Aladdin a Saviour for whatever reason, and Rumple heard about it, and then included the same concept as a component of his own Dark Curse.
That would actually be interesting!!! If maybe perhaps Jafar had his own version of the Dark Curse and Aladdin had been made the savior to break that curse, which is where Rumplestilskin would’ve gotten his inspiration for it. But then it’d raise the question, who killed the thing they loved most to enact the curse?
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Except In-show Timeline wise, it hasn’t been 4 years. It has been roughly 9 months – 1 year (If that).
Yeah appears they stated again yesterday, they are still in 2013 in teh show, so they are not in 2014 like many people say, this show is awful with dates, timelines and math * looking at you Hnery, your timeline is a mess, with being 2013 and having 13 you were born before your parents meet*
I really wish they would go ahead and do a two-three year timeskip just so Henry’s age could catch up to Jared, but then again, I don’t because I fear it would be yet another amnesiac curse happening!
Okay… so….how does Princess Jasmine fit into this? Wouldn’t she need to be Jafar’s sister to still be a princess (which honestly, I wouldn’t put past this show. For non-WL fans, Jafar is the son of the sultan of Agrabah in the once-verse).
Jasmine could be Jafar’s cousin? If Jafar’s father had a brother who took over as Sultan? Can’t remember if they mentioned what happened to Agrabah after Jafar killed his half brother and kidnapped their father?
Or even perhaps her uncle? Perhaps the Sultan had another child after Jafar, who felt rigged of his birth right claim to the throne. Though that would put Jafar and Jasmine in a sort of Scar and Simba situation….
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
JMo & Colin seem as if they’re constantly caught between a rock and a hard place.
I think Colin is sick of being “that hot guy.” Surely that’s not why anyone gets into acting.
This…This…& This!!!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I think JMo, Ginny Goodwin, Josh Dallas, and Robert Carlyle are all over this show. Perhaps the only actors who seem to really enjoy it still are Lana Parrilla, Emilie de Ravin, Rebecca Mader and Colin O’Donoghue.
I think Ginny, Bobby and jmo are done, the others enjoy it, bc for me at least the 1st 3 will have other jobs easily, but i cant see the rest of the cast, finding great jobs after ouat, and i bet most of them will live of cons for sometime.
Ginny & Bobby are absolutely done with the whole thing….Josh just seems to be putting on a brave face for the sake of peace….Lana is just doing the best she can for her fans, while grinning and baring it….Bex & Emilie are like @Slurpeez & @RG said, just happy to be working….JMo & Colin seem as if they’re constantly caught between a rock and a hard place.
Putting it simply…the cast are only still on this show because 1) they see each other as family and support & 2) Money is good as Bobby said. So they’re no longer doing it because the show is any good…I wouldn’t be surprised if they sometimes have to talk each other into staying another season.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I try not to put a lot of stock in rumors but there are things floating around that Bobby just simply didn’t want to deal with the Remile fans and I certainly don’t blame him for that. Plus, over the past few years it’s become apparent that his love for the show is dwindling.
After ruining his character and his storyline…I don’t think any of us would blame Bobby for leaving after this season. Unfortunately, it’d also mean we’d probably have to say goodbye to Emilie because I doubt Adam & Eddy would know what to do with Belle if Rumple leaves.
And I agree with @Slurpeez…I just don’t think Ginny’s feeling the show like she used to back in Season 1/2. You know, back when it was about Snow White, David, Regina, Rumplestilskin, & Emma….and not Ships + Shiny Things.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
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I’m 100% convinced that Bobby’s so over this show!!! XD
But I wonder what was Ginny’s reason?
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
