March 26, 2012 at 12:13 am #134021SlurpeezParticipant
Did Mr. Gold make a deal with Regina behind Emma’s back? He obviously planted the key in Mary Margaret’s cell while working for Regina. Yet, both MM and Emma made it back to the police station before Regina arrived at 8 am. He told Regina Emma was just too “resourceful” for Regina’s plot. Was Mr. Gold double crossing Regina or Emma? Is he playing both sides? I have a feeling Mr. Gold is still on Emma’s side and is just causing Regina to think he’s on her side. Yet, Mr. Gold can be so conniving that I’m not sure anymore. Just when I think I’m starting to understand him, he does something unexpected.[adrotate group="5"]
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal CassidyMarch 26, 2012 at 1:34 am #139740darcyfarrowParticipant
He’s gotta be double-crossing Regina. After what she’s done to him in both FTL and SB, there’s no way he would want to side with her. The look on his face when he got the cup back from her was pure hatred. No deal could be tempting enough to overcome that hatred. And I believe him when he says he’s invested in MM’s future. He knows that fighting fair won’t be enough though, so he’s doing, as he told Emma, the effective thing. I have faith in him. The only question in my mind is whether Emma and MM are in on the double-cross.
Hang in there, Rumple/Gold fans. We have a rough couple of weeks ahead, but he’ll prove himself ta good guy…just, in his own fashion.March 26, 2012 at 2:22 am #139749hjbauParticipant
I think that Gold is working for himself as he always is. Even when he is working with Emma or with Regina he is really working for himself. I think that he put the key in the jail before Emma came to speak to him about helping her because Mary had already found it before Emma went to speak to Gold. I don’t think Rumpel is a good guy at all though.March 26, 2012 at 2:35 am #139756SnickerdoodleParticipant
I’m with Hjbau, it is all about what gets Mr. Gold the farthest in his plan. I think he knows Emma has power, but notice he is not helping her find out the truth, he is letting her discover it other ways, so he is not eager to have another power player to contend with at this point. I can’t believe he is on Regina’s side at all, knowing the rivalry between them in FTL although they obviously consulted one another. Regina did nothing to help him when he was imprisoned. She is totally about herself and everyone’s unhappiness, which is her victory as I recall from the pilot. Mr. Gold is also about himself and his agenda and whatever it takes to further it to get there. If it is in his best interest he will side with Regina while it suits him or Emma, but it’s all about his best interest. Our problem is that we don’t know exactly what Mr. Gold’s agenda is… we just keep theorizing. Forum writer Phee has written a theory that suggests perhaps Mr. Gold’s agenda is to be free from his curse and all magic. I like that idea, but it’s still just a theory.March 26, 2012 at 2:44 am #139758RumplesGirlKeymaster
I refuse to believe that Mr. Gold is working with Regina. I think he and Emma worked out some sort of plan last episode that we did not get to see. It will play out later in the season. But I think that Gold/Rumple’s main agenda ever since Belle was to take down Regina in whatever he could, even if it meant seeming to help her out and work with her (ie: giving her the curse and telling her how to make it work) because it was part of HIS plan."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 26, 2012 at 2:57 am #139764BelleOfTheBallParticipant
Rumple/Gold is like the Severus Snape of OUAT – I don’t think we are going to know if he is good or bad until the end when he proves himself. For now, I have to agree that he is playing both sides to get what he wants. I can’t believe he is working with Regina, at least not completely. I think perhaps, like the fire that caused Emma to be Sheriff, Gold does things knowing how they will turn out in the end. Perhaps this is just a way to convince Regina that he is more with her than Emma – or perhaps we are going to see Gold fail at MM trial and work with the EQ for a short time. Regina knows he is cunning – I believe she realizes he is about as trustworthy as her. And we have no idea it wasn’t Rumples idea for the hatter to find the escaped MM. He could have tipped him off and we don’t know it yet.
So many questions, so little answers! But thats what i love about the show – being caught on the edge of your seat at the end of each episode! 😀March 26, 2012 at 2:59 am #139766hjbauParticipant
It seems that they helped each other in fairytale land just as they are here. They did deals with each other. And Rumpel knows nothing about Belle so i don’t think be blames the queen for that. If anything we know he blames Belle’s father for that. So Rumpel and the Queen’s relationship seems the same as it was in fairytale land. The two of them work together when it suits their purposes. I don’t think that the Queen could have done anything to free Rumpel from the dungeon cave.
I don’t think that Rumpel’s plan has to do with the Queen. I think it has something to do with being free from the curse and maybe getting rid of magic all together or maybe just dying.
I don’t think that Gold and Emma made a plan that we didn’t see because Mary already had the key in her hand before Emma went to look for Gold and speak to him about helping her. So the key had already been planted at that time. Rumpel had already made the deal with Regina at that time.March 26, 2012 at 3:27 pm #139813PheeParticipant
At the end of the day, Mr Gold is on TeamMrGold, but he’ll play along with whatever other team will help him achieve his goal. It’s my belief that his ultimate goal is to be victorious over Regina, so he needs Emma to come out on top. But Emma’s not ready yet, she doesn’t believe yet, she’s not powerful enough yet. So if he leads Regina on, makes her believe that she still has the upper hand and he’s not trying to defy her, that buys Emma more time.March 26, 2012 at 4:07 pm #139824weedithParticipant
Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.
I think both Gold and Regina are using each other and neither one has a scrap of loyalty toward the other. Mr. Gold is definitely pursuing his own agenda, but since Emma’s goal of defeating Regina coincides with his goals, he will “help” her, for his own purposes. I agree with belleoftheball that Gold’s ultimate goals and nature will be murky until the end of the series, and he will flip when we expect him to flop and vice versa. Which of course makes for an awesome character IMHO.March 26, 2012 at 4:46 pm #139837Daniel J. LewisKeymaster
Also keep in mind that Mr. Gold placed the key in Mary Margaret’s prison cell before Emma had come to him and told him that she approved of his results.
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