March 28, 2012 at 12:46 pm #140162killianhookfanParticipant
I re-watched the episode yesterday and found it interesting that when Regina and Gold were talking in the hallway Regina said “The only reason I agreed to make a deal with you was . . .” which implied to me that Gold went to HER to her to make the deal. That means that Gold wanted something. So it appears that what happened is that Gold got what HE wanted out of the deal and Regina didn’t. So from my point of view I don’t think that Gold is working with Regina at all. He still appears to be working his own agenda only now he has Emma to help him do it – only she doesn’t realize she is helping him.March 28, 2012 at 1:34 pm #140178SlurpeezParticipant
@ rumplegoldfan: I agree with your assessment. It seemed like Mr. Gold approached Regina for a deal to make her think he was siding with her. Yet, all along, he was planning to offer his lawyer services to MM in order to beat Regina at her own game. He probably thought Emma would also approach him about working together.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal CassidyMarch 28, 2012 at 6:25 pm #140200hjbauParticipant
If Rumpel just wants the curse broken then why did he help Regina to do the curse in the first place?March 28, 2012 at 6:38 pm #140204PheeParticipant
IMO he needed Regina to enact the curse to remove everyone from the magical world, then he wants the final curse broken so he could be free of his own personal curse, strip Regina of her power as well, and put an end to all magic.March 28, 2012 at 6:39 pm #140205hjbauParticipant
I do think that the put an end to all magic theory is a good one. It at least explains what he is doing.March 28, 2012 at 6:52 pm #140208SlurpeezParticipant
“If Rumpel just wants the curse broken then why did he help Regina to do the curse in the first place?” That is the essential question the OUAT creators Kitsis and Horowitz want us to ponder.
Kitsis also brought up the idea that the whole curse may have been designed to benefit Rumplestiltskin and not the Evil Queen. “Why would somebody create a curse that they didn’t themselves employ and for what reason?” Kitsis asked.
“That is a question we’re going to answer this year.” Robert Carlyle added when talking to TVLine. “You realize that maybe Rumplestiltskin [didn’t create the curse] for her at all. Maybe he was doing it for himself.”
Which brings up the biggest question in all of this: What benefit could come to Mr. Gold in the cursed world of Storybrooke?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal CassidyMarch 28, 2012 at 7:29 pm #140213killianhookfanParticipant
I think it’s because the Dark Curse is more powerful than his own curse. I think he has found some way to use the Dark Curse and the Love Potion to bring back Bae, and then has figured out a way to destroy the Dark Curse which will also destroy his own curse which will ultimately destroy all magic.March 28, 2012 at 8:25 pm #140219weedithParticipant
Rumple has repeatedly said “ALL magic comes with a price,” so I hi k it makes a lot of sense that he wants to put an end to magic altogether. It has never really done him much good in the long run. There is always that price to be paid which is ultimately too high.
I like it.April 1, 2012 at 6:57 pm #140528celesstarrParticipant
I just rewatched the end of the Heart of Darkness episode(scene with Emma and Mr. Gold) and then the beginning of the Hat Trick episode(scene where Emma/Mr. Gold find that MM escaped).
Seems to me that Mr. Gold made the deal with Regina to implant the key in MM’s cell BEFORE Emma came to him for help at the end of episode 16. When he made the deal with Regina it was probably to suit his own purposes. BUT, After Emma’s visit with Mr. Gold on that same night they both head on to the Sheriff’s station…probably due to Mr. Gold’s prompting. Without Mr. Gold, Emma would probably be on her way home to rest for the night.
Now, that Emma has revealed to Mr. Gold that she wants to do “whatever it takes” to take down Regina’s charade, he’is on her side now. I mean, without Mr. Gold’s needing to visit MM that night(all of a sudden?? up to that point he was in the middle of taking inventory!!), Emma would not have found out that MM escaped in time to look for her and bring her back before the arraignment the following morning.
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