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Double Crossing?

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season One › 1×17 "Hat Trick" › Double Crossing?

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  • March 27, 2012 at 6:55 pm #139997
    hjbau
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    Maybe Jefferson only leaves his house at night to map the area. I think Regina could easily just not have noticed. She doesn’t seem to have noticed that Ashley gave birth.

    @Phee wrote:

    Killing her is far too simplistic and not at all satisfying. If he wanted to do that, he’d have offed her years ago back in FTL. What he wants is to destroy her. Strip her of her power, humiliate her, crush her ego. That’s how he’s planning to beat her IMO.

    I don’t know. Rumpel doesn’t seem to care enough. I don’t think he has any reason, that we have seen so far, to want to destroy the queen. I think that he is just using her for his purposes, but why would he be worried about destroying her or humiliating her or any of that. And besides the queen was already there in the fairytale land before the curse. She was not a queen anymore. She has lost her power and the people had turned on her. She had already fallen very low so if that was Rumpel’s goal then there would be no reason to do anything because the queen as already there. I think it has to be something else.

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    March 27, 2012 at 8:11 pm #140031
    mia
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    Jefferson can’t have been trapped in the house for 28 years. He has a map of the SB bounderies that, according to him, he’s made himself. I doubt he made that by looking through his telescopes …

    March 27, 2012 at 8:13 pm #140033
    Snickerdoodle
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    I just rewatched the episode today. He said he had been trapped in the house for 28 years… ’til Emma came.

    He also knows bad things happen to FT characters when they try to leave SB.

    March 27, 2012 at 8:25 pm #140040
    hjbau
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    Jefferson could have made the map since Emma came into town. The real question is where did he get his food. Hammerspace bag.

    March 27, 2012 at 8:30 pm #140043
    mia
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    That just doesn’t make any sense … Couldn’t he mean that he lived 28 years in the house, figuratively? He could go out, but really, why do so if nothing ever changed.

    March 27, 2012 at 8:35 pm #140044
    Slurpeez
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    @ mia: I agree. I think Jefferson meant he felt liked he was trapped in his house….not that he actually was under house arrest.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    March 28, 2012 at 12:37 am #140068
    hjbau
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    I don’t know. I think he meant literally because he was trapped in Wonderland so he was then trapped in the house. Either way though i guess.

    March 28, 2012 at 12:58 am #140072
    Snickerdoodle
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    I get such a kick out of how we all see the same scene and hear the same thing but can’t come up with the same answer 😆 Of course, that’s what makes being a part of these forums so much fun!

    March 28, 2012 at 6:04 am #140130
    sam993
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    Phee:

    …would be a classic case of “two birds, one stone” as far as Regina was concerned, so I can totally see her planning it that way, though I think Gold wants Emma to keep her job. So I can totally see that Gold’s words to Emma about “find her or it’s your badge” would have ensured that she got out there and found her and brought her back in time. Then Regina gets all irritated about how the plan didn’t work (which is a WIN for Gold coz he likes to watch her squirm), but he can shrug and say, “Well I played my part, but it’s not like I can actually control their actions, so it’s not my fault she came back.”

    Ya, now that I think about it. It would be quite silly for Mr. Gold to want Emma to lose her job, but maybe the deal is worth more than her job on the other hand.

    March 28, 2012 at 12:39 pm #140160
    obisgirl
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    @slurpeez108 wrote:

    Did Mr. Gold make a deal with Regina behind Emma’s back? He obviously planted the key in Mary Margaret’s cell while working for Regina. Yet, both MM and Emma made it back to the police station before Regina arrived at 8 am.

    I don’t think Emma was even aware that Gold and Regina were working together, other wise she wouldn’t have looked so surprised that Mary Margaret was gone. But props to Robert Carlyle, I did not suspect that he was in on it with Regina — although I probably should have suspected that earlier.

    @slurpeez108 wrote:

    I have a feeling Mr. Gold is still on Emma’s side and is just causing Regina to think he’s on her side.

    I absolutely believe he is on Emma’s side because he wants the curse broken. This is a power struggle between him and Regina. I think he’s going to keep Regina thinking that he is on her side but quietly, undoing everything behind her back to help Emma. In a way, he is good except he’s being more devious about it.

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