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hat about right? Nobody with the time and/or memory to mourn Neal Cassidy? Yep. Seems about right.
100% agree. Nobody is being allowed time to grieve. It’s: get on with the show.
That’s pretty much Once’s theme song. They never have time to stand still for a sec. They never have time for anything, cause the big bad is wreaking havoc. If they didn’t try to squish one big story into only half a season then maybe they would have the time.
Yup. And that’s why I’m predicting we’ll hear Neal’s name a grand total of 4 more times this season before we never hear it again.
Once in 317 in passing from Emma
Once in 320 (because I’m predicting that’s when they save Rumple)
Twice in 322 as a rallying cry “do it for Neal!” or something.
And then, knowing this show, he’ll be forgotten.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"hat about right? Nobody with the time and/or memory to mourn Neal Cassidy? Yep. Seems about right.
100% agree. Nobody is being allowed time to grieve. It’s: get on with the show.
That’s pretty much Once’s theme song. They never have time to stand still for a sec. They never have time for anything, cause the big bad is wreaking havoc. If they didn’t try to squish one big story into only half a season then maybe they would have the time.
It is horrifically sad to me that they aren’t giving the characters (specifically Emma and Rumple) any real time to grieve for their lost love/son. I’m still bitter that Henry doesn’t remember his father and that Neal died without ever seeing his son again. Screw shipping….that was wrong on EVERY SINGLE LEVEL. 😥
We are never going to get our Kitchen Table episode (or the Kitchen Table half of S4 like we’ve all talked about a million times) and that makes me really sad. They went from one extreme to the other by sacrificing great character development for over plotting and too much action in every single episode and I was having that problem with this show before Neal died two eps ago. This plan might be gaining some of the younger viewers who have the attention spans of doorknobs but they’re hemorrhaging viewers like me who’ve been watching the show for the characters and wanting to see them grow and change over time. I honestly don’t think they can ever go back to that now either. 🙁
No cousin news today but again, no news is good news right now. I’ve been busy the last two nights so I haven’t gotten to really check in on how he’s doing but my aunt would call if there’s anything big going on with him. Thanks again for the continued thoughts and prayers! It means more to me than I can express in words. *HUGS* 😀
#MoreBOOMLessGloomWe are never going to get our Kitchen Table episode (or the Kitchen Table half of S4 like we’ve all talked about a million times) and that makes me really sad. They went from one extreme to the other by sacrificing great character development for over plotting and too much action in every single episode and I was having that problem with this show before Neal died two eps ago. This plan might be gaining some of the younger viewers who have the attention spans of doorknobs but they’re hemorrhaging viewers like me who’ve been watching the show for the characters and wanting to see them grow and change over time. I honestly don’t think they can ever go back to that now either. 🙁
Yes. Everything is plot now. They’re not even giving me a well developed villain anymore. She’s pretty much Rumple, Regina, Cora and Pan tied together with a neat little green bow.
No cousin news today but again, no news is good news right now. I’ve been busy the last two nights so I haven’t gotten to really check in on how he’s doing but my aunt would call if there’s anything big going on with him. Thanks again for the continued thoughts and prayers! It means more to me than I can express in words. *HUGS* 😀
*HUGS*
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Ya see, it’s weird, but with each passing day, I keep feeling even more that Neal’s gonna be brought back in the finale. I’ve got my end of season headcanon with the baelfire thing with the time unraveling, and it all plays out so perfectly in my head.
They erase time back to when they all arrived in FTL, exact same shot, everyone looks over at Neal who is all O______O because the last thing he remembers is he died, and Belle gives him a bear hug because he’s back. Then they go over and wreck Philora’s picnic, because they’ve now figured out that they need to break through the floor to get to the Well of Wonders because the OUAT twist is that it’s that specific water that can harm the Wicked Witch, (which is why she had it boarded up in the first place so no one could use it against her). Then up pops Nyx, who happily gives them water to use on Zelena, because she’s been trying to break the laws of magic, and Nyx does not approve. Then she also gives some water to Belle and Neal, telling them that Rumple’s sacrifice in 311 means he’s granted a second chance and a happy ending. So Regina goes to dump water on Zelena at the castle, and Belle and Neal set off for the Vault again. This time they just need to pour the water into the keyhole, which is a lovely little mirror to the last time when it all went wrong, because they were led there by lying FLAMES and the symbol that was BURNED into Neal’s hand was the triangle, which is the alchemical symbol for FIRE, so this time they’re using water which is the total opposite, water extinguishes the harmful effects of fire, which means no nasty side effects this time around. And meanwhile back in NYC, Emma and Walsh are working together on their end to get back to where the others are, or there’s a plan in place to meet in SB again, either works, but the point is that at the very end, Emma and Neal are gonna see each other again and the season will end with an epic TLK.
I mean, it all fits together perfectly in my head. We KNOW that they’re gonna be messing with time because it’s Zelena’s big plan, so, yeah, I just can’t rule it out that at least some part of my crackpot headcanon could happen. It would explain Neal’s promo slogan. It would fit with the “second chances” theme in multiple ways, not only would Neal get a second chance at life, but Rumple gets a second chance too, and they get a second chance to take out Zelena. It would explain why they’re not bothering to dwell on Neal’s death right now, because there’s no point taking up screentime with that when he’s gonna come back eventually anyway, (don’t get me wrong, I will FOREVER be pissed that they’re not bothering to give him the attention he deserves right now, but from a we’ve-got-a-story-to-tell-in-a-restricted-amount-of-time perspective, the writers could justify it to themselves if he’s gonna be back). And it would give their heroine the most fricking EPIC love story of all, that even defied death, and let’s face it, the fricking Saviour should get a love story that defies death. No other love story could ever top that, and Emma “Saviour” Swan deserves to have the most dramatic, overcoming IMPOSSIBLE odds, love story ever.
*sits on corner and waits for the season finale*
Ya see, it’s weird, but with each passing day, I keep feeling even more that Neal’s gonna be brought back in the finale. I’ve got my end of season headcanon with the baelfire thing with the time unraveling, and it all plays out so perfectly in my head
I can see him coming back in the finale for an actual goodbye with Henry and Emma that isn’t so *stupid* as the first one (BITTER). But I’m still hesitant to hope for anything beyond that. I think Adam and Eddy are saving the real goodbye/closure for 322.
They erase time back to when they all arrived in FTL, exact same shot, everyone looks over at Neal who is all O______O because the last thing he remembers is he died, and Belle gives him a bear hug because he’s back. Then they go over and wreck Philora’s picnic, because they’ve now figured out that they need to break through the floor to get to the Well of Wonders because the OUAT twist is that it’s that specific water that can harm the Wicked Witch, (which is why she had it boarded up in the first place so no one could use it against her). Then up pops Nyx, who happily gives them water to use on Zelena, because she’s been trying to break the laws of magic, and Nyx does not approve. Then she also gives some water to Belle and Neal, telling them that Rumple’s sacrifice in 311 means he’s granted a second chance and a happy ending. So Regina goes to dump water on Zelena at the castle, and Belle and Neal set off for the Vault again. This time they just need to pour the water into the keyhole, which is a lovely little mirror to the last time when it all went wrong, because they were led there by lying FLAMES and the symbol that was BURNED into Neal’s hand was the triangle, which is the alchemical symbol for FIRE, so this time they’re using water which is the total opposite, water extinguishes the harmful effects of fire, which means no nasty side effects this time around. And meanwhile back in NYC, Emma and Walsh are working together on their end to get back to where the others are, or there’s a plan in place to meet in SB again, either works, but the point is that at the very end, Emma and Neal are gonna see each other again and the season will end with an epic TLK.
Holy mother—
Ok see. You’re Jane. We’ve been saying this for years, but you are actually Jane.
That makes so much sense. It’s so wonderfully poetic. And I love it. I just…they’re not that creative, are they?
the set pics for 322 don’t match this scenario with Hook and Emma
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Ya see, it’s weird, but with each passing day, I keep feeling even more that Neal’s gonna be brought back in the finale. I’ve got my end of season headcanon with the baelfire thing with the time unraveling, and it all plays out so perfectly in my head. They erase time back to when they all arrived in FTL, exact same shot, everyone looks over at Neal who is all O______O because the last thing he remembers is he died, and Belle gives him a bear hug because he’s back. Then they go over and wreck Philora’s picnic, because they’ve now figured out that they need to break through the floor to get to the Well of Wonders because the OUAT twist is that it’s that specific water that can harm the Wicked Witch, (which is why she had it boarded up in the first place so no one could use it against her). Then up pops Nyx, who happily gives them water to use on Zelena, because she’s been trying to break the laws of magic, and Nyx does not approve. Then she also gives some water to Belle and Neal, telling them that Rumple’s sacrifice in 311 means he’s granted a second chance and a happy ending. So Regina goes to dump water on Zelena at the castle, and Belle and Neal set off for the Vault again. This time they just need to pour the water into the keyhole, which is a lovely little mirror to the last time when it all went wrong, because they were led there by lying FLAMES and the symbol that was BURNED into Neal’s hand was the triangle, which is the alchemical symbol for FIRE, so this time they’re using water which is the total opposite, water extinguishes the harmful effects of fire, which means no nasty side effects this time around. And meanwhile back in NYC, Emma and Walsh are working together on their end to get back to where the others are, or there’s a plan in place to meet in SB again, either works, but the point is that at the very end, Emma and Neal are gonna see each other again and the season will end with an epic TLK. I mean, it all fits together perfectly in my head. We KNOW that they’re gonna be messing with time because it’s Zelena’s big plan, so, yeah, I just can’t rule it out that at least some part of my crackpot headcanon could happen. It would explain Neal’s promo slogan. It would fit with the “second chances” theme in multiple ways, not only would Neal get a second chance at life, but Rumple gets a second chance too, and they get a second chance to take out Zelena. It would explain why they’re not bothering to dwell on Neal’s death right now, because there’s no point taking up screentime with that when he’s gonna come back eventually anyway, (don’t get me wrong, I will FOREVER be pissed that they’re not bothering to give him the attention he deserves right now, but from a we’ve-got-a-story-to-tell-in-a-restricted-amount-of-time perspective, the writers could justify it to themselves if he’s gonna be back). And it would give their heroine the most fricking EPIC love story of all, that even defied death, and let’s face it, the fricking Saviour should get a love story that defies death. No other love story could ever top that, and Emma “Saviour” Swan deserves to have the most dramatic, overcoming IMPOSSIBLE odds, love story ever. *sits on corner and waits for the season finale*
Your head canon almost exactly matches the one that popped into my head this week and that I haven’t been able to shake yet. I’m kind of glad someone else was thinking along the same lines as me because I thought I was just nuts and emotionally desperate for anything. Hey, maybe we still are but at least it’s grounded in a reasonable theory from what we’ve seen all ready, LOL 😉 I still don’t know if these writers are clever enough to pull something like that off (they did do some crazy stuff on Lost though…) but it would make the stuff right now a lot more tolerable in the big picture. Part of me wants to see something like this happen and part of me wants MRJ to stay as far away as possible since the writers are all about the plot now and not character development. He’s too good to be wasted on this show anymore and if they brought him back only to waste him again, I would be LIVID as a fan. (BTW-The only big difference between my scenario and yours is that I have Zelena being erased from the canvas all together when everyone gets transported back to where they were at the start of 3×12 which means Walsh is still the Wizard of Oz because he’s never changed into a flying monkey and Rumple isn’t trapped. In my head canon, Zelena did something magical when Rumple poofed away in 3×11 to prevent the Dark Curse from being broken by his sacrifice and if defeating her resets everything, then Rumple would all ready free from his curse and able to return to the others in the EF. Maybe someday I’ll type out my full head canon but it won’t be this week because I’m way too busy, LOL)
Thanks for the post @Phee. Knowing I’m not the only one with a random head canon like this makes me feel so much less insane, LOL 😉 (Not getting my hopes up, not getting my hopes up, not getting my hopes up…..)
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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Holy mother—
Ok see. You’re Jane. We’ve been saying this for years, but you are actually Jane.
LOL Don’t I wish I had the talents of Jane. Can’t she just write our whole show plz?
As far as the BTS pics, I’m assuming that Zelena succeeds in balefiring Regina’s thread of life all the way back to eliminate her existence, and that’s the AU that those pics are from. Hook was apparently driving a carriage, and no one said they saw anyone inside it, but my money is on it being Queen Zelena’s carriage. And then the good guys basically take what Zelena did with baelfiring Regina, and they turn it around and do the same thing to Zelena, only as far back as the events of 312, so we get the whole do over situation set up. Actually, I should have included Regina in my list of second chances in the previous ep, because when they baelfire Zelena, that undoes her baelfiring of Regina.
Thanks for the post @Phee. Knowing I’m not the only one with a random head canon like this makes me feel so much less insane, LOL (Not getting my hopes up, not getting my hopes up, not getting my hopes up…..)
No worries. Crackpot crazy loves company. 😉
@Phee – Your daydreaming is inspiring. 🙂 Your “head canon” is a beautiful thing. And even if it never did happen, you could write a lovely AU from it.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
See I’m so conflicted about wanting Neal back. I just… after all of this, I don’t know. I would like Neal to maybe come back to say goodbye to Emma and Henry like RG said, but if he did come back for real then that would mean they’ve now fake-killed him twice and put the fans through all this crap for nothing.
Also, who says that if Neal came back, the writers would suddenly start giving him a good story line and a happy ending? They just might keep on doing what they have been for the past season and a half. In a way Neal’s better off you know. At least now the writers can’t put him through even more misery for nothing.
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