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March 7, 2016 at 2:55 pm #318263
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Keymaster[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 7, 2016 at 3:15 pm #318271Bar Farer
ParticipantThis is surprising…
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March 7, 2016 at 6:22 pm #318297WickedRegal
ParticipantThe biggest reason is because Neal and Henry still haven’t gotten closure. I’m not saying they necessarily ever will, but 5×12 was the perfect time for Henry to see his dad again, but that didn’t happen. Also, it seems like Emma is just as in love with Neal as ever as much as he is with her. Just saying. The other thing is that the Neal-Emma scene in 5×12 just emphasized the contrast between their love that the selfish kind of “love” that Hook and Emma have. Maybe I’m just seeing things through shipper-glasses, but whenever we have a scene with Neal, it always seems intentional how unselfish and kind his love is in contrast to Emma/Hook’s unhealthy kind of selfish love that imperils them and everyone else. Neal still is looking out for Emma, because he loves her and always will. Neal only ever wished for Emma to be happy, even if it was without him. That is the purest kind of love there is.
This.
If ABC did inform Adam and Eddy that a full Season 6 would be OUAT Last….what’s stopping them from flipping the entire series on it’s head? They don’t have to worry about losing anymore viewers because the show is ending anyway, they could ignore all the spamming hate on twitter, they could literally do whatever they want.
If that’s the case, I wouldn’t be surprised if Adam and Eddy trade Hook for Neal at the last minute and SwanFire have their happily ever after, since we all know that was the original plan.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
March 7, 2016 at 7:03 pm #318302Rainbow
ParticipantAbout Neal scene:
https://twitter.com/MRaymondJames/status/706926892431970304
This scene was a labor of love for all involved. https://t.co/grYA6jMSBO
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) March 7, 2016
Some snap from Matt M
The most impressive fans are the ones who are big enough to let other fan bases enjoy the occasional win.
— Matt Mitovich (@MattMitovich) March 7, 2016
and article about Neal( sort of hints is a one time scene to say goodbye)
http://tvline.com/2016/03/07/once-upon-a-time-season-5-neal-returns-loves-emma/
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March 7, 2016 at 7:44 pm #318311katsqueak
ParticipantDid anyone else see the Asylum sign under the Revelation Marquee?
March 7, 2016 at 8:46 pm #318329Rainbow
ParticipantIf that’s the case, I wouldn’t be surprised if Adam and Eddy trade Hook for Neal at the last minute and SwanFire have their happily ever after, since we all know that was the original plan.
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I wondered if they wont do a finale a la Titanic.
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March 7, 2016 at 9:51 pm #318350TheWatcher
ParticipantHook’s had 3 centuries of living life in all of its pirate glory. Maybe,once all this blows over, he’ll actually want to move on to the other side.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICMarch 7, 2016 at 10:09 pm #318359hjbau
ParticipantFeel free to skip over this comment, since I know most people will say that this was the last time we’ll ever see Neal again; however, I’m no so certain. Many people also said we’d never see Neal again after 3×22, but then we saw him in 5×12. There are a couple of reasons why I’m speculating about the idea that this might not be the final time we’ll ever see Neal. The biggest reason is because Neal and Henry still haven’t gotten closure. I’m not saying they necessarily ever will, but 5×12 was the perfect time for Henry to see his dad again, but that didn’t happen. Also, it seems like Emma is just as in love with Neal as ever as much as he is with her. Just saying. The other thing is that the Neal-Emma scene in 5×12 just emphasized the contrast between their love that the selfish kind of “love” that Hook and Emma have. Maybe I’m just seeing things through shipper-glasses, but whenever we have a scene with Neal, it always seems intentional how unselfish and kind his love is in contrast to Emma/Hook’s unhealthy kind of selfish love that imperils them and everyone else. Neal still is looking out for Emma, because he loves her and always will. Neal only ever wished for Emma to be happy, even if it was without him. That is the purest kind of love there is. As many people have said, it seems like JMO and Neal especially play their characters that way, with the knowledge that their characters have true love. That is why the emotions and the acting choices seem so authentic and stand in stark contrast with the wooden way Emma quoted her father’s line of saying she’d always find Hook. It seems like Emma has really latched onto the idea of wanting the same kind of death-defying true love that her parents have. Yet, I think we know that the heart-splitting plan is doomed to fail, because Emma and Hook don’t share true love. To quote Neal, “Trust me on this. This won’t end the way you think it will.”
I agree that the way Emma and Neal is played is so good and honest and unselfish compared with her and Hook that it is just ridiculous to consider them both true love. The problem being that most of the relationships on this show are really bad relationships, so i am just not sure how much meaning when can give it. Obviously, the only reason Emma is with Hook is because Neal is dead, but i don’t think the writers get that. I don’t think they see any behavior as different. They don’t get how problematic the relationship between Emma and Hook has been written or they just don’t care.
March 7, 2016 at 10:14 pm #318365nevermore
ParticipantAs many people have said, it seems like JMO and Neal especially play their characters that way, with the knowledge that their characters have true love. That is why the emotions and the acting choices seem so authentic and stand in stark contrast with the wooden way Emma quoted her father’s line of saying she’d always find Hook.
I agree with you. But I also think it’s entirely possible that the writers made that scene deliberately open to interpretation, and that there are several possible ways it can go in the future, depending on show renewal timelines, actors availability etc. But yes, it’s hard not to pay attention to the way JMo and MRJ play Emma and Neal, and this incredible sense of tenderness and care that seems there between them. Quite a contrast with Emma/Hook.
March 7, 2016 at 10:15 pm #318366hjbau
ParticipantI don’t think they would lose viewers if they brought Neal back. I think they would regain a lot. I just think at this point they are all in on their nonsense with Hook, so at this point they are not going to switch back to their original vision. At least you can tell when people bring it all up that Adam knows they made a mistake. He will think about this mistake for the rest of his life and it will bother him. I am fine with that.
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