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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • April 1, 2016 at 10:47 am #320625
    thedarkonedearie
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    I also really miss Emma and Gold’s weird mentor-protege thing, which in the era of Hook seems to have gone the way of the Buffalo.

    This relationship I miss.  They are arguably the two most powerful people…and yet they don’t get nearly enough screen time together.  Their dynamic is one of my favorites on the show.

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    April 1, 2016 at 12:09 pm #320626
    PriceofMagic
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    Neal was a big player in Rumple’s and Emma’s characters. Whilst he didn’t need to be onscreen to make them work (season 1, half of season 2), to just ignore him and the effect on them (3B, 4A, 4B and 5A) is a huge disservice to the characters. Even Henry’s character has suffered in that he doesn’t seem bothered that his dad was dead. Neal’s death should’ve been a momentous occasion within the series that had far reaching consequences and coloured the seasons to come, not been forgotten within minutes of the next episode after his death.

    Imagine the storylines we could’ve had post Neal’s death:

    Rumple, after spending so long searching for his so suddenly finds himself aimless and actually shuts down in his grief. Belle would then do her best to help him get out of his spiral of depression that he has fallen into. She would find it hard at times but refuses to give up on him. Other characters could also rally round to support her.

    Emma wouldn’t know how to feel. On the one hand, she and Neal weren’t together so it’s not like her soul has just been torn in half. On the other hand, Neal was a big part of her life, the first man she ever loved so his death makes her feel kind of empty but she thinks she has to carry on and remain strong for Henry.

    Henry would be in a similar boat. He didn’t know Neal that long, so he didn’t necessarily have that bond he would’ve had if Neal had been in his life from day one, but Neal was his dad and he was gone and now Henry didn’t get to spend time with his dad. Henry wouldn’t know how to feel. He wouldn’t feel like his whole world had been torn apart but then he’d feel guilty that he wasn’t feeling like. Seeing how Emma was acting would make him feel that he needed to be strong too but he’d be angry that she didn’t seem to care that Neal was dead. Henry’s emotions would be all over the place.

    Regina and Snowing would do their best to support Henry and Emma, and would even show concern for Rumple and do their best to help Belle out eg run the shop whilst Belle looks after Rumple or even so Belle could just pop out for a coffee just to give her a small break from the emotionally draining ordeal of trying to get Rumple out of his depression but Rumple not responding. Basically the family would pull together to help their loved ones in their time of anguish.

    Hook would be on the fringes not knowing how he can help. He knew Nealfire so would feel sadness at his death but didn’t want to feel like he was imposing on everyone’s grief. He’d perhaps try to genuinely support Emma but would be accused by Henry of trying to take advantage of her grief which would make him back off but then would make Emma wonder why Hook suddenly doesn’t want to have anything to do with her.

    Zelena would be the target of Rumple’s rage. He’s lashing out and holds her responsible for his son’s death so is going after her with the fire of a thousands suns. THe rest of the family would try and sway him from this vengeful path he has fallen into saying that its not what Neal would want.

    Belle would see that Rumple is falling further into darkness because of his despair but would do her best to help him out of it even when it seems like a lost cause. You’d see Belle perhaps starting to want out but then feeling guilty for thinking that because she loves Rumple and wants to help him but doesn’t know how.

    All magic comes with a price!

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    April 1, 2016 at 12:35 pm #320628
    Marty McFly
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    That sounds very nice, POM, but of course, it was Hook who pushed Zelena to use Neal to ressurrect Rumple. He wanted Neal dead so he could push himself on Emma. It all happened behind the scenes, of course, in that missing year.

    Zelena knew Rumple was powerful and she wouldn’t DARE kill his son unless she was SURE that he will give up his dagger for the child. Hook saw him sacrifice for Bae and assured Zelena that he WILL sacrifice the dagger, and she can have him as her slave.

    Hook got two wonderful things that he always wanted. Love, AND revenge. Emma will now be his, and he will watch from the sidelines how Zelena tortures Rumple in a cage and how Rumple grieves for the person he loved most. Just like Hook grieved for Milah.

    It’s the only thing that makes sense. Therefore, it is my headcanon. And this is why I GET SO SCARED WHEN they involve Hook in things. Because I know he is a time bomb and he really shouldn’t know everything because he will hurt them with that knowledge.

    April 1, 2016 at 7:47 pm #320646
    RumplesGirl
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    but I’m actually in film school right now (I moved across the country to get a MA in Film and TV Production)

    I don’t think you ever told us! Congrats. You’ll have to keep us updated 🙂

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 1, 2016 at 7:58 pm #320649
    Jiminy’s Journal
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    That sounds very nice, POM, but of course, it was Hook who pushed Zelena to use Neal to ressurrect Rumple. He wanted Neal dead so he could push himself on Emma. It all happened behind the scenes, of course, in that missing year.

    Zelena knew Rumple was powerful and she wouldn’t DARE kill his son unless she was SURE that he will give up his dagger for the child. Hook saw him sacrifice for Bae and assured Zelena that he WILL sacrifice the dagger, and she can have him as her slave.

    Hook got two wonderful things that he always wanted. Love, AND revenge. Emma will now be his, and he will watch from the sidelines how Zelena tortures Rumple in a cage and how Rumple grieves for the person he loved most. Just like Hook grieved for Milah.

    It’s the only thing that makes sense. Therefore, it is my headcanon. And this is why I GET SO SCARED WHEN they involve Hook in things. Because I know he is a time bomb and he really shouldn’t know everything because he will hurt them with that knowledge.

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    It’s PLAUSIBLE headcanon, too. That’s the thing.

    I hate Hook.

    April 1, 2016 at 8:40 pm #320650
    Slurpeez
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    THIS!

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    April 1, 2016 at 8:42 pm #320651
    RumplesGirl
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    THIS!

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    Yes. Very much that.

    That line, “that’s why you’ll always be an orphan” was beyond the pale. I mean, for me, everything Hook has done is beyond the pale, but that line. THAT LINE. That’s too far.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 1, 2016 at 8:50 pm #320652
    ouatrandothoughts
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    ouatrandothoughts wrote:

    but I’m actually in film school right now (I moved across the country to get a MA in Film and TV Production)

    I don’t think you ever told us! Congrats. You’ll have to keep us updated :)

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    I moved out here (Connecticut from Washington State, so…far) about seven months ago. My Masters program is only a year long, so things are moving at a brisk pace. It’s been interesting, though. I understand the film industry so much better than I did when I started. I can appreciate some of Once’s limitations, in a weird way, even if I can’t forgive the awful audience/executive meddling.

    "Death cannot stop true love...it can only delay it awhile."

    April 1, 2016 at 9:50 pm #320657
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    . I can appreciate some of Once’s limitations, in a weird way, even if I can’t forgive the awful audience/executive meddling.

    I would LOVE for you to elaborate on this. Or at least tell us how your perspective has changed with your new education.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 2, 2016 at 2:14 am #320664
    Bar Farer
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    https://www.tumblr.com/nettlestonenell/142015562317/swanfire-as-ouats-fallen-fairytale

    "All your questions are pointless"

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