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What if that’s why no one would keep Emma, weird accidents kept happening around her that freaked out foster families????
I could totally see that happening!
As for the 312 speculation, I like that the dream catcher could actually spark some memories. There wasn’t magic yet in SB when she touched the book and got flashes of memory, so are we sure that touching the dream catcher couldn’t do the same thing, even in the land without magic? Maybe because the dream catcher has a hole torn in it, it won’t work properly? Maybe she’ll hold it and it’ll sorta flash, like it’s trying to do the thing that happened with Pongo, but it can’t connect properly because of the hole? Or maybe it would work, but would only show her memories that belong to Neal, which means she still has to drink the potion to get her own memories back?
[adrotate group="5"]Phee wrote: As for the 312 speculation, I like that the dream catcher could actually spark some memories. There wasn’t magic yet in SB when she touched the book and got flashes of memory, so are we sure that touching the dream catcher couldn’t do the same thing, even in the land without magic? Maybe because the dream catcher has a hole torn in it, it won’t work properly? Maybe she’ll hold it and it’ll sorta flash, like it’s trying to do the thing that happened with Pongo, but it can’t connect properly because of the hole? Or maybe it would work, but would only show her memories that belong to Neal, which means she still has to drink the potion to get her own memories back?
Good point about Emma touching the storybook and then suddenly believing that all the stories in it were true. However, that event had to be accompanied by Henry’s asymptomatic “death” which had no rational explanation.That is why I keep going back to what Adam said about first Emma has to believe before she can see magic. For example, Emma’s lack of belief prevented her from seeing August’s leg turn back into wood. I sort of think Emma must first witness something that wouldn’t otherwise be explainable (e.g. how there could exist a photograph of Neal and Henry since she thinks Neal doesn’t even know about having a son). So, perhaps a photograph of Neal and Henry is what makes Emma think something supernatural is going on and then she touches the dreamcatcher and sees a vision of meeting Neal in for a second time in Manhattan. That way she starts to think that maybe she did forget something major, so she then goes to Hook and drinks the potion in good faith, which is what completely restores her memories.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
So, perhaps a photograph of Neal and Henry is what makes Emma think something supernatural is going on and then she touches the dreamcatcher and sees a vision of meeting Neal in for a second time in Manhattan. That way she starts to think that maybe she did forget something major, so she then goes to Hook and drinks the potion in good faith, which is what completely restores her memories.
Pretty much my entire headcanon for 312
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Well now I’m worried again.
I was convinced that A and E would be writing 317 and that it would be the big death. But they aren’t writing it and it’s an obvious Hook centric. Either they passes off the big death to another writer or 318 is an A and E episode and the death (but not Hook) OR the death is in 322 and whoever has that centric dies
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl wrote: I was convinced that A and E would be writing 317 and that it would be the big death. But they aren’t writing it and it’s an obvious Hook centric. Either they passes off the big death to another writer or 318 is an A and E episode and the death (but not Hook) OR the death is in 322 and whoever has that centric dies
I’m not worried. First of all, Cora had exactly two character centric episodes in S2 and died in the second one “The Miller’s Daughter” which was written by Jane Espensen (not Adam and Eddy). Next, it’d be pretty fitting for David Goodman to write Hook’s final episode, because he wrote the first episode that Hook ever appeared in: “The Crocodile.” I think Adam and Eddy would trust David to handle the final farewell for Hook. David Goodman isn’t *just* a writer; he’s also listed in the credits as a co-executive producer. So he probably has just as much creative decision making power as Adam and Eddy.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Next, it’d be pretty fitting for David Goodman to write Hook’s final episode, because he wrote the first episode that Hook ever appeared in: “The Crocodile.” I think Adam and Eddy would trust David to handle the final farewell for Hook. David Goodman isn’t *just* a writer; he’s also listed in the credits as a co-executive producer. So he probably has just as much creative decision making power as Adam and Eddy.
That’s a really good point. Ok. Better now.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"While I don’t want anyone to die, if I had to predict which character would based on a story-driven perspective, I’d say Hook. He wants to be viewed as a man of honor and to recapture the good form he lost. He turned his ship around, not just for Emma, but in part, to show himself that he could change, as he told Baelfire he could in 2×22. A Hook-centric episode in which he remembers his own father and in which he remembers how he hurt young Baelfire could be his true redemption. Hook showing his son figure, Neal, that he can do right by helping him reunite with Emma and Henry would be noble. Hook’s motto was “believe a pirate can be a hero” and perhaps the way he’ll achieve that is by helping Neal get his second chance at a family. Also, Ariel is supposed to appear in 3×17. Over in the title thread, I suggested that maybe Ariel will befriend Hook in the EF or in SB and teach him what it means to put friends first, even ahead of love interests. Ariel gave up a chance to be with Eric the first time to save Snow White. Perhaps Hook will learn how to put the happiness of his good friend Neal first and stop vying for the same woman.
ETA: The title “The Jolly Roger” also has interesting connotations. It could be a double entendre: in addition to the fact that it’s the name of Hook’s ship, the sign of jolly roger is a skull and crossbones: the symbol of death. That is why you see the symbol on bottles of rat poison. Pirates adopted this symbol as a scare-tactic to let other ships know they would bring death upon them.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
ETA: The title “The Jolly Roger” also has interesting connotations. It could be a double entendre: in addition to the fact that it’s the name of Hook’s ship, the sign of jolly roger is a skull and crossbones: the symbol of death. That is why you see the symbol on bottles of rat poison. Pirates adopted this symbol as a scar-tactic to let other ships know they would bring death upon them.
Nicely connected.
If the death is Hook and this is that episode then there could be a lot of paralleling going on from 204 Crocodile and 222 And Staright On till Morning. We know Hook took Henry out on his boat for some reason. What if Hook brings Henry back to Emma/Regina and does it by escaping Wicked. A reverse of how he gave Bae to the Lost Boys. If his death is used to reunite a family, it’s a reverse parallel of how he helped break up a family in 204.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"While I don’t want anyone to die, if I had to predict which character would based on a story-driven perspective, I’d say Hook. He wants to be viewed as a man of honor and to recapture the good form he lost. He turned his ship around, not just for Emma, but in part, to show himself that he could change, as he told Baelfire he could in 2×22. A Hook-centric episode in which he remembers his own father and in which he remembers how he hurt young Baelfire could be his true redemption. Hook showing his son figure, Neal, that he can do right by helping him reunite with Emma and Henry would be noble. Hook’s motto was “believe a pirate can be a hero” and perhaps the way he’ll achieve that is by helping Neal get his second chance at a family. Also, Ariel is supposed to appear in 3×17. Over in the title thread, I suggested that maybe Ariel will befriend Hook in the EF or in SB and teach him what it means to put friends first, even ahead of love interests. Ariel gave up a chance to be with Eric the first time to save Snow White. Perhaps Hook will learn how to put the happiness of his good friend Neal first and stop vying for the same woman.
The title “The Jolly Roger” also has interesting connotations. It could be a double entendre: in addition to the fact that it’s the name of Hook’s ship, the sign of jolly roger is a skull and crossbones: the symbol of death. That is why you see the symbol on bottles of rat poison. Pirates adopted this symbol as a scare-tactic to let other ships know they would bring death upon them.
Slurpeez I love your idea and it would definitely give meaning to Hook’s poster for season 3 “Believe That A Pirate Can Be A Hero
ETA: The title “The Jolly Roger” also has interesting connotations. It could be a double entendre: in addition to the fact that it’s the name of Hook’s ship, the sign of jolly roger is a skull and crossbones: the symbol of death. That is why you see the symbol on bottles of rat poison. Pirates adopted this symbol as a scar-tactic to let other ships know they would bring death upon them.
Nicely connected.
If the death is Hook and this is that episode then there could be a lot of paralleling going on from 204 Crocodile and 222 And Staright On till Morning. We know Hook took Henry out on his boat for some reason. What if Hook brings Henry back to Emma/Regina and does it by escaping Wicked. A reverse of how he gave Bae to the Lost Boys. If his death is used to reunite a family, it’s a reverse parallel of how he helped break up a family in 204.
I have to agree RG it would be a nice parallel to 204
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