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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • March 17, 2014 at 10:12 am #253544
    Phee
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    Does anyone have a screen cap of the figures? I’m sneaking at work and can’t really hunt them down atm.

    Here’s the side by side showing the 2 different figures…

    (BAH, it didn’t auto re-size the pic to fit the page like usual, maybe because of the spoiler tags? Anyway, you can see the full pic in the link RG gave you to compare better.)

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    March 17, 2014 at 10:12 am #253545
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    This occurred to me, but the “Neal has been in Oz as a young boy” theory is dead now. He didn’t know about flying monkeys.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 17, 2014 at 10:28 am #253550
    heatherc1275
    Participant

    I thought last night’s episode was really good and enjoyed watching it but at the same time, I don’t know if I like where it’s going if that makes any sense. It’s like, once I started thinking more about it, I wasn’t sure what to think about where I feel like the story is going overall. It’s an odd feeling but again, I actually did enjoy the episode aside from the severe lack of Neal although HELLO SWORD FIGHTING…..more of that please, LOL 😉

    Re: Random Tumblr Theory: I’ve read a lot of random theories but that one actually makes me hostile because it goes SOOOOOO against what this show has always been about and if they went that direction, I would definitely stop watching because it would make me so upset and angry. Rumple, in any form, wouldn’t sacrifice his son for anything, especially after what he went through trying to find him, and that would be an INSANELY dark story for an 8 PM show (not to mention how badly this would hurt Emma & Henry which I’m not even going to try to put into words because it would just make me cry again). I’m just going to disregard that theory all together and call those people insane for even coming up with it. I feel like I need a shower and a long ugly cry after reading about that theory. Yuck!! 🙁

    Speculation on Episode 3×15: I know we’re all starting to get confused about the photos that JMo and MRJ tweeted a while back from this episode because as the story stands right now, they probably aren’t actually in a scene together unless there’s a whole lot of extra story they’re telling in 3×14 (which I doubt since it’s supposed to be so dark and mainly Charming focused). My thinking about those pics is that Neal and Belle’s journey to find Rumple also starts in this episode and something about it must parallel something going on for Emma and the gang in SB. Maybe the location is something Zelena brought with her from the EF (this fits with Lisa’s theory that SB is now not only it’s own town but part of the EF too) and BelleFire discovers something in the missing year that Emma and the others find in the present day. That means Jen and Mikey wouldn’t necessarily be filming together but if they intersperse scenes, then maybe they would both be needed on the same day to find whatever in that farm area. The only thing that throws me off is the clothes but maybe Mikey and EdR changed clothes before they filmed their scenes. I don’t know. I’m not sure what to think of those pics anymore because the story doesn’t seem to fit as of right now. Argh, LOL

    Re the cloaked figure: I only saw one cloaked figure in the promo and it appeared to be in the EF so I don’t think it’s Neal (I actually think it’s Rumple based off some screenshots that were posted on Tumblr last night). Neal and Belle haven’t gone off on their adventure yet (I think that happens in 3×15) so why would he be lurking around in a cloak in either location at this point? That doesn’t make sense to me. Count me as another who still thinks he’s been captured and is being held somewhere against his will. No way would Neal be hiding out somewhere and not trying to get to his family if he’s I the same town as them and walking around freely like that. It will be interesting to see who that cloaked figure ends up being in the next episode but I’m still betting on Rumple.

    Random: I saw a theory last night on Tumlbr that someone posted where they think Neal actually becomes the Wizard of Oz and the more I think about it, the more I really like it. We haven’t seen any spoiler things for casting the Wizard so it could easily be a regular cast member and a conman/thief type of person definitely fits the bill for the Wizard character. There’s a lot of ways that this could go but I really like this idea (much more than the flying monkey man idea, LOL) and it would allow him to not only still be working for good, but give him some much needed firepower to help the good guys beat the WW in the end if he’s learned some things in Oz. He could also figure out some ways to get a message to Emma that he’s alive and trying to help them (maybe a certain necklace helps get that across to her). I need to think more about how this would work but seriously guys, Neal ends up being the Wizard who helps everyone defeat the big bad this season and probably gets the girl in the end after she sees how heroic he was in helping out? THAT would be amazing and would definitely explain why his story has been kept secret for so long.

    I have never had to spoiler out so much of a post here before so I apologize if that’s really hard to read and seriously, why are there no sword wielding pics of Neal posted here yet??! If there are actually some posted from Tumblr (that I can’t see at work), can some kind person post them using a different server so I can see them???!? 😀 😀 😀 😀


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    March 17, 2014 at 10:48 am #253553
    Phee
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    Heather, the hooded figure that I think is Neal, is in SB. We see their reflection in the mirror on Charming’s truck, and we also see them approach Charming as he’s lying on the ground. The other hooded figure is in the Rapunzel flashbacks, and the costume is different, no belt on that one. I think near the end of 314 we’ll see the hooded figure approaching unconscious Charming in SB, and because we’ve seen the other hooded figure in the Rapunzel flashbacks throughout the ep, they’ll expect the audience to assume that the one approaching Charming in SB is the same person. But then I think they’ll kneel down to check if Charming is OK, and then we’ll see their face, and realise that it’s Neal, who has been hiding in the woods, probably from Zelena, who he’s been onto, which is how he was able to send Hook the message that Emma was needed in SB. Then I think after that, when Charming and Co know that Neal’s alive and in town, he’ll get some modern clothes, and that’s why he was dressed normally in the BTS pics with JMo.

    March 17, 2014 at 11:26 am #253563
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I think the hooded figure in SB = Neal; hooded figure in EF = Rapunzel’s father

    Also, we appear to be missing the GIF of Sword epicness.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 17, 2014 at 11:31 am #253564
    melbell
    Participant

    Just want to pop in and leave this:

    March 17, 2014 at 11:35 am #253565
    heatherc1275
    Participant

    I can’t see those images RG. 🙁 *sigh*

    @RG & @Phee: Is the other image from the Canadian promo? I don’t remember seeing two images in the promo I saw last night but I also haven’t dissected or even watched it a second time yet so I feel like I’m missing something. I only remember one hooded figure. At any rate, part of me would be thrilled to see Neal finally turn up in SB and part of me dreads it because it comes back to the spoiler of doom and giving some people more ammo to turn that on Neal again. The longer SF is kept apart, the more hope I hold onto that he’s not the one for that but if he’s reunited with everyone soon, then I get that pit in my stomach again that I don’t want and it gives me anxiety. Honestly, I really don’t think Neal is the one (story wise it really doesn’t make sense for it to be him) but it’s the constant harassment and bombardment of the opposing sides coming out again that I really don’t want to see anymore. Part of me is really excited at the possibility of seeing what Neal is up to in SB and how the heck he’s been hiding from a magical WW and part of me would rather him be captured or in Oz because that gives me less anxiety about the spoiler of doom. I REALLY wish they hadn’t released that during the hiatus. I would be able to watch the show with a lot more enjoyment (although I am enjoying it for the most part when I don’t let myself think about spoilers).  /end Debbie Downer post

    Mondays suck. 🙁

     


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    March 17, 2014 at 11:35 am #253566
    kfchimera
    Participant

    You know, back before we had any spoilers for this Season3b, some of us just speculated wildly and shippily that maybe 3×14 would be a reunion between SF, as it would parallel Manhattan.

    So now we know a little more about 3×14, I’m going to say what if that is still true, and Emma and Neal meat at the END of the episode, as a cliff-hanger sort of thing.  They’re running around the woods, and looks like something happened to Charming, and the guy looming over Charming is as Phee says, is Neal.  The most powerful thing is blood magic right? What if Zelena uses Rumple to reverse the curse through the Dark One powers, so its a cheat to achieving it as easier to “replicate” the curse just like Regina with the memory potion.  Since Neal is blood related or because he was the secret purpose of the original curse, he is somehow spared losing his memories.  He retains them.  So he uses the method he used with August, summoning a pigeon to go to Hook.  My question though is this: when and how? A pigeon crossing worlds is kind of whack, but a regular real world homing pigeon isn’t so odd.  The one August used could have been just a normal homing pigeon so perhaps Neal knew Zelena’s plan before she did it, and sent the message and vial just before the curse hit (similar to how August was put in the wardrobe before it hit).  The other thing about the hooded figure–maybe it IS August.  What if the curse did reverse his aging thing, and now hes sort of restored?  Originally Gepetto put August in the wardrobe as he worried he’d die if the curse took him to the land without magic, but no one really knew what would happen to him.  They used the word “reboot” and sometimes with computers it is possible to restore lost files even when it seems they are gone.  So if we run with “wooden robot” theory well who knows.  Emma running into August in 3.14 would be a huge surprise, especially if it is intercut with scenes of Neal in the EF.  That could feed into Emma hearing the rest of the story of how Neal left in 3.15 and the reunion could come later.  As I said, in some ways much as I want Emma and Neal to interact, part of me says the later the better because it builds tension and makes it less likely they’ve resolved everything in his storyline.  

    Also, anyone catch the hopeful tone from Henry about asking if the Charmings knew his Dad? He doesn’t say “birth father” but dad, and so even thinking this guy set up his mother and let her rot in jail, that not every guy is going to be like that, its a curiously soft tone he has about the guy.  It wasn’t said in a hostile way but a hopeful way.

    So I don’t think they’re using memory-loss Henry as a plot device to do an end-run around the relationship with Henry and Neal.

    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

    March 17, 2014 at 11:43 am #253570
    lisas
    Participant


    source

    Reposting this because Neal in FairyTale Leathers with Sword is just so HOT


    Keeper of Neal/BaelFire's Blood Magic, Neverland Crossbow, FTL Clothes,Room at Granny’s, Charming & Emma’s Father/Daughter Hugs, Henry's Neverland Crossbow, Rumplestlitskin/Mr.Gold's FTL Walking Stick

    March 17, 2014 at 11:44 am #253571
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    Just want to pop in and leave this:

    OH MY! This is one of the best SF fan-vids I’ve ever seen. Well done, whoever made it! 🙂

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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