Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

[Rainbow]

im coming here as sacred place, because tumblr, twiter is like hell, every day that comes close to sunday and episode 315 is like a dark, hunted place, there is only talk about death, and like is Neal that dies, and even if is not on 315 will be probably on 316. Im trying to give hope to some friends, but things are dificult, i have my hope, not like 100%, because, although our theories are good, we dont know what goes in the mind of A/E, and even if the rumours of 1 unhappy actor was true or not, but so far all my ships have won, the only one that was loosing in my ships, was solve this year and i had to wait many years for it ( logan and veronica- veronica mars), and i have to say that i even ship some couples that everyone thought was impossible, like on dawson creek ( joey and pacey), everyone wanted her with dawson, by she ended with pacey, or in Roswell ( max and liz), so i have hope that this weekend and the other isnt against us. Because A/E would not give a regular cast menber death, especially one so important like Neal, not just bc of his relations but also bc he is an original character, to a writer like Kalinda, although i must admit that 316 writer would be a writer that they could possibly give it, but still, i would think that they would write the death, or in last case give it to Jane, but pretty much all major deaths on the show were written by A/E. Im telling you what i told some friends that simply lost hope, and wish that sunday and  316 show that im right, that the reason why that gave the spoiler when they gave, was bc they would knew  that everyone would think is neal, becuase we wouldnt see MRJ filming, and so every eyes would be on him, and they they could kill another character. I have to tell you something, bc if is Neal, this is the most stupid way of keeping secret, why not simply come and say MRJ leaves the show, bc neal will die, i still think that they are smarter than what they look and they will surprise us, i think they learn some things lately, specially after 311 scenes came out, and showed pan has rumpel father before 308 aired, i think they are using decoys, even with crew help to spread rumours, and using fake scenes and releasing pics from epi that dont make the final cut or will be use in another episode, or showing the media the episode and then air a diferent version of what they showed. I think the death will be on 322, bc like that they can use the actor until the end of season, even if is by actor request, like i saw in Tinkerbelle returns tumblr, this is not like appear on set one day and say he wants to leave, and the writers just say,, ok, so you wont appear much during 3 epi , and they you come back and die, and all is good, no this is not like things are made, this would have to be a decision from S3A, and in that case why make MRj regular, and the same argument is used for story line , if they decided from S2 to S3 why bring MRJ as regular? doesnt make sense, not even going to say that in terms of Story is the most stupid decision, unless they want to destroy the show and have a huge drop on the ratings, bc i think most casual viewers like Neal and wnat to see him have a happy ending.

So HOPE everyone, and lets wish that A/E will show us that they dont do fan service, are writing their story and will going to surprise us.

[kfchimera]

I had the same thought.  Maybe the monkey is the voice Rumple is hearing? Maybe some Monkeys are fighting for freedom, some are enslaved, and this one is trying to communicate.  I too hope it is not Neal, because that is scary!

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[RumplesGirl]

There is one aspect of the Sneak peek that is pretty positive

Emma wants to go back to NYC. Now of course she *wont* in the end because Henry will get his memories back, but she is yearning for that quiet life away from the crazy. Despite having her memories back, she still wants to that dream life she had. Just a mother and her kid, playing video games and eating fruit roll ups. Life is not a series of swashbuckling adventures for Emma, unlike Hook. More confirmation that what Emma really wants his peace and quiet, not to go off sailing and fighting giants, pirates, polar bears and whatever else

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Rainbow]

ok, i saw the sp, and didnt notice at 1st, but after someone pointed in tumblr, waht emma says:  Emma: It was hard. Henry makes it complicated. It’s not just about me. He’s hoping Gold can help bring his memories back.

so my question is , who is HE? is neal, did the meet and he wants to talk with henry? waht do you think?

"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

[RumplesGirl]

I just rewatched. Mick and Rainbow, I think you’re right.

I think Emma says, “he’s hoping.” It must be Neal. This is after the SF reunion and Neal is trying to find Rumple in order to get Henry’s memories back.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

Mickstemp wrote: There’s some confusion as to whether Emma said “He’s” or “Here’s”. After watching the Sneak Peek again it really does sounds like she say’s “He’s hoping Gold can bring his (Henry’s) memories back”. The reason I’m now leaning towards the “He’s” now is because how the scene abruptly started. They could have had a line from Charming something to the effect of “How did Neal take the news about Henry not remembering him/thinking of him in a negative light?” Cut to the “It was hard. Henry makes it complicated it’s not just about me”. Perhaps Neal and Emma end up reuniting early on in the episode and he wants to see Henry. Either Emma is forthright with Henry and introduced him as his father and things didn’t go smoothly with the two. Or he has to stay away/come up with a lie while listening to his son badmouth him. Emma  is probably reluctant about how much Henry can know about him or whether she wants to put Neal through that.

Upon re-watching the sneak peek, that’s how I interrupted it too. That must mean Neal is not the flying monkey. My primary candidate is Little John.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

I agree. Flying Little John Monkey sent to find Rumple by Zelena attacks Charming and Emma and Rumple gets away in the confusion. Monkey John is going against Charming, Zelena realizes Rumple is getting away, so she POOFs him to her side with the dagger

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[heatherc1275]

[quote=256134]I just rewatched. Mick and Rainbow, I think you’re right. I think Emma says, “he’s hoping.” It must be Neal. This is after the SF reunion and Neal is trying to find Rumple in order to get Henry’s memories back. [/quote]

I haven’t watched the sneak peaks in S3B at all (I have read a few things but haven’t watched any of them) because I like enjoying everything in the show as a whole, but I do have a question about this one. If she does say ‘he’ instead of ‘here’s’ in that one quote and the SF reunion does in fact happen earlier in the episode, do you think this negates Neal being the monkey? It could still be him but if he’s all ready met up with Emma earlier, then more than likely he isn’t anywhere near them when the monkey attacks because he probably hasn’t even reunited with his father yet. I’m just thinking the ‘attacking’ monkey could really be Little John trying to get their attention. Maybe LJs death, if that’s what happens when Charming swipes at him, could be what lets them know that the monkeys are still people and if they can find a spell or a way for them to get ahold of their humanity again, they can somehow save them from their monkey fate. Aren’t several other people including like, half of the dwarves still missing? This could be the way everyone figures out how to save those people because one, that spoiler of doom is still lurking and has driven everyone way over bonkers so I doubt there will be other deaths of cast members who have been around since S1, and two, I really don’t think the show will go there in killing off half of Snow’s dwarf posse this year.

I really need this episode to air so I can finally breathe and relax again, LOL 😆

#MoreBOOMLessGloom

[Slurpeez]

@Heather – Yes, I think that would rule out Neal being a flying monkey (unless he can shape-shift).

RumplesGirl wrote: Flying Little John Monkey sent to find Rumple by Zelena attacks Charming and Emma and Rumple gets away in the confusion. Monkey John is going against Charming, Zelena realizes Rumple is getting away, so she POOFs him to her side with the dagger

I still think Monkey Little John isn’t so much attacking them as he is trying to get their attention. I also think that sadly, David may unwitting mortally wound Little John. That would explain the potential funeral scene in 3×16 and why Robin Hood is present at it.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

@slurpeez108

Hadn’t thought of that. I think it depends on how the transformation affects your personality. If it LIttle John in the peek and the transformation into a simian with wings didn’t make him a mindless monster, then I can totally see how he’s trying to say “HELP!!”

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

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