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Everytime I hit post on my phone I’m being whisked to page 2 for some reason… Full of hope and happiness.
yes that’s supposed to happen. It’s because we are over 900 pages.
It’s painful to see…
[adrotate group="5"]But the fucking worst was the line about “I understand you have to sacrifice yourself for the ones you love” F…. that, sorry for the swearing, but SERIOUSLY?! Didn’t he do that when he LET HIMSELF TAKEN BY THE F… SHADOW TO SERVE THE DARLINGS?!
And that time he was willing to give up the only world he knew for the sake of saving his father’s soul. And that time he let go of Emma’s hand over a portal so Henry wouldn’t lose both his bio parents at the same time. Even if they do have a way to undo his death, I’ll never forgive them for allowing that line of dialogue, and I don’t intend to ever watch that scene again. Even if things end up happy and sunshiney for SF in the end, and I re-watch this ep for the nicer moments, I’ll be skipping that scene because that line just makes me irate.
Geez I feel the same… Before that episode aired I wanted to rewatch the few SF nice episodes but now they make no sense. This is just… NO! If you like Neal or not, I don’t think you can honnestly argue that he was a selfless guy, always looking out for others. And that line… No, No, and No! And seriously, I am so sorry for the CSers shippers, please don’t hate me, but Hook gets a pass in a week when he has done things like bullying, but Neal on his “death bed” has to say “I know understand what sacrifices for people you love means” when honnestly, he has always done it?! Am I watching the same show as season 2?
God i am so mad guys and I’m really sorry -_-
And what’s up with the callous, snarky remarks from people in chat today. If their favorite died in a character assassinating way, would they be there all, get over it it’s just a show and move on. I understand that some people didn’t like Neal or just didn’t care one way or another but to belittle our feelings and our thoughts because we cared for this character… I just can’t. And it’s not because Neal is dead. It’s HOW he died. If it was done well with a point, with a real reason, like to save his son or Emma and there really was no other way, I can accept that. But this. For a ******* name!!! Really!?! That’s the only possible way to do it?
Yeah. Or trying to categorize me in what stage I’m in?? WTH. Like “when will RG be back to herself.” Omg.
What if it was YOUR favorite, huh??? What if it was someone you love?? what if this brought up a lot of personal issues???
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I’m going for the night. I’m sorry I got so mad but I want to thank you guys. I’m super proud of this fandom. There was some bullying going around, I’m pretty mad at what happened to MRJ because I’ll never understand people giving s… to actors when they dislike a caracter. That’s just not fair and pretty ugly.
Appart MRJ and the poetic thing that Swanfire was, I’m very proud of us SF shippers, because I think most of us were nice, open minded and… well I never heard of any of us being rude or agressive towards others. I’m proud of our ship and of you guys. You are all amazing. I lurked a lot because the Spoiler got me so down, but I came everyday to hear from you, some of you really made me believe and I ADORE YOU <3 ALL OF YOU FIRE BUDDIES =)
I'm logging off from internet now, gonna put my anger in more positive things I guess.
Love you guys, really <3
And what’s up with the callous, snarky remarks from people in chat today. If their favorite died in a character assassinating way, would they be there all, get over it it’s just a show and move on. I understand that some people didn’t like Neal or just didn’t care one way or another but to belittle our feelings and our thoughts because we cared for this character… I just can’t. And it’s not because Neal is dead. It’s HOW he died. If it was done well with a point, with a real reason, like to save his son or Emma and there really was no other way, I can accept that. But this. For a ******* name!!! Really!?! That’s the only possible way to do it?
Yeah. Or trying to categorize me in what stage I’m in?? WTH. Like “when will RG be back to herself.” Omg. What if it was YOUR favorite, huh??? What if it was someone you love?? what if this brought up a lot of personal issues???
Whoa, that is totally uncalled for RG and I am so sorry you had to go through that in chat. What is wrong with some of the people in this fandom?! *HUGS* 😥
I have been totally unproductive today at work. I don’t know how I haven’t broken down and cried under my desk at this point. I’ve been fighting back tears the whole day. 🙁
#MoreBOOMLessGloomYes, they are categorizing everyone’s stages of grief over Neal in chat. I wasn’t going to comment but it’s callous, as someone who recently as a year ago went through this in real life I know people don’t grieve like that. The stages are okay, but it’s not progressive. You don’t get to acceptance and move on.
Really, the retconny flashbacks in 3×11 was a huge warning sign that canon and development is going out the window.
This is really why I’m primarily a reader. Unless it’s an ongoing series, a book doesn’t change midway through on account of fandom. So glad that is true.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
And what’s up with the callous, snarky remarks from people in chat today. If their favorite died in a character assassinating way, would they be there all, get over it it’s just a show and move on. I understand that some people didn’t like Neal or just didn’t care one way or another but to belittle our feelings and our thoughts because we cared for this character… I just can’t. And it’s not because Neal is dead. It’s HOW he died. If it was done well with a point, with a real reason, like to save his son or Emma and there really was no other way, I can accept that. But this. For a ******* name!!! Really!?! That’s the only possible way to do it?
Yeah. Or trying to categorize me in what stage I’m in?? WTH. Like “when will RG be back to herself.” Omg. What if it was YOUR favorite, huh??? What if it was someone you love?? what if this brought up a lot of personal issues???
That’s what I hate about this fandom. Honnestly I have been in ‘not so friendly’ fandoms. But I think it’s just fair to state some people in the ONCE fandom were pretty hard, loud and aweful. That’s why I’ll never like Hook for instance. Even though I apologize for this statement in THIS place because that’s the ONLY place where the Hook fandom is actually nice. Anyway now I really shut up, ty guys for being again, I’m rambling on this but it makes it better to share the hurt with you all. I wish I had contributed before.
Yes, they are categorizing everyone’s stages of grief over Neal in chat. I wasn’t going to comment but it’s callous, as someone who recently as a year ago went through this in real life I know people don’t grieve like that. The stages are okay, but it’s not progressive. You don’t get to acceptance and move on
I’m so offended by that I can’t even function.
My grief and pain are not for you to analyze.
My dad died almost 7 yrs ago in July. There is none of time table acceptance crap. Don’t ever try to tell me that I’ll get over it.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"If anyone wants to start typing up exactly WHY this death was poorly handled and insulting, that’d be great. I know the general gist, but if I can bring in some of your guy’s perspectives…then it’s not just SAD!RG being SAD
-Neal’s story arc was all about getting a second chance at family, not just romantic love. It was about getting to be a good father to his son. It was about helping Emma and Regina co-parent Henry, together. Emma said Neal would have been a wonderful father, if only he’d gotten the chance.
-No child deserves to have his father taken from him. Henry loved his father but never even got the chance to know him. Not really. They got to spend all of two or three days together, tops. Fathers are undervalued in Western society, but fathers are so vital in the lives of their children, especially to a fatherless boy who is just on the cusp of adulthood. Neal’s role of raising his son and just being there for him would have been monumental in shaping the kind of man Henry will become, how he’ll treat women, and the sort of father Henry himself will one day be.
– No parent ever expects for his son to die before him. Rumple said in 3×4 that Neal is his happy ending. Neal’s death therefore isn’t just about Neal’s lack of happy ending, but also denies his father and son’s lack of full happiness. Neal’s death leaves a huge gaping hole in their lives. Rumple scarified himself to give Neal another chance at happiness, but now Neal will never get to be happy in this life. For Neal just to die like that lessens the significance of Rumple’s sacrifice, because Rumple was trying to save his son. Rumple spent centuries looking for away to find his boy, to tell him he loved him, and that happiness is possible just not with him. Now Rumple is childless and his happy ending taken from him.
– Emma and Neal had true love. Belle confirmed that the swan necklace was only able to travel between worlds because it was born of true love. Neal’s death only underscores Emma’s belief that the price of her being the savior means she doesn’t get what she wants. It proves that true love really isn’t the most powerful form of magic: dark magic is the strongest. Emma’s magic wasn’t able to save Neal; it merely sped up the process of his death. It shows that darkness is more powerful than light magic.
-The loss of Emma’s true love is an utter tragedy and flies in the face of hope. Snow told Emma in 3×6 to have hope that Neal could still be alive, because all happy endings start with hope. Neal’s actual death takes away hope, and therefore the illusive idea of happy endings usually associated with true love. Emma may well find Tallahassee on her own, but her hope is what has been dashed as she’s tragically lost Neal yet again. What she thought she could have as the savior, she can’t actually have.
– Emma said in 3×6 that it would’ve been easier to lose Neal than to go through all the pain they went through before. Yet, not dealing with the past isn’t forward growth; it’s stagnation and burying your head in the sand. And the loss Emma is going through now is going to cause her walls to go back up, perhaps irreversibly if she keeps losing the people she loves, merely because it’s the price of her being the savior. She thinks being the savior means never getting a day off, to enjoy herself, or just to be a mom to her kid.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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