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March 13, 2013 at 1:07 am #179511CrownedWithLaurelsParticipant
This may have been mentioned before, but when I was watching Peter Pan this evening, the opening sequence caught my eye.
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I saw a mention of it in a LOST forum when I googled it after seeing it.
We all know Peter Pan is K&H’s fav. And Emma, Henry, and Neal have all been seen with Geronimo Jackson references. Have we seen anyone else with a Geronimo Jackson reference? I know Clyde Geronimi and Wilfred Jackson directed Cinderella and Alice too (not sure about any others) but I wonder if their intention was a Peter Pan reference. Anyway. Just a little tidbit to chew on, that I’m not so sure we will ever find out 😉 considering any Q’s they get about the band they always say, “but its real!” Lol[adrotate group="5"]Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
March 13, 2013 at 5:38 pm #179665gypsyParticipantSomeone, I think it was Marylou, pointed out a awhile back that one of the Dwarfs was wearing a Geronimo Jackson t – shirt, which I think was just a nod and not a clue, like Neal/Bae, Emma and Henry’s Geronimo Jackson connections.
Also, Geronimo Jackson was supposedly from the Excelsior Distrct in San Francisco…which is heavily associated with Jerry Garcia and the Geateful Dead.
Geronimo Jackson is based on the Dead. Horowitz is a Dead Head 🙂
Geronimo Jackson – switch the G/J. – you get JG= Jerry Garcia.
The Dead wrote a song about the real Neal Cassady’s ‘Magic Trip’ when he drove the ‘Further’ bus to Manhattan and the lyrics reference Neverland.Neal and Emma’s GJ stickers and Henry’s CD is ‘Dharma Lady’, which has Rabbit Jack on it.
GJ is also associated with Alice in Wonderland – there’s a GJ poster with a Wonderland theme.
That’s why I think Neal/Bae and Jefferson know each other (plus there are the clues in Neal’s apartment).April 8, 2013 at 12:37 am #184875DemiletoParticipantThe new TV Line's spoiler alert is up. And apparently it debunks the theory that Bae is Peter Pan:
http://tvline.com/2013/04/07/sarah-chalke-interview-video-how-to-live-with-your-parents-greys-anatomy/They also said that Tamara is non-FTL, so no Robin Hood and Marian's or Fairy Godmother's daughter for her.
April 8, 2013 at 1:23 am #184886CrownedWithLaurelsParticipant@Demileto wrote:
The new TV Line's spoiler alert is up. And apparently it debunks the theory that Bae is Peter Pan:
http://tvline.com/2013/04/07/sarah-chalke-interview-video-how-to-live-with-your-parents-greys-anatomy/They also said that Tamara is non-FTL, so no Robin Hood and Marian's or Fairy Godmother's daughter for her.
“As far as Neal….they said they have seen a lot of theories out there…. probably the Peter Pan one…and they haven’t seen anyone get it right yet.”
To me, I may be holding on to threads here but it doesn’t completely debunk it for me. That was their inference; they didn’t ask K&H specifically about Nealfire Pan, just general theories.
There are just s many clues, so I’m definitely holding out.
We have seen peoples’ inferences in spoilers be completely different than what actually happens.
This makes it seem way less likely, but I’m still holding out hope.I think they definitely have a twist, he could be “one of many” still, just not like we think….or who knows, it’s just hard to even theorize now. Everything we thought we knew has been taken away…
I’d like for him to be the only P.P. due to the deep connection we already have with young Baelfire/likability/clues and hints, but who knows what they have planned. I’m sure it is something amazing since it’s their fav!Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
April 8, 2013 at 1:50 am #184897DemiletoParticipant@CrownedWithLaurels wrote:
@Demileto wrote:
The new TV Line's spoiler alert is up. And apparently it debunks the theory that Bae is Peter Pan:
http://tvline.com/2013/04/07/sarah-chalke-interview-video-how-to-live-with-your-parents-greys-anatomy/They also said that Tamara is non-FTL, so no Robin Hood and Marian's or Fairy Godmother's daughter for her.
“As far as Neal….they said they have seen a lot of theories out there…. probably the Peter Pan one…and they haven’t seen anyone get it right yet.”
To me, I may be holding on to threads here but it doesn’t completely debunk it for me. That was their inference; they didn’t ask K&H specifically about Nealfire Pan, just general theories.
There are just s many clues, so I’m definitely holding out.
We have seen peoples’ inferences in spoilers be completely different than what actually happens.
This makes it seem way less likely, but I’m still holding out hope.I think they definitely have a twist, he could be “one of many” still, just not like we think….or who knows, it’s just hard to even theorize now. Everything we thought we knew has been taken away…
I’d like for him to be the only P.P. due to the deep connection we already have with young Baelfire/likability/clues and hints, but who knows what they have planned. I’m sure it is something amazing since it’s their fav!Oh, I don’t know. They were asked about the Neal = Peter theory in the last Lightning Round, they surely had to have taken that one in consideration when they talked to Ausiello.
April 8, 2013 at 2:21 am #184907CrownedWithLaurelsParticipantNot saying that they don’t know about the theory, just saying that them saying they haven’t seen the right one doesn’t mean we don’t have bits and pieces correct; there are so many different variations of every theory and we don’t know what they’ve heard, so it makes it super hard to theorize, especially now..oh man!
Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
April 8, 2013 at 2:50 am #184921DemiletoParticipant@CrownedWithLaurels wrote:
Not saying that they don’t know about the theory, just saying that them saying they haven’t seen the right one doesn’t mean we don’t have bits and pieces correct; there are so many different variations of every theory and we don’t know what they’ve heard, so it makes it super hard to theorize, especially now..oh man!
Fair enough. 🙂
April 8, 2013 at 3:45 am #184929kfchimeraParticipantWhat if they originally meant to make him Peter Pan too, but are changing that part now that too many fans are expecting it? They mentioned they thought about that with Bae = Henry father, but kept on, but maybe this time they decided to change midstream.
I actually like having a story unfold with clues that lead somewhere instead of things that just drop out of nowhere for no other reason than to make sure no one could possibly have anticipated the twist.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
April 8, 2013 at 4:48 am #184936PheeParticipant@CrownedWithLaurels wrote:
Not saying that they don’t know about the theory, just saying that them saying they haven’t seen the right one doesn’t mean we don’t have bits and pieces correct; there are so many different variations of every theory and we don’t know what they’ve heard, so it makes it super hard to theorize, especially now..oh man!
Fair point, maybe it’s just that they haven’t seen anyone get it completely right, so maybe there’s still a chance he’s Pan, it’s just that no one’s put all the pieces together perfectly yet. Perhaps? Part of me will be gutted if he’s not Pan, but part of me would like being shocked if they have some twist that makes his story even cooler than I’ve imagined.
Just as long as he was at the very least in NL, because I’ve been so looking forward to the podcast where Daniel has to drink coffee.
April 8, 2013 at 11:07 am #184952gypsyParticipantUnless and/or until I hear it directly from Adam or Eddie, I am sticking with Neal=Peter Pan.
It’s all in the way K&H say things – their exact words.
What they say can be so easily misinterpreted.Look how many people thought that Neal was not Pan simply because K&H said we wouldn’t see him this season.
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