I believe Bae is Peter Pan & Henry’s father.

[Phee]

Was just posting in another thread and it led me to thinking of something that was better suited in here. Copying and pasting the bit from the other thread first…

@PriceofMagic wrote:

I don’t know whther or not they will introduce the character of Peter Pan into the series. Hook wanted revenge against Peter for cutting off his hand and throwing it to the crocodile yet in the series Rumple was the one to cut off his hand. If Peter Pan does exist in this show then what is Hook going to have against him?

He could use the kid as motivation for his revenge if said kid was Rumple’s son. If Bae hadn’t existed, Rumple might have let Milah go easier, and she might not have ended up dead. If Bae ends up in Neverland, he’d be a constant reminder to Hook of his lost love and how he lost her. That’s gonna create some animosity. And it wouldn’t be completely removed from the original story, because in the Onceiverse, Hook did lose his hand indirectly because of Bae. Rumple wouldn’t have been on that ship to slice Killian’s hand off if not for being motivated by his love for Bae.

Now the little extra bit I thought of…
If Bae had gone to Neverland, he was there before Hook was. Hook said he was going to Neverland so he could discover how to get his revenge on Rumple. Could he have figured out that Neverland is where Rumple’s son was, and was planning to use him as a weapon in his revenge plot somehow?

[TheGoldenKey]

@Phee wrote:

Was just posting in another thread and it led me to thinking of something that was better suited in here. Copying and pasting the bit from the other thread first…

@PriceofMagic wrote:

I don’t know whther or not they will introduce the character of Peter Pan into the series. Hook wanted revenge against Peter for cutting off his hand and throwing it to the crocodile yet in the series Rumple was the one to cut off his hand. If Peter Pan does exist in this show then what is Hook going to have against him?

He could use the kid as motivation for his revenge if said kid was Rumple’s son. If Bae hadn’t existed, Rumple might have let Milah go easier, and she might not have ended up dead. If Bae ends up in Neverland, he’d be a constant reminder to Hook of his lost love and how he lost her. That’s gonna create some animosity. And it wouldn’t be completely removed from the original story, because in the Onceiverse, Hook did lose his hand indirectly because of Bae. Rumple wouldn’t have been on that ship to slice Killian’s hand off if not for being motivated by his love for Bae.

Now the little extra bit I thought of…
If Bae had gone to Neverland, he was there before Hook was. Hook said he was going to Neverland so he could discover how to get his revenge on Rumple. Could he have figured out that Neverland is where Rumple’s son was, and was planning to use him as a weapon in his revenge plot somehow?

Phee, I think you’re a genius! 😀 😮 Maybe Smee went to Killian because Killian & Milah were also looking for a magic bean. Maybe Milah wanted to find Bae after hearing about Rumple letting him go.

Only thing hanging me up lately is Neal’s age. Can we trust an FBI wanted poster? We saw a newspaper call August a “local boy” at one point and now know that was wrong. I just don’t know?? 😕

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[PanTheMan]

My biggest problem with Neal being Bae/PP is the timing, but your (TheGoldenKey) first post in this thread had me convinced. If Bae went to Neverland first, that would explain the lack of aging. He started aging again when he decided to come to the real world.

I’m still not 100% sold on Neal being Bae/PP, but I would love for the theory to be right.

Neal did wear green throughout the episode. That could be PP.

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@TheGoldenKey wrote:

Phee, I think you’re a genius! 😀 😮 Maybe Smee went to Killian because Killian & Milah were also looking for a magic bean. Maybe Milah wanted to find Bae after hearing about Rumple letting him go.

Thanks, but I’ll hold off on collecting the genius points until we actually see whether I’m right or just delusional. 😆 It’d be nice to think that Milah was looking for Bae. Even if they went to Smee to find a bean, they had to have gotten their knowledge about Neverland from someone else, because Hook had to tell Smee where the bean portal was gonna take them.

[angiebelle]

I don’t like the idea of Bae being Peter very much- and I’m a huge Neverland fan. He was deliberately sent to a land without magic. Neverland is *filled* with magic! Tinker Bell isn’t the only fairy….there is an entire community of fairies- not to mention the magic that keeps everyone from aging. In some versions of Neverland, anything that you make believe becomes real. I think Bae ending up in Neverland would undermine the entire point of the curse- the whole reason Rumple brought everyone to our world! He spent hundreds of years figuring out where Bae went. If he didn’t end up in our world, in our time, why would Rumple have chosen that specific time and place for the curse to send everyone? I don’t think it was random!

Also, K&H did not have the rights to Peter Pan last year, and I imagine that they had already decided what happened to Bae at that point.

That’s not to say I wouldn’t love to see the Peter character- I just don’t see him as being Bae.

[gypsy]

Just because the Blue Fairy said Bae was going to a land without magic, doesn’t mean he went there- first. We all know the BF lies. If Bae/Peter Pan went to Neverland, that would explain his not aging. PP could travel freely between Neverland and our world. If he happened to be in our world when the curse struck, that could have made him be stuck here and start aging. Rumple wrote the curse to take him to where Bae was- at the time of the curse- which was our world.
IDK, for sure, but, it’s plausible 🙂

[angiebelle]

Blue Fairy doesn’t make a habit of lying- she was forced into it by Gepetto and was very uncomfortable with the idea. Why would she lie about a land without magic anyway? What benefit could she possibly get from lying about that?

I don’t think Bae’s personality fits Peter either…Peter is a cocky show off. He battles Hook just for the thrill of it! He has no desire to grow up. He is selfish. I can’t imagine Bae taking on that persona.

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@AngieBelle wrote:

Also, K&H did not have the rights to Peter Pan last year, and I imagine that they had already decided what happened to Bae at that point.

They’d have had Hook’s story decided from early on, I’d imagine. The guy who stole Rumple’s wife being Hook is kind of a big deal, so it wouldn’t have been a last minute decision they only came up with when they were planning season 2. It was pretty safe for them to assume that if the show was a big enough hit to get a second season, their bosses would be willing to fork over the cash to get the rights to the Peter Pan characters. So as long as they didn’t need to address Hook or Peter in season one, they could still safely have planned for the roles they’d play if the show had a future.

So they were able to set up the fact that Rumple’s wife left him, had him very unconvincingly say she was dead, and even threw in the suggestion that Rumple wasn’t Bae’s bio-dad. That all set up that Rumple had been in an unhappy marriage and his wife left him for another man. If the show hadn’t have gone beyond season one, that storyline still would have been sufficient as is, but they got season two and had the chance to expand the story and tell Hook’s role in it.

In a similar way, if they hadn’t have got a season two, they’d still already showed Bae apparently going to our world, which is where Rumple’s curse took everyone, so it was safe for fans to assume that one day they’d have been reunited, so that storyline had a resolution of sorts. But then they got a second season, so have the opportunity to expand that storyline and show that actually, Bae’s first stop wasn’t our world after all, it was Neverland.

[angiebelle]

Eh, still not fond of the idea. The show is getting complicated enough as it is.

[gypsy]

Well, there are waaay too many connections between Neal Cassady and Peter Pan, and I don’t see Neal being Peter Pan without also being Bae….there wouldn’t really be a reason to have Neal be PP unless he was also Bae.
That’s just my opinion.

TheGoldenKey has a pretty convincing theory about Bea/Henry’s father/Peter Pan, and this ties right in with it.

But, I guess we will see 🙂

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