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November 1, 2012 at 3:00 pm #158901PheeParticipant
They do sometimes use fake names in casting calls, but seeing as how this name was from an official press release whatzit, I’m thinking it’s gonna be the character’s actual name.
Just because he’s not calling himself Peter in our world, that doesn’t automatically mean we have to lose all hope that he once was a certain Peter. 😉
[adrotate group="5"]November 1, 2012 at 3:05 pm #158902RumplesGirlKeymasterHmmmm. Interesting. I guess since Neal Cassady was a REAL person, I’m holding out that it’s a very large clue to the characterization of the mystery man instead.
Also, in On the Road, the highly stylized version of Cassady Kerouac writes, Dean Morarity, never does find his father. The final lines of the novel, “I think of Dean Morarity, I even think of Old Dean Morarity, the father we never found…” Bad news for Rumple and Bae? Will we have to wait a long time for Papa and son to be reunited?
Also: love the idea that August is going to be the “Sal Paradise” to Cassady’s “Dean Morarity”"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 1, 2012 at 3:53 pm #158909gypsyParticipantAbout Dean never finding his father, I don’t necessarily think that is reflective of Bae/Rumple’s situation. Dean was a character…if they had named the Mystery Man Dean Moriarty, then, I would think along those lines. But, Neal Cassady being the ‘role model’ for Kerouac’s character is just one small part of the real Neal Cassady.
Neal was also the role model for the character ‘Mac’ in the movie “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”, and while they did nod to that movie on OUAT, the character, Mac doesn’t really have much to do with the Bae/Rumple situation, either.
I believe K&H weren’t pointing at the ‘characters’ associated with Neal Cassady so much as the real person.
I posted before: Neal Cassady was also known for the documentary “Magic Trip” along w/ The Grateful Dead, where Neal drove the ‘Further’ bus from San Fran to NY. He earned the name Cowboy, and The Dead wrote a song about Neal and the trip, “The Other One”. A line in that song: “Cowboy Neal, at the wheel , on the bus to Never Never Land”.
The trip itself ties in with NY.
The bus ties in with the Peter Pan Bus Co. based in NY.The Grateful Dead ties in with the Geronimo Jackson clues- sticker on Emma’s car, CD in Henry’s backpack, sticker on Neal’s phone.
Geronimo Jackson is a fictitious 60’s band, based on The Dead, created by K&H for LOST.They also used the name Dean Moriarty in LOST on (Ben’s) passport, but the use of the name was not reflective of that character’s situation, either.
November 1, 2012 at 5:37 pm #158927RumplesGirlKeymasterI agree with you Gypsy, I do And I got all the LOST references, it was after Ben used the Morarity alias way back when that I picked up On the road for the first time. 🙂
If this is Bae….is it possible he chose the name Neal Cassady for himself? Especially if there are these “Peter Pan” themes and overtures to the real man already? (I’m not willing to give up believing Bae is peter Pan yet…)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 1, 2012 at 6:24 pm #158940gypsyParticipantRumplesGirl…not willing to give up, either! I really believe Bae is Peter Pan 🙂
As far as choosing the name for himself, idk? I would like to know that myself…same with August..who chose that ‘real world’ name …him?
And if Bae(?) and Pino did choose their their names, what made them choose those names imparticular? Especially, Neal Cassady? (as soon as I saw that name, I immediately thought of The Dead- “Cassidy” is one of my favorite songs-yes, it’s spelled diff).Being that you are also a LOSTie, you know how important names were in LOST, as well as OUAT.
Then again, they never really spelled out the ‘hows’ or ‘whys’….the importance of the names seem to be be left up to us to figure out!
November 1, 2012 at 6:38 pm #158942RumplesGirlKeymasterYeah, in the end Damon and Carlton of LOST let us figure a lot of things out ourselves.
For August to have such a full complicated real world name (August Wayne Booth) is so odd. He had to come up with that himself. And since he’s a writer and obviously good with words, there HAD to be some thought behind it (more than just it being the same as “A Wooden Boy”)"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 1, 2012 at 7:53 pm #158953gypsyParticipantLol! I agree…there is much more to AWB’s name than that 🙂
And you’re right about Damon and Carlton…I like that we had to figure some thing’s out for our selves and also that, some thing’s were left to individual interpretation and answered directly…and I won’t be surprised if OUAT is the same way. I love the way Damon put it…LOST definitely should not have had an ‘Architect’ ending lol
November 1, 2012 at 8:20 pm #158961melliemdParticipantI agree as well! The only questions that should be answered are the ones that are actually important to the characters themselves. I was quite pleased with how Lost did that and I’ll be happy if OUAT does the same thing. Sometimes it’s better to leave things open ended too, as the fans can be very vociferous in their disappointment if it doesn’t turn out their way.
November 1, 2012 at 11:18 pm #159029gypsyParticipantMellie – I totally agree 🙂
November 1, 2012 at 11:51 pm #159038faux paxParticipantThis show is too complex for me to be satisfyed if they leave us hanging. In Terriers it was both unintentional and pretty strait forward; the characters either did one thing or the other. With OUAT i think there would be too many lose ends for us not to scream.
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