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This show is too complex for me to be satisfyed if they leave us hanging. In Terriers it was both unintentional and pretty strait forward; the characters either did one thing or the other. With OUAT i think there would be too many lose ends for us not to scream.
[adrotate group="5"]I don’t want to burst anyone’s bubble about Neal being Bae and/or Peter Pan, but I’m pretty sure recent OUAT naming “logic” points to him being Jack from Jack & The Beanstalk,. Follow me on this for a minute or two…
Dr. Whale gets his name from James Whale who directed the 1931 Frankenstein movie.
(The real) Neal Cassady was the inspiration behind the character Dean Moriarty in “On The Road” by Jack Kerouac, yes, but also other characters in several other works by Jack Kerouac (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Cassady#Literary_appearances), so the Neal Cassady in OUAT could very well be Jack.Why Jack makes sense
Well, there’s the obvious tie in to this episode’s Fairytale storyline, along with the fact that the writers said we’d learn the identity of the Mystery Man fairly early on this season. See, we know Bae went to a land without magic, but we shouldn’t assume it was our world. My guess is that Jack stole some more magic beans from the giant, accidentally opened a portal with one and fell into our world. Assuming he was 8-9 years old and did that just before the curse (the BF might not have wanted to mess with giants to get more beans for Rumple when Bae got lost or she didn’t trust Rumple to be in yet another land?), he’d be almost 40 now which looks about right.At some point in the 28-year curse, Gold/Rumple somehow found out about Jack/Neal (maybe Henry’s book…I don’t have that part worked out) and got in touch with him; we know communication outside Storybrooke was possible because Catherine got accepted into a college outside of Storybrooke and Gold had arranged Henry’s adoption even though the agency was outside.. He found out that Neal had a magic bean or two that were stuffed into his pocket when he fell through the portal. But, no magic here made the beans useless until Rumple brought magic to Storybrooke. He probably made a deal with Jack because Jack wants to go home and Rumple wants to find Bae (maybe with beans ad the Magical Compass).
The idea that Neal is Henry’s father could play right into this because Rumple does orchestrate elaborate ruses to get what he wants done.
So, there you have my prediction. Will it be right? I don’t know, but I think it makes the most sense. Plus, now that I think about it, the shot of Neal’s phone falling looked like a long way up and his look could be seen as “Not again!”
Neal Cassady could possibly Jack, but, I still think he’s Bae/PP/Henry’s dad.
I don’t think Gold/Rumple could have found out about Neal Cassay during the 28 yr curse or had contact with him, considering that Rumple didn’t get his memory back until Emma said her name at Granny’s B&B (confirmed by K&H).
It is fun guessing, though 🙂
I think you make some very good point. But I think Emma is going to be standing in for Jack in this case. (It’s also very possible that I refuse to give up the ghost of Bae/Peter Pan/Henry’s day until I see this episode for myself…)
I think the way this show is written it’s much more poetically powerful to make this Bae; he was charming and cute and every bit a fast quick witted talked as Rumple (at least in the preview). There are some Papa/Bae similarities there."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think the way this show is written it’s much more poetically powerful to make this Bae; he was charming and cute and every bit a fast quick witted talked as Rumple (at least in the preview). There are some Papa/Bae similarities there.
He seemed to be all the cute of Rumple without the cowardice or the effect of the Dark One. I’m really glad that Bae didn’t turn into some angst infested overgrown teenager. As much good drama as it could have made for, i wouldn’t like that it cost Bae his innocence.
^yeah. And in the opening scene of “Broken” he seemed to be doing pretty well for himself. Snappy dresser, living in a big city. And he has a bit of a “baby” face.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@Gypsy wrote:
Neal Cassady could possibly Jack, but, I still think he’s Bae/PP/Henry’s dad.
I don’t think Gold/Rumple could have found out about Neal Cassay during the 28 yr curse or had contact with him, considering that Rumple didn’t get his memory back until Emma said her name at Granny’s B&B (confirmed by K&H).
It is fun guessing, though 🙂
Well, a minor twist to my idea is that Rumple had “persuaded” little Jack to climb the beanstalk before the curse to steal more beans, and then my original idea takes place. That would have given Gold a year to find him last season when his memory returned. I just can’t see this guy as Bae or PP. I think Rumple was planning on driving to NY or another meeting place to get a bean from Neal so he could take it back and enchant it into a portal. That’s why he was so mad to find out he couldn’t leave. I mean, if he was just leaving town to reunite with Bae, why bring magic to Storybrooke?
The real poetry in this show is that everytime Rumple thinks he is close to finding Bae, he finds another obstacle. I think we’ll find out that he thought the curse would take him to the land Bae went to but he was wrong.
Since I don’t know where to post this article I’ll just do it here…?
In case it’s in the wrong place I plead the administrators to shift it.
But, well, there is a little paragraph that could either lead to more speculation or to confirmation. Just in case some of you have missed it. 😉TVGuide: Once Upon A Time’s Trip To The Past Helps With Emma’s Giant Predicament
We’ve seen Once Upon a Time travel to many lands, both magical and real world, but this Sunday the ABC fairy tale drama will venture somewhere it’s never gone before: Into Emma’s past!
This week’s Once will travel back to when Emma (Jennifer Morrison) was vulnerable and wide-eyed, attempting to make it on her own as an adult for the first time. “You really get to see the difference of where she was at 10 years ago as opposed to now,” Morrison tells TVGuide.com, explaining that at 18, though damaged, Emma still had hope that life could change after being raised in the foster care system. “By the time we meet her on her 28th birthday in the pilot of Once, she doesn’t really have as much hope that things can change. She’s a little more resigned to the fact that life is always going to be hard and lonely. This show is her journey of rediscovering some of that hope, I think.”
Having lived most of her life on her own, Emma feels invincible at that age, making her way as a common thief to survive. “She feels like she survived so much already by 18,” Morrison says. “You get to see the difference between someone at 18 under those circumstances and then 28 when, at that point, she’s spent time in prison, she’s had a child she didn’t expect. Life has hit her on a whole other level in those next 10 years.”
During Once’s trip to her past, we’ll meet a fellow thief who wants to make an honest woman out of her. It turns out, said thief is Neal Cassady (Michael Raymond-James), the mystery man we saw in the Season 2 premiere outside of Storybrooke. “They were definitely kindred spirits,” Morrison says. “There was a reason that she was so drawn to him and him to her. They had to survive to make life OK. There’s an interesting parallel for them that they both are on their own in this world and have had to find inventive ways to make life OK.”I mean, what do you think about the bolded part? Is Jen giving something away? I think so, wink. 😆
He’s Bae. He HAS TO BE. Whatever else he may be, Peter Pan/Jack/The White Rabbit, He’s Bae.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@CinnamonHummingbird wrote:
Since I don’t know where to post this article I’ll just do it here…?
In case it’s in the wrong place I plead the administrators to shift it.
But, well, there is a little paragraph that could either lead to more speculation or to confirmation. Just in case some of you have missed it. 😉TVGuide: Once Upon A Time’s Trip To The Past Helps With Emma’s Giant Predicament
During Once’s trip to her past, we’ll meet a fellow thief who wants to make an honest woman out of her. It turns out, said thief is Neal Cassady (Michael Raymond-James), the mystery man we saw in the Season 2 premiere outside of Storybrooke. “They were definitely kindred spirits,” Morrison says. “There was a reason that she was so drawn to him and him to her. They had to survive to make life OK. There’s an interesting parallel for them that they both are on their own in this world and have had to find inventive ways to make life OK.”
I mean, what do you think about the bolded part? Is Jen giving something away? I think so, wink. 😆
*impending heart attack*
OH GODS! They were kindred spirits? What do you mean, were? Were, as in, past tense? What the heck happened between you two, after all?
*reads article again and dies*
*drags herself to the keyboard to type her final words*
Neal Cassady is Bae. Has. To. Be.
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