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Far out- twitter is like the Once version of world war!
Just saw & must admit I totally agree with her on every point she makes (it’s Long, but well worth reading 🙂 )
You don’t like Hook? Fine, no one said you have to. I get he’s not for everyone, just like there are characters I like less than I like he and Emma and the Charmings.
But let’s get one thing straight — Emma has never come out and said “Hook, I don’t have feelings for you, please leave me alone” or “Hook, I don’t want you around, please leave.” — in fact she has welcomed his company, sought out his reassurance, missed his presence when he wasn’t around and told him THANK YOU on several occasions for the things he does for her. Sure, she’s told him she isn’t in the mood for bonding…and what did he do? Left her alone. He flirted with her after saving Charming (b/c if you knew anything about his character at all you’d know that he does that to deflect any sort of attention and/or praise b/c he isn’t used to it and doesn’t know how to react to it) and SHE kissed him…and kissed the HELL out of him. There was no forcing. Just two willing participants who have been drawn to and attracted to each other sexually and emotionally for quite some time. You think it made him happy to have to tell her about the depth of his feelings in the Echo Caves? Look at his freaking face, he’s mortified that he has to put her in that situation and he knows he’s going to be rejected but he does it anyway to save the man he thinks Emma wants to be with. But after he saw Emma with Neal and realized it wasn’t the happiest of reunions, he felt pretty confident about winning her heart. And yes, he did tell her he would win her heart, but he said he would do so the honest way (because he was reacting to her calling him a pirate) and that it will be because SHE chooses to be with him, otherwise he doesn’t want it. He’s never forced any kisses on her. He kissed her in NY b/c he thinks they’re true love and he thought their kiss would save her. It’s the EXACT same thing Charming did for Snow. I mean…identical. And he even apologized to her for it. He was trying to save her. This is a fairy tale story. That’s not assault, people. And if you think it is? Make sure you include Charming in that b/c again, same damn thing.
Is Hook perfect? Absolutely not. He’s flawed. Incredibly flawed. The matters of his heart don’t always come out right when he talks about them and sometimes he says them at completely inappropriate times but that’s because the guy wears his heart on his sleeve and the loss of love & fighting for love is his main motivation in life. He knows he and Emma have a connection, he knows she has feelings for him (and she DOES, it’s been confirmed on the show and by the writers dozens of times, just b/c you choose not to see it doesn’t mean it isn’t there). There is nothing wrong with him being persistent and showing her how much he loves her and how she can have the truly happy life she’s always wanted. And he does make her happy. She just needed proof, she needed a reason to let down her walls for him. And he gave that to her.
But let’s get a few facts right…
In S1 when Charming thought Snow didn’t love him (and before he found out about the memory loss and what his father did to her) — he said to Ruby “I don’t care if she doesn’t love me, I will find her and convince her that we belong together” — where is the big rape culture accusations for him?
People love to call Hook a “stalker” for watching Emma outside the diner for 10 seconds while she was at a dinner he was INVITED to — b/c the witch had literally just threatened her life and the life of those she loves. But, what about Snow in S1 who had an affair with a married man and after they broke up, showed up at the diner every morning to see said man when he’s getting coffee for he and his wife, and she also admitted to Emma that she knew when he leaves for and gets off of work, when he picks up his dry cleaning and what nights they order chinese take out. To which Emma straight up called her a stalker. WHERE ARE THE RAPE CULTURE ARGUMENTS AGAINST SNOW?
Or how about Rumple who killed his ex wife b/c she exercised her agency to leave a relationship that made her miserable? Was Milah the greatest person? Nope, she left her son. Did she deserve to be murdered in cold blood for that? I don’t care if Rumple killed her for leaving Bae, he still killed her for choosing to leave.
And then we get to Regina who took Graham’s heart and told him that from this point on he will do whatever she tells him to or she will kill him and then instructs her guards to bring him to her bed chamber immediately after saying so. He had to be dragged there. And then in Storybrooke when he exercised HIS agency to break away from the toxic relationship with her, she murdered him in cold blood. But I guess that’s okay b/c it’s Regina, am I right?
Look, I love ALL of these characters and I understand they’re flawed and make mistakes. I adore Rumple & Regina. But the difference here is, I would never single any of them out and project real life tragedies on to them b/c I’m not getting my way on a TV Show. — I’m from California. I have friends who lost people in that shooting that just happened. And to see you guys USE that as means to further your OUAT/Hook/CS hate agenda is just disgusting.I’m sure this will be reblogged to kingdom come with nasty remarks and I honestly don’t care b/c something needs to change. You have a problem with Hook? Fine. But hold the other characters to those same standards, otherwise your arguments are entirely invalid b/c it’s obvious your bias is clouding your judgement. This show is STILL filled with strong women. The love they’ve found only makes them stronger. Emma rescued herself in the finale, Killian was just there as background support. Regina beat the witch but Robin was just there to keep her heart safe. Just b/c they’re in love with men, doesn’t make their characters any less beautiful or strong or empowered. Even Josh said he loves working on a show where the men take a backseat to these strong amazing women.
Isn’t there enough hate in the world already without you guys twisting something that promotes love and forgiveness and hope and understanding into something nasty because it’s not playing out exactly like you want it to? Don’t you realize that by hounding the writers to change things b/c they aren’t going your way that you’re promoting the same type of culture you claim to hate? Imagine the difference you could make if you spent that energy on things that will actually make a difference in the world. And that’s all I have to say. It’s a shame we can’t all enjoy this lovely story together, it really is.
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& Love the pics POM- Thanks 🙂
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But the difference here is, I would never single any of them out and project real life tragedies on to them b/c I’m not getting my way on a TV Show. — I’m from California. I have friends who lost people in that shooting that just happened. And to see you guys USE that as means to further your OUAT/Hook/CS hate agenda is just disgusting
And seriously? People did that? That is appalling. To quote: The more I see of the world, the more am I dissatisfied with it.
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
One more quick thing about Milah–she, like Neal, is a character about whom I didn’t have much of an opinion until I reconsidered her story when I started seeing the haters throwing around their misogyny accusations. People keep claiming that Hook “stole” her. Women are not property to be stolen. Women can be kidnapped, assaulted, murdered…but none of that remotely applies to their situation (except for the murdering part by Rumpel). Theft refers to property, not people. That language and accusation are real examples of misogyny.
Also that essay was great–I especially enjoyed the part about how clearly Snow is also a stalker and thereby furthering rape culture…but yeah, I also really enjoy this thread and how reasonable everyone seems to be, even when disagreeing about stuff. And of course the adorable, hot, and/or hilarious gifs and videos don’t hurt either. 😉
Thank you for posting thst essay @surayya. It needed to be said, but unfortunately the people who really need to read it dont care. The author of that peice is right, all that hate would be better served by channelling it toward something more positive (and non -fictional.)
Hook/Milah- Hook reflecting on the new love of his life contrasted with the old love of his life.
I think Hook already knows the difference between Milah and Emma. In Good Form, when Pan offered him passage off the island and he could take someone with him, Emma, he said Emma would never leave her boy. I think if we do see Milah again, she won’t appear in Hook’s story but in Rumple’s.
A day in the fandom would not be complete without some haters spewing hate. I just roll my eyes at these posts, or actually, added some select words to Blacklist on XKit since I don’t even bother reading it.
I think we need to bomb the haters on twitter- or where ever with this little gem- fight hate with making out 😉
Ok totally random question – how do you post gif sets without all the internet speak mumbo jumbo? I can never get it to work…!
You can do it in text mode. What you do is right click on the gif you want to paste here, click “properties” then copy the URL line (if you’re getting the gif from Google, you might have to click view image to get to the Gif on it’s own, not always though.) The code you want should end in a .gif or if it’s a picture jpg or png. You copy that code then click on the image button in the reply box here (the one that says img) paste the Url code and click okay. In the reply box it’ll appear as
url code [/img ] but when you click Submit, it should show up on forum as picture or gif. Hope that helps.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixOn this episode of Real Husbands of Storybrooke:
Robin’s bachelor party doesn’t go exactly as planned.
Haters practice their brand of ugliness to get attention. They rely on baiting other, happier, contented people to feed that insecure need. Responding/defending/enabling gives them twisted validation while trying to drag people down. Misery loves company. Refuse to keep their company. If anything, they are to be pitied, but ultimately…
They don’t matter.
Ignore their butts.
***Always in search of a good flock***
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