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Actually, I read that when it first came out, and sadly, I don’t think it makes one bit of difference how many times the creators and writers say it or it is seen in print. There are those fans who aren’t interested in proof or reason. Those who want to will ignore any proof of Neal’s death being pre-planned and played out script-wise months before viewers knew anything about relationship plans for Emma with anybody, monkey wings or leather clad physique. And they will continue the rallying “pandering” cry.
Those particular fans want to ignore it and prefer living in denial about it because, apparently, it is more important to them to be nasty. They prefer repeating the empty “fan service” accusations, while ironically they think polls, demands and uncivil and classless comments to the writers about bringing Neal back wouldn’t be a case of A&E serving THEIR fandom or pandering to their wishes~ if they were given any credence.
There are always groups of people who blame someone else for what they are guilty of, themselves. (Politicians ring a bell???)
I felt badly for those in grief over the loss of their favorite character. I’ve been there, felt that at moments about other shows. It is a helpless and horrid place to go. But the purposeful, blatant meanness and classless behavior of some who have become champions of vulgar posts and disgusting comments on Tumble and Twitter has cast a very ugly shadow on their attitudes. They’ve become more than pesky. Their ugliness has attempted to become more important than the actual show.
Every storyline is rushed in OUAT. No one gets an over abundance of air time with so many points to be made and story lines to tell. It is a genuine problem working with such a large ensemble cast with so many interesting stories to tell. Plot holes can be gaping. A&E often fall into that pit. And yet I felt there were some very special moments regarding Neal’s death. Some brutal, but still emotional.
I didn’t want Neal to die at all and have repeatedly said it was a cop out from taking the time to tell a much more compelling story about Baelfire. But the way they actually portrayed the death was, I felt, credibly attached to the real story of Baelfire/Neal…his relationship with Rumple and the struggle against predetermined hard wiring to be like his father and grandfather.
It turns out he was quite obsessive impulsive about avoiding the abandonment personality trait they all had and it lead to his death. In “saving” the town to expose Zelena, and using resurrection of the dead Dark One to serve his personal needs about Henry, he fatally and quite sadly condemned himself to the ultimate price of magic of his life.
If he lives through flashbacks or anything other than the new baby’s name or not, his death was planned well before anything hit the TV screen, and viewers’ perusal.
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I would also like to add that he simply loves her. He wants to be around her, he wants to protect her and share adventures and life’s wonderfully simple pleasures (such as dancing) whether she “needs” saved or not. he loves her and sometimes, it is just as simple as that
Agreed 🙂
Actually, I read that when it first came out, and sadly, I don’t think it makes one bit of difference how many times the creators and writers say it or it is seen in print. There are those fans who aren’t interested in proof or reason. Those who want to will ignore any proof of Neal’s death being pre-planned and played out script-wise months before viewers knew anything about relationship plans for Emma with anybody, monkey wings or leather clad physique. And they will continue the rallying “pandering” cry. Those particular fans want to ignore it and prefer living in denial about it because, apparently, it is more important to them to be nasty. They prefer repeating the empty “fan service” accusations, while ironically they think polls, demands and uncivil and classless comments to the writers about bringing Neal back wouldn’t be a case of A&E serving THEIR fandom or pandering to their wishes~ if they were given any credence. There are always groups of people who blame someone else for what they are guilty of, themselves. (Politicians ring a bell???) I felt badly for those in grief over the loss of their favorite character. I’ve been there, felt that at moments about other shows. It is a helpless and horrid place to go. But the purposeful, blatant meanness and classless behavior of some who have become champions of vulgar posts and disgusting comments on Tumble and Twitter has cast a very ugly shadow on their attitudes. They’ve become more than pesky. Their ugliness has attempted to become more important than the actual show. Every storyline is rushed in OUAT. No one gets an over abundance of air time with so many points to be made and story lines to tell. It is a genuine problem working with such a large ensemble cast with so many interesting stories to tell. Plot holes can be gaping. A&E often fall into that pit. And yet I felt there were some very special moments regarding Neal’s death. Some brutal, but still emotional.
Agreed- Adam, Eddy & cast have all explained things to fans through Q&A & interviews on multiple occasions, those who refuse to listen to those who are actually writing the story being told, nor the cast members who actually bring the characters we all know & love to life, are simply choosing to be hateful & spiteful for the sake of causing others injury.
IF people where keeping their “displeasure” of certain events to themselves/their respective fandoms & ships, then fine, I could respect that, we are ALL entitled to our opinions etc. But that’s not often the case, many arent doing this, they are choosing to tag Adam & in some cases, other cast members, in their hate fueled vendetta & therefore it is not their opinion they are discussing, it is attacking those they tag, since they always insist what Adam say’s in response to them is “wrong” or he’s “lying” etc. Then there is those whom seem to enjoy being malicious by targeting other fandoms & ships with hateful material, in an effort to try tear them down or stir them up/ enrage them… it’s that behavior I absolutely abhor & in no way can respect.
Sadly these fans are only going to shot themselves in the feet, by slowly but surely killing any positive feelings many other fans may have had for Neal, which doesn’t help their cause at all.
Thanks for “the Man of Honor” video, surayya! Spot on 🙂
One month. Wow. Tempus fugit.
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Jen is at the Monte Carlo festival. Pics started rolling out today and probably interviews in the coming days. So, there’s a very good chance she’ll be asked a question (s) about Captain Swan by the media. I’ve also created a tag for the event on my tumblr.
Jen is at the Monte Carlo festival. Pics started rolling out today and probably interviews in the coming days. So, there’s a very good chance she’ll be asked a question (s) about Captain Swan by the media. I’ve also created a tag for the event on my tumblr.
thanks for the pics @obisgirl. My gosh, Jen is so beautiful!!!
I love that braid thing she does with her hair. If only the whole cast would go, but airfare is probably really expensive which is why they only send one person each year.
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